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elgatoloco
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Frame & Axle Service of El Cajon is where we took our rig.
Frame & Axle Service of El Cajon
210 Cypress Ln
El Cajon, CA 92020
(619) 444-9439
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Axel
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I agree with Don Jorge, Deaver has always done me right. There is National spring in San Diego but I have never delt with them. I'm sure someone here
has.
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Tomas Tierra
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The "add a leafs" that I have used on previous trucks have been shorter than the other leafs and on the bottom of the stack..Anybody else have that
experience??
Also, broke two Downey add a leafs before going to full size "additional" leafs from RRRRRRRancho..stiff as a brick without the camper on though..
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Tomas Tierra
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Tundra....
Good thread Halboo, I am preparing to do almost the same thing as You...Get my '02 Tundra ready for Baja with a pop up camper..
Anybody done anything with the front end of one of these trucks?? I am not familiar with the coil spring set up at all..I like Neal's advise, but he
has a Tacoma..Same front end set up as Tundra???not sure
I was going to go with gas shocks and airbags, but think I will scratch the airbags and stack the springs. Glad I found out the easy way about the
airbags..
Any advise/comments welcome..(even if you want bag on Toyota :lol
Edit to add photo...
[Edited on 2-16-2007 by Tomas Tierra]
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Halboo
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Anyone raggin on the Toy's probably never had one.
My '86 22R 2WD 4 cyl. took me from the PNW to Rio Nexpa and everywhere in between for 20 years and now belongs to the neighbors kid who will get
another 20 years out of it if he treats it right.
Oh what a feeling 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
...Perhaps you are referring to the bolt-on leafs, which several of us think are "junk"? |
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Barry you are correct!
They were bolt on items-I installed them-matter of fact they are still on the older Toyota PU which I use around town.
And they were are and will always be useless! Total Junk!
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Tomas Tierra
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Yes sir halboo
My first.....
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bajabass
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For the Toyotas, the Donahoe Adjustable Coil-Over front shocks and coils work perfect. I know the folks at Deavers well. They are THE answer in
"Orangeless" county. I have no camper on my 2005 Tundra Access Cab 4WD. The Donahoes allowed me to level the truck and use LT285/75/16 Bridgestone
Dueller A/T Revo tires. With no rear lift the TRD stock bilsteins work great and the truck drives like a Lexus with a bed behind it. If you lift the
rear check the shocks for correct extended and compressed length. If your shocks are to short you will top out. KYB only makes O.E. length shocks for
the Tundras. Use a correct length Bilstein. I am the owner of Accurate Alignment in Orange. Look me up for any help I can provide. This is not an
advertisement.I am in the yellow pages.
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Russ
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I cheeped out and had the local "kinda mechanic" put an extra leaf in the rear of my '02 Exploder and it made a huge difference in handling on the
washboard and hwy. When I got another Exploder an '04 I did the same and it helped some too. I'm not saying this is the way to go. It just worked well
for me. My '96 Power Stroke has air bags and they still work after eleven years.
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Upgrading a '07 Toy Taco
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabass
For the Toyotas, the Donahoe Adjustable Coil-Over front shocks and coils work perfect. I know the folks at Deavers well. They are THE answer in
"Orangeless" county. I have no camper on my 2005 Tundra Access Cab 4WD. The Donahoes allowed me to level the truck and use LT285/75/16 Bridgestone
Dueller A/T Revo tires. With no rear lift the TRD stock bilsteins work great and the truck drives like a Lexus with a bed behind it. If you lift the
rear check the shocks for correct extended and compressed length. If your shocks are to short you will top out. KYB only makes O.E. length shocks for
the Tundras. Use a correct length Bilstein. I am the owner of Accurate Alignment in Orange. Look me up for any help I can provide. This is not an
advertisement.I am in the yellow pages. |
PJC recommended Dohohoe's as well.
http://www.donahoeracing.com/product_results.php?make=Toyota...
Any thoughts on after market products for a stock '07 Taco? Tires? Exhaust? Suspension?
I'm putting a lighter weight shell on top (a longbed) for camping and hauling construction stuff otherwise. Down here, I drive long distances of
heavy duty washboard roads.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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I think the problem with air bags is not using the correct level of inflation for the task at hand. For off-road use, you dont want them too highly or
lowly inflated. Both can cause problems on washboard with lots of weight (like a camper) in the back. Especially in 90+ degrees. I used them on an RV
I had and they worked fine offroad at about 75% of air capacity.
