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[*] posted on 4-27-2007 at 09:00 PM













Igor, hope these inspire you...

Nena, show us your Mulege caves!:yes:

There are more pictures on the "la sierra san francisco thread by paula.




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[*] posted on 4-27-2007 at 10:31 PM


They do. They're really impressive. They look like those old roman frescos. Or those Altamira(?) cave paintings in France. Any idea about their age? Are we talking about hundreds or thousands of years old?

I like the third one the most.

I can see why they would want to protect them. Marring one of those would be a real tragedy. I'm trying to get a perspective on their size. As I recall from the books they're really large, aren't they?

Ken: no gps back then (1986). The military had them though. Only 8 satellites had been launched (now 24 I think). The gps receiver was the size of a shimano tackle box in those days.

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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 12:41 AM


Thanks Joe for sharing. Very special stuff!



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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 07:22 AM


For balance, one reason you should not go on the trip...



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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 07:32 AM


Thanks for the pictures:)If the fish aren't biting and the water's too rough for kayaking, head for the hills.:bounce:
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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 07:47 AM


INAH research dates the paintings back as far as 3000 bc, possibly. Size varies-- those we saw are life size and larger. Some are on cave ceilings and other hard to reach places. Some people say the Altamira paintings are less spectacular than these.



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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 07:55 AM


Paula, radiocarbon dating from the paint pigment in several locations in the Fransciscos date some of the paintings at 7,800 ybp.
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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 12:14 PM


On the hike in to the cave paintings in Valle Trinidad, you cross an area which includes an old dam filled by a stream and by rainwater. It was February when we were there, and I especially liked crossing the water and stepping out into the caves.

Con permiso, I'll show you a few pix of how that was.

Climbing up toward the damn:

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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 12:18 PM


The steep walls of the Trinidads provided some truly lovely views around each corner. In this one you can see the water in the dam way below:

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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 12:19 PM


And when you get down there the water is clear as glass:

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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 12:21 PM


A paddle in a small boat gets one to the first and larger cave with the rock paintings:

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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 12:23 PM


And then suddenly, around one corner, some large flat red rock and a long swept back overhang. We anchor the boat and step onto the rock... and then, looking up and across to the wall of the overhang... the most surprising sight:

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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 12:25 PM


There were paintings in different colors, from different eras, the white being the ones which best show up in my photographs. There was something I especially liked about these hands:

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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 01:00 PM


Nena,
The third image is sooooo absolutely GORGEOUS!!! I want to jump into those colors! And the manos magicas, I haven't seen that image down here before-- it's a favorite symbol of mine.

Now I want to go there more than ever-- was it a day trip? Or did you camp? Is the boat you took in the place where I thought you had to swim? I hope you'll tell us about the trip as well as showing us!

I think Igor must be convinced by now:dudette:




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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 01:33 PM


The water was just the way it looked... glassey and boy! was it icey. Yep, same pool as others swim across. I'm sure the water gets warmer as the year goes on... and also that it gets lower. We covered a good bit of water in our little boat, across the dam and up the stream.

This is a nice little day trip. Leave in a car from Mulege, drive through the desert with the opportunity to get out, explore, have Salavdor tell ya about the plants (which I thought was way cool). At the base of the Trinidads, we stopped at a small rancho which is the entry point of the hike to the paintings. Afterwards, the folks there provide an excellent rancho lunch.

The hike in took some time but was not difficult. I particularly enjoyed the ever-changing landscape and feel the trip would have been worth it just for seeing all that. The cave paintings, more than I've shown here, are truly icing on the cake of this trip.

And ya know, Paula, if Igor isn't convinced by now... well, he's just gonna miss out, that's all I can say.




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[*] posted on 4-28-2007 at 08:09 PM


Thanx for the rox pix - amazing find.



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[*] posted on 4-29-2007 at 07:10 PM


Thank you ladies for contributing your cave excursions to this thread. It really does help to see in advance what the best of bajas cave paintings have to offer.

I really liked your picture of the palo blanco in the canyon the most. It's so characteristic of those canyons and so beautifully displayed. Has an oriental feeling to it, don't you think?
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[*] posted on 4-29-2007 at 11:40 PM


Thank you Natalie for sharing those wonderful photos!



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[*] posted on 5-1-2007 at 08:52 AM


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I really liked your picture of the palo blanco in the canyon the most. It's so characteristic of those canyons and so beautifully displayed. Has an oriental feeling to it, don't you think?


The few palo blancos and cardons growing way up the sides of those canyon walls were just gorgeous, and created quite a magical feeling. These next photos show us walking deeper into that canyon, and then give you one very artsy shot of the plant life high above us.

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[*] posted on 5-1-2007 at 08:53 AM


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