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Santiago
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Paulina: you're right of course.
We still yell "There's Baja Nana's" as we round the red hill first time coming to camp.
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Bedman
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The Amigos picture was taken 5:01 pm June 30th 2001. I can identify most all the people.
David Eidell moved to Mainland Mexico. I used get a note from him every so often but haven't heard from him in almost a year.
Bedman
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Neal Johns
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I enjoyed the Amigos board because it was the first one I found that was not 'motorhome' oriented. It was fairly easy to stay out of the personal and
political rants. 
and, in person, the people were quite friendly.
My motto:
Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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Skeet/Loreto
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The Amigos Board reflected the "Ole Baja" that we at that time knew.
Most of us had spent lots of time just doing Baja, then as times change, the New Generation came on Board, and as reflection of the times, brought in
the Politics of the time.
The present Culture of California seem to transfer into the experiences of the New Baja Guests, The Druggies, Nudies, could not understand, and still
do not understand the Mexicano, they just seem to think the Mexican should change to their Idea of a Lifestyle. The old aganist the New???
******, ****, ******, ******* *******. etc.
After 35 years in Baja Sur, I could see that many "Ugly Americans" had invaded my Beloved Baja. I chose to Leave as others have done.
On the Board Amigos and Nomads I tried to use my Experiences to help others to enjoy Baja as I knew it. Worked sometimes.
The Attacks on Religion by many reflected the Culture of California- I forgave those Attacks- Not the Stupidy of them.
I beleive that Doug has done a Great Job!
God Bless all of you
Skeet/Loreto
[Edited on 2-24-2007 by Hose A]
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zforbes
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Another question...
I see that the Amigos board closed in 2003, but I am unclear when Amigos started coming together. If someone already mentioned it, I missed it, sorry.
\"You cannot prevent the birds of sadness from passing over your head, but you can prevent them from nesting in your hair.\"
Swedish proverb
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flyfishinPam
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Location: Loreto, BCS
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Earl and Eric started amigos de baja about the same time bajabigfish.com came into existence (1996). It was the dot com era. I met them several
times throughout the Baja and in So Cal, USA and very early on they asked permission to post our fish reports. I liked seeing the message board and
contributed when people had questions about the town I live in (Loreto) if I knew the anwer. I preferred the big thread (like Metcalf has) to the
individual subjects format. When the format changed and you had to make a membership I guess I lost interest. Also one poster put up lots of
unrelated posts and I understand the off topic in nomad was created partly because of this poster and the others it generated. Is this one better?
Apples vs. oranges.
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FARASHA
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THANK YOU Zoe, you came forward with a question that I was too shy to ask myself. Feared to stir a hornet's nest!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by zforbes
That really personalizes the Amigos for me. When was that group picture of taken? Can any of you identify yourselves? You look like a happy lot.
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This was M's first Boojum Buddies Baja Bash (BBBB) party at Cielito Lindo and it coincided with the first stop on the trip in Viva Baja Tours (Amo
Pescar & David K) 4WD van, a week adventure through Baja with friends from Amigos de Baja (David K, El Camote, David Eidell, Debra aka
'travelpearl', Desert Rat, my kids, and joining us most of the way Miguelito Humfreville). Mike and Mary Ann Humfreville followed us in their P.O.T
truck...
It was a great trip, El Camote made a video of the BBBB party and trip... We hoped to set up a 4WD tour business and this was an opportunity for
feedback from friends to work out any details for a future business venture Amo and I hoped to have.
9-11 came and the tour business idea was shelved... But, we had three van trips and the photos are in my web site...
http://vivabaja.com/van1 (BBBB-1, Tinaja de Yubay, L.A. Bay and Lost Mission Hunt, Gonzaga Bay)
http://vivabaja.com/cabras (Punta Cabras trip)
http://vivabaja/bbbb2 (BBBB-2 at Guadalupe Canyon)
In the photo are so many of us! I am in the center holding the corner of the big sign... Paulina is on one side of me and jeans is on the other.. in
front in cammies is my son, Chris...
[Edited on 2-24-2007 by David K]
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by zforbes
That really personalizes the Amigos for me. When was that group picture of taken? Can any of you identify yourselves? You look like a happy lot.
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This was M's first Boojum Buddies Baja Bash (BBBB) party at Cielito Lindo and it coincided with the first stop on the trip in Viva Baja Tours (Amo
Pescar & David K) 4WD van, a week adventure through Baja with friends from Amigos de Baja (David K, El Camote, David Eidell, Debra aka
'travelpearl', Desert Rat, my kids, and joining us most of the way Miguelito Humfreville). Mike and Mary Ann Humfreville followed us in their P.O.T
truck...
It was a great trip, El Camote made a video of the BBBB party and trip... We hoped to set up a 4WD tour business and this was an opportunity for
feedback from friends to work out any details for a future business venture Amo and I hoped to have.
