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Bajalero
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Don Jorge
are a wonderful fruit. Good to see so much knowledge being shared.
Right now, here in So Cal, the Fuertes are the best, in their prime. But Reeds, Pinkertons and even Hass are great eaters in their prime slots. Give
me the fats!
Many Mexican green skin varities get a bad rap because they are grown and harvested in California in the fall, winter and early spring months, the
rainy season. Where these varieties come from, subtropical Mexico, those months are the dry season. So in California the green skins have a very
noticable watery texture and taste. This is really apparent in our wet, el niņo years.
I planted a few avocados in Guadlaupe. A freeze in February of 1991 killed them. I gave up on that idea.
Lunch today: pheasant-avocado soup. |
Don Jorge : you sound like you know enough about avos that I probably don't need to suggest planting up off the valley floor on the slopes where cold
air can't collect. A good indicator for where a cado will survive is where the native laurel sumac grows ( malosma laurina)
This last freeze a couple of weeks ago killed most of my yearlings ( mostly Hass and Lamb Hass) & the several Pinkertons I have were all scorched
badly as well as the Reeds. The mature Fuertes seemed to have come through suprisingly well and faired better than the mature Hass's.
By the way, has anyone seen any avocado trees for sale from Mulege south??
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One more thing about Calavo that Taco's Dad Myron told me about was the time they caught them putting lead weights in the crates when they were
weighing them empty and then removing the weights before filling the crates with avocados so as to have a pay a lower amount for the poundage to the
grower. I think this was a long time ago though.
Come to think of it the only time I ever got stiffed in my landscaping business was from a fruit buyer/distributor guy. Imagine that.
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Hook
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This is all very interesting about Calavo. I was always under the impression that they were some kind of co-operative set up by the growers
themselves, to facilitate distribution. Doesnt sound like that's what they were at all.
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Taco de Baja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Taco,
Is this the land at the corner of Del Obispo and Avion, up on the knoll? Or is it more towards the Birtcher's area?
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It was at the north end of town on Camino Cap., between J. Serra and Avery.
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Taco de Baja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
This is all very interesting about Calavo. I was always under the impression that they were some kind of co-operative set up by the growers
themselves, to facilitate distribution. Doesnt sound like that's what they were at all. |
It may have started out that way, but now they have shareholders to answer to.
If you want, you can buy some stock too... ....."CVGW" on the NASDAQ.
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http://ucavo.ucr.edu/AvocadoWebSite%20folder/AvocadoWebSite/...
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I have a 20 year old Hass Avocado tree at my home here in San Diego. After the freeze we experianced in January the leaves have all turned brown as
well as many other plants in my yard and neighborhood. The leaves have not fallen after a month now.
Does anyone know if a Avocado Tree will come back with new growth in the spring? Or is it a "gonner"?
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaWarrior
Does anyone know if a Avocado Tree will come back with new growth in the spring? Or is it a "gonner"? |
Is there any green left on the leaves?
Dead leaves can hang on a dead branch for months without dropping, but they will all be brown. A frost-bitten leaf will still have some green left.
You just will probably just have to wait and see. It may bud out in the sping. Many nights with temps in the mid 20's will kill a cado though  How cold did it get at your place?
Most cados can take 28 degrees and above without a problem.
If it is still alive, you should paint the trunk and main branches with white paint to prevent sunburn, since there will be minimal leaves to shade
these areas in the first summer after a frost . A sunburned trunk and branch can kill the tree too.
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BajaWarrior
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There are no green leaves on it but the stems of the leaves are still green, most of them.
It got pretty cold here, not sure on the temp, I was in Baja at the time the freeze occured. We are on the edge of Tecolote Canyon in the Mission Bay
area and it is colder than the surrounding neighborhoods to the east of us that are on the Mesa.
I am hoping for the best come spring, it has been an awesome fruit giver each year.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaWarrior
I have a 20 year old Hass Avocado tree at my home here in San Diego. After the freeze we experianced in January the leaves have all turned brown as
well as many other plants in my yard and neighborhood. The leaves have not fallen after a month now.
Does anyone know if a Avocado Tree will come back with new growth in the spring? Or is it a "gonner"? |
Worst thing you can do is to cut it down . Wait! and do just as TDBaja says. After a freeze , it takes time to show the true extent of the damage.
What's going to happen now is all the leaves that were frozen too long will dry up and fall , the branches will slowly turn brown and become brittle
back to the live portion. You eventually will want to trim off all the dead wood and seal things up and most likely your tree is going to be just
fine. Just make sure when it comes back you protect it from the sun.
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BajaWarrior
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I'll have to be patiant then, thanks for the advice.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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Huell Howser did a TV mag on his show (Backroads, I think) about avacados in SD. A very easy crop to pick because they pull 'em when they're green
and dropping doesn't hurt them.
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I came through Tecate 2 days ago, Feb 15, and the list of "Permitted's and Prohibited's " they gave me in Secondary is unchanged from the previous
with regards to Avos- not permitted in to California, blah, blah.
We had donated our last avos to the hills of TKT on the way to the border so I didn't try to bring them across. But we did receive a lecture for not
claiming the dry cat food and frozen chicken I'd brought from CA and those items were confiscated. oopps
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We had donated our last avos to the hills of TKT on the way to the border so I didn't try to bring them across. But we did receive a lecture for not
claiming the dry cat food and frozen chicken I'd brought from CA and those items were confiscated. oopps
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