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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
Al
I have to disagree with Bob, have done a lot of research on transmissions and believe you should do what I just had done, Drop the pan drain,pump all
the fluid including the torque converter, change the filter, and the largest Transmission cooler you can buy. They have them here in La Paz if not
there, otherwise you will NOT make it back from what you have said.
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I think this is what I must do. The cooler is as important as a complete change. I am worried that my spanish is to poco, but I will get it done. I
had to come to town to get on the internet so another setback. Got to find a parts house and see about a cooler.
Albert G
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Al G
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Would I have better luck in Santa Rosalia?
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I think Santa Rosalia will have everything you need, is it a chevy engine? If so all parts easy.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by comitan
I think Santa Rosalia will have everything you need, is it a chevy engine? If so all parts easy. |
Yes it is a 454 chevy, but I don't know what transmission. Filter and gasket is the Question....cooler would be generic.
Well I am off to talk to people in bars for some help...a lot of things are closed, I guess over the steet paving...looks like they are almost done.
Albert G
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It is probably a TH400 used in just about everything, only difference is RV Torque Converter.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Here is a description for draining/changing the ATF in Ford trucks. While Al's vehicle is not the same, this generic description can be applied to
many vehicle except, of course, the tranny capacity and the description of the return line. I have done this twice in my truck.
Changing ATF in a '99-up SuperDuty
I've done this alone. It's easier with a second person, and sometimes helps prevent spills.
1. Things you need to get started:
a. The transmission system holds almost 18 quarts of ATF, and you must waste a couple of quarts to be sure you get it all purged and replaced, so
buy 20 quarts of MERCON ATF (do NOT buy MERCON V!). Ford also warns against using a fluid that has a dual MERCON and MERCON V rating. You may use
either conventional or synthetic, as long as it meets the above requirements.
b. A 10 foot length of clear tubing and one hose clamp, sized to fit over your cooler hose. There have been different size cooler lines over the
years, so check before buying!
c. If you don't already have a special funnel that fits into the transmission dipstick tube, then you will need one of those, too.
2. Drain the pan, then replace and tighten the drain plug.
3. Pour 7 quarts of new ATF into the filler [dipstick] tube.
4. Disconnect the transmission-fluid return line at the transmission - from where the ATF returns to the transmission from the cooler. This is the
line towards the rear of the transmission. Clamp the clear tubing over the line that you removed from the transmission. This is where the old ATF from
the torque convertor and coolers will come out.
5. This is where the second person comes in handy. One person starts the engine, while the other holds the line over the drain bucket. A clothes pin
can replace the person holding the line in the bucket.
a. Run the engine until you see some air in the clear tubing. As soon as you see air shut off the engine.
b. While the engine is running in step 5a above, move the shifter through each position from P to 1, pausing about 5 seconds at each position. This
will change some fluid that would otherwise be trapped in the valve body, accumulators, and clutches.
c. Refill through the dipstick tube with 6 quarts of new ATF. (That's 13 quarts total so far).
6. Repeat steps 5a and 5c. (That's 19 quarts total so far).
7. Remove the clear line and reconnect the cooler line to the transmission.
8. Check the fluid level and use the last quart of ATF to top off.
9. Properly dispose of the used transmission fluid.
10. Congratulate yourself! And your engine starter/killer person.
11. Then get back in the '99-up forum and tell us your "lessons learned" for those that follow you.
Now that we understand the basic procedure, let's muddy the water with the options:
Optional: Change the tranny filter. Revise paragraph 2 above to read:
2. Drain the pan, remove the pan, replace the tranny filter, install the pan, then replace and tighten the drain plug.
Don't buy a new pan gasket. The original is reusable.
I replace the transmission filter every other fluid change. Note that Ford does not recommend ever changing the filter. I've opened filters with over
300,000 miles that were not even close to being clogged.
It just pulls out, there are no bolts that hold it. It is held in place by the pan. Make sure that the O-ring is removed, too. Sometimes it does not
come out with the filter.
Optional: Drain the torque convertor. Add the following to paragraph 2 above:
If your truck was built before August, 2001, then you may have a drain plug in the torque convertor. If you do, then you can also drain the torque
convertor as part of step 2 above. Some people think it is necessary, but I don't. Running the engine in the next steps will pump the fluid out of the
torque converter. If your transmission was built after August 2001, you don't have a drain plug in the torque converter.
To drain the torque converter remove the shield (but NOT the upper right bolt - this one only needs to be loosened) and turn the flywheel until you
see the drain plug. If you drain the torque convertor, be sure to replace the drain plug before you continue.
If you drain the torque convertor, then the old ATF won't come out of the end of the cooler line until the torque convertor is filled with ATF. So
instead of waiting until you see air bubbles in the drain line in step 5a, run the engine for about 30 seconds while changing gears for step 5b, then
cut off the engine.