At the time, the Firestones were much better than the Air Lift brand. Dotn know whats out there now.
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Hook
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Just curious but what constitutes a long bed Taco. How long is long in a Taco? Certainly not 8 feet?
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Mexray
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We've got a Ford F-350 4x4 with a 4 inch suspension lift...
...We hung a 3K lbs Lance camper on it, and the 'stock' Ford overload leaves came into play, effectively shortening the length of the rear spring
pack, and the ride was 'bouncy' to say the least! The truck wasn't 'level', front to back, and we also had couple inches of 'lean' to one side...
I put Firestone air bags on it, along with adjustable Rancho shocks. Ride improved greatly, and with air pressure difference could get rid of the
lean...
We can't get too serious, off road with that big camper back there, but we do get into some 'bumpy stuff' from time to time...well, I threw something
a stick into one of the air bags on our first trip and blew out that sucker! Back down onto the stock overloads, and bounced around till I could find
another air bag!
When we got home, I bought a set of those 'SuperSprings' noted above. They come with shackles with several holes for adjusting the mounting height,
which I utilized to take the old 'lean' out of the loaded truck. I was also able to make the ride height level. These added leaves mount right on
top of (and compress) the overload springs - right on top of the complete spring pack.
I haven't been able to use the truck off road yet with the SuperSprings...so don't know if they will hold up or not...it seems OK for now, but the
whole setup appears to be a 'bandaid'...if they hold up, all well and good, but if now, it's back to the drawing board - only this time it will be off
to the spring shop and get a couple leaves built into the stock spring pack - probably the best overall way to go, especially if one was going to keep
the camper installed most of the time!
I have to say here, that if I had it to do over again, I would go directly to the spring shop and get the stock springs reworked...oh well, got to
help keep those aftermarket guys in business...
According to my clock...anytime is \'BAJA TIME\' & as Jimmy Buffett says,
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Tomas Tierra
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Hook
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["Just curious but what constitutes a long bed Taco. How long is long in a Taco? Certainly not 8 feet?']
In the Tundra the bed size is 78.7 inches (6ft 6.7inches) or 97.2 inches (8ft 1.2inches) except for the crewmax which only comes with a 66.7 inch
(5ft 6.7inch) bed.
The Tacoma comes with either a 60.3 in or 73.5 inch bed.
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elgatoloco
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http://www.hellwigproducts.com/
Not all bolt ons are created equal. These guys make a great product with a no hassle warranty.
I have used them on other vehicles and had success.
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Barry A.
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Crazy Cat------
----one of the "bolt-on" springs that failed on my vehicle long ago was a HELWIG. But it did not look like the one in the picture in that "link". So
maybe that one is ok???
Sounding like a die-hard here: To be sure, tho, I would have the spring packs rebuilt, staying away from the "gimmick" springs.
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elgatoloco
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Maybe you abused the product? 
Hellwig has been a pioneer in the business and they have created a line of affordable products that provide solutions for many suspension issues. The
first thing I did when I bought my F-250 in 1999 was replace the factory anti-sway bar with a Hellwig heavy duty one. I also mounted a set of the LP
25 progressive helper springs on my rig because I have a Tommy Gate mounted on it and it helped with the ride when I mounted my Callen camper shell.
If I sound like some low life sales guy, I am guilty as charged, I am actually a WD for Hellwig, since 1984 in fact. I have used the product and had
success. I have had instances where leaves have broken over the years, far fewer in the last decade or so, when that happens they replace the part no
questions no hassles. Having said all that when someone says there are going to be putting a camper on there truck, either full time or part time
(like me) and they can afford it, do what I did and take it to a spring shop and have it set up, like I did, where it rides level empty and it rides
level when the camper is on and loaded for bear or Baja. In the early days I would often talk to the guys at Hellwig about my travels to Baja. One
year they went down and got hooked. They now are regular visitors and have developed a line of toy hauler products partly as a result of hauling their
stuff down there.
Lots of different ways to go.
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Barry A.
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C-Cat------
-----right you are-----lots of ways to "skin a cat"
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elgatoloco
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HEY! I resemble that remark!
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