9-11 came and the tour business idea was shelved... But, we had three van trips and the photos are in my web site...
http://vivabaja.com/van1 (BBBB-1, Tinaja de Yubay, L.A. Bay and Lost Mission Hunt, Gonzaga Bay)
http://vivabaja.com/cabras (Punta Cabras trip)
http://vivabaja/bbbb2 (BBBB-2 at Guadalupe Canyon)
In the photo are so many of us! I am in the center holding the corner of the big sign... Paulina is on one side of me and jeans is on the other.. in
front in cammies is my son, Chris...
[Edited on 2-24-2007 by David K] |
DK-
Was that trip in July? If so, I stopped by to say hello in the morning on my way to see Pancho and then on to Bahia Tortugas. It rained most of the
week for us but was still a great trip.
Zac
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BajaNomad
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In late '94 / early '95 about the only way to get information in this new fledgling (sp?) medium of the Internet in regards to Baja California was
through USENET - a bulletin board "of sorts" defined by specific topic area. Baja was a topic for a number of the travel areas.
There was no website with Baja California info at the time - at least one that was in English and well-known in any sense.
There was a professor at UC Riverside, Fred Metcalf, who had something called an "FTP" site with text-files having information you could download and
read - meant for travelers.
Fred's FTP site at the time was called the "Baja California Travel Information Files" and located (I believe) at:
ftp://ucrmath.ucr.edu/ftm/baja.calif/
Fred later expanded this to a website - and created the bulletin board he currently has (I've forgotten exactly when this transition took place). You
can read more about how Fred came about to first post the FTP, then HTTP sites here:
http://math.ucr.edu/ftm/bajaPages/About.html
Side note: although the domain names "baja.com" & "baja.net" (etc) were already registered/reserved by others ahead of this, there was little to
no original content on those sites at the time - they were awaiting what was later to come for them and the directions they've now taken.
I was active on USENET myself about this time. Very active. But with Fred's inspiration with this "website stuff" I saw that as the way to go in
even answering questions for people - and if nobody else was doing this, well, then I needed just go ahead and do it myself somehow. Somewhere in
there at almost the exact same time, I think the Robitaille's had a similar idea (and in the same city none-the-less, as I lived in Huntington Beach
at the time). With their fishing interests, they created THE BEST place to go online for fishing information from Baja. The original site was
located here beginning in 1995:
http://www.geocities.com/TheTropics/4888/
Earle announced this "new" site on USENET (rec.outdoors.fishing.saltwater) in June of '96:
http://tinyurl.com/ywursz
Somewhere along the way I was experimenting with FrontPage software from Microsoft - which included bulletin board software - and at a Fred Hall
Fishing show in Long Beach one year had a discussion with Eric about it - details of this I do not remember however - but somehow recollect Eric
shortly thereafter using the FrontPage software for their bulletin board.
I played with this bulletin board software myself here:
http://bb.escapist.com/baja
Frankly, I did not at all like all the work it took to maintain a bulletin board that used the FrontPage software (this new forum software is
super-easy in comparison) - and I really had to hand it to Trish and Eric for all the work they put in to keep the Amigos bulletin board areas
somewhat organized and available for as long as they did - and archiving them, etc.
Here's what their bulletin board looked like for much of the time it was active:
http://tinyurl.com/2e5e6v
By 2003, they had updated the look of the site, and updated to the more current forum-type software. The front of the site in 2003 appeared as such:
http://tinyurl.com/yqraw8
And the forums in 2003:
http://tinyurl.com/ynvgkd
Unfortunately, from what I know - due to a number of personal reasons - the Robitailles retired the site. Visitors were greeted with a message on the
forums along these lines:
http://tinyurl.com/2fng88
..and later with a different error message until the site hosting and domain name expired.
There was a lot of work involved in getting the information they did out of Baja and regularly onto the Web - as well as maintaining such a busy site
as they did... and the expense involved of doing so.
Let me tell you - the hard costs (computer processing, hard drives, RAM, bandwidth) of hosting such an active website today are MUCH LOWER than they
were when the Robitailles were doing it. They gave a lot of themselves, and I certainly wish to recognize how much they gave to the community. My
thank you page from 2003 doesn't nearly say enough:
http://www.bajanomad.com/bajanet
More information was written about the site - and the Amigos de Baja - by Marla Jo Fisher here:
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4191/is_20020616...
Regards,
--
Doug Means
[Edited on 2-25-2007 by BajaNomad]
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
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We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
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Baja Bernie
`Normal` Nomad Correspondent
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Registered: 8-31-2003
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Doug, you are a truly nice man!