Optional: Blow out the coolers. Add the following to paragraph 4 above.
It's not necessary, but some folks want to get every possible drop of the old ATF out of the system before they add new ATF. If you drained the torque
convertor, then you might also want to blow the ATF out of the coolers and cooler lines. If you have an air compressor, you can reduce the pressure to
about 15 PSI, remove the cooler "hot" line from the front of the tranny, and blow air into that line. That will force the ATF in the coolers and lines
out the cooler return line at the back of the tranny. DO NOT use air pressure of more than about 15 PSI! Then be sure to reconnect that line before
you continue with paragraph 5.
Optional: Don't even drain the pan!
The tranny pump will get almost all of the ATF out of the pan, so some folks don't even drain the pan before they begin. Move paragraph 4 up to the
top before paragraph 2, then instead of draining the pan paragraph 2 would say you simply run the engine until you see air bubbles in the drain line.
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Al G
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Wow Hook what tranny shop do you own??Thanks
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Al
Whatever you do, when your ready to head up that hill with the engine hot check the transmission fluid to make sure its not to full, I know of 2 rigs
that where overfilled blew the fluid out onto hot exhaust on that grade and burnt to the ground along with the vehicle they were towing.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
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Bob and Susan
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i sent chin over to "take a look"
he was driving around and i stopped him
remember today is sunday...
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Sharks.....go to any large feed store, ask them for some elbow length disposable gloves, really inexpensive, keeps yer hands clean!!!
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
i sent chin over to "take a look"
he was driving around and i stopped him
remember today is sunday... |
You keep trying to help...today I was out looking for parts houses and pro bely missed him too!
Hopefully he will return as I really need him.
I have a Polaris quad with GPS...a long shot but if you had a lat/long for GPS I could find him. if I get there I will fix it and post lat/ long
headings to get him more work from Nomads.
I hope you told him I hang-out in the oficnia/bar/pool area too
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Identification
Forgot to mention I am the good looking guy with a "GOT BAJA" hat or big Dell laptop with a "GOT BAJA" sticker.
Albert G
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the store next to Mely's has Awesome...
it's AWESOME
you get the stuff at the 99cent store in the USA
here it's a little more
[Edited on 4-29-2007 by Bob and Susan]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
the store next to Mely's has Awesome...
it AWESOME
you get the stuff at the 99cent store in the USA
here it's a little more |
Albert G
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al
this stuff removes oil and oil products
it's the BEST stuff on the market hands down
~$4.50 HERE 99 cents in the USA
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One other modification I made on my truck was to route the rubber return hose (from the cooler to the tranny) into my passenger side wheel well. I
mounted a generic filter mount (a cheap Derale) that accommodates your basic PH8A type oil filter. Also had to buy a small 1 foot section of
tranny-rated line, a couple hose clamps to make it work but it increased my capacity by about 1 qt and I will never have to deal with cleaning the
internal screen inside the valve body. This also filters down much finer than the screen and is easy and clean to replace. For protection from small
rocks that might be thrown up by the front tire, I cable tied an "envelope" of galvanized metal mesh around the filter that still allows for
ventilation.
BTW, I didnt mean to imply the draining method I posted was my invention. I got it off the dieselsite.com site.
But the biggest thing you can do for your tranny is to switch to synthetic tranny fluid. It's well worth the extra cost as it's breaking temp is
supposedly around 100 degrees higher than conventional fluid. Have to thank Roberto for convincing me to go this route.
Walmart is now carrying the Mobil 1 brand....it's around 6.00 quart.
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WalMart Ensenada ----- Mobile 1.........Ten dollars a quart.
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Al G...How is your tranny problem coming along? I know lots of supply stores, parts depots, mechanics in Mulege. We are coming into Mulege later
this afternoon...around 4:30 - 5:00. Will check on you at Serinadad or meet us at Jungle if we miss you. Also will have fishing suggestions.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Al G...How is your tranny problem coming along? I know lots of supply stores, parts depots, mechanics in Mulege. We are coming into Mulege later
this afternoon...around 4:30 - 5:00. Will check on you at Serinadad or meet us at Jungle if we miss you. Also will have fishing suggestions.
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Pompano...Thanks and I will see you here or there...Jungle has not had any life since I have been here...checked 3 times yesterday....also Scott's
pelican bar in town is closed too?? Hoping Bob's mechanico come by this morning, but if not We will talk and maybe you will have my answer. I need to
put a tranny cooler on to. I am sure I need to change the oil, but may be panicking for nothing over the oil color. I am a fair mechanic because of my
racing years, but auto trannys were not part of my experince...infact Hook has giving me enough info to make me feel more comfortable. Finding a big
cooler is going to be the big deal.
Albert G
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Al ----
Some months back, I pulled the stick from my tranny and the oil looked like a strawberry malt. Yep, water in the oil from an aborted cooler.
See Albert ? Things could be worse.
You'll be OK.
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