And I am proud to know you.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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Skipjack Joe
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Marla Fisher wrote:
<<The site gets about 2.5 million hits per month from as far away as Australia and New Zealand, though the vast majority of regular readers are
from Southern California and Arizona.>>
That's about 100,000 reads a day. I'm surprised that Amigos couldn't have been more financially successful with that amount of traffic.
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David K
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Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by zforbes
That really personalizes the Amigos for me. When was that group picture of taken? Can any of you identify yourselves? You look like a happy lot.
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This was M's first Boojum Buddies Baja Bash (BBBB) party at Cielito Lindo and it coincided with the first stop on the trip in Viva Baja Tours (Amo
Pescar & David K) 4WD van, a week adventure through Baja with friends from Amigos de Baja (David K, El Camote, David Eidell, Debra aka
'travelpearl', Desert Rat, my kids, and joining us most of the way Miguelito Humfreville). Mike and Mary Ann Humfreville followed us in their P.O.T
truck...
It was a great trip, El Camote made a video of the BBBB party and trip... We hoped to set up a 4WD tour business and this was an opportunity for
feedback from friends to work out any details for a future business venture Amo and I hoped to have.
9-11 came and the tour business idea was shelved... But, we had three van trips and the photos are in my web site...
http://vivabaja.com/van1 (BBBB-1, Tinaja de Yubay, L.A. Bay and Lost Mission Hunt, Gonzaga Bay)
http://vivabaja.com/cabras (Punta Cabras trip)
http://vivabaja/bbbb2 (BBBB-2 at Guadalupe Canyon)
In the photo are so many of us! I am in the center holding the corner of the big sign... Paulina is on one side of me and jeans is on the other.. in
front in cammies is my son, Chris...
[Edited on 2-24-2007 by David K] |
DK-
Was that trip in July? If so, I stopped by to say hello in the morning on my way to see Pancho and then on to Bahia Tortugas. It rained most of the
week for us but was still a great trip.
Zac |
YES ZAC, that was the last days of June, first days of July... Your trip photos (from that 2001 trip) are still hosted on my site, by the way! They
are great pictures.. have a look everyone!: http://www.vivabaja.com/zac_pics/index.html
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David K
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Some more photos of the Amigos de Baja hosts
OCT. 2000 (My Viva Baja #1)
FEB. 2003 (My Viva Baja #4)
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jeans
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Thanks, Doug
Thanks for the trip down memory lane with the glimpse of the circa 1998 Amigos board.
My first post ever was about 3 months prior to that time period. I had just purchased my first 4WD in 22 years and was looking for Baja friends. I
had signed up for a San Diego Natural History Museum trip to Tajo Canyon and had posted a question about the area.
My only response was from Neal Johns, trying to lure me to his group, Desert Explorers...
The first time any of us met in person was Feb. 2000 at Discover Baja Travel Club for a Graham Macintosh presentation. I had suggested that we meet
for pizza before the talk.
Mom always told me to be different - Now she says...Not THAT different
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Santiago
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jeans
My only response was from Neal Johns, trying to lure me to his group |
You can't change a leopard's spots.......
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Bajame
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Oh those were the days! What fun! Just glad we have a great board to continue our internet gatherings with the Baja we love!
We all want a peaceful world, filled with love and laughter, but we fill ourselves with anger and hate trying to fiqure out how to achive it.
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thebajarunner
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 3718
Registered: 9-8-2003
Location: Arizona....."Free at last from crumbling Cali
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Back in '03 I heard about Amigos, went there, liked it, made a post, and it did not appear.
Scratched my head for a couple days, kept checking, nada!
Same guy that told me about it said "I hear they went out of business two days ago" and sure enough, they had.
So, I have often wondered,
Was it my post that sent Amigos into never-never land?
Just wondering.
It may have been the last one sent in >>> or the first one lapsed.
Quien sabe??
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Minnow
Banned
Posts: 1110
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: Lost Wages
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Mood: Embarrased Harry Reid is a Nevadan
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Bajaboy Zac, and myself are the only two posters left from the original page of Amigo's, since Mike H died. I agree with hooks response. Lots of
great fishing stories then, as Earl was a fisherman and took time with the fish reports. There seemed to be a much freer exchange of knowledge then.
Here on nomad people log on for the first time and start posting like crazy even though they have limited baja experience. They comment on
everything. Oh well things change.
DK and his crew came along and changed things a bit around 1999. David will always be a newbie to me. At the time I thought it was a good thing, and
even went to a couple of their get togethers, until I realized that most of these folks were a couple of generations removed from myself and our baja
interests were not really the same. Oh well!
There is still plenty of good information here, and for the record, I MISS JR! RIP buddy.
Proud husband of a legal immigrant.
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baitcast
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Location: kingman AZ.
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JR
Haven,t seen any mention of old JR,who I enjoyed very much,loved the way he would get some folks all worked up
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