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Pompano
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"La Bahia"
That is the name of this Conception Bay waterfront project.
Seems like very good construction methods are happening here.
Like this 3-chamber septic tank. Ain't she beautiful?
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Iflyfish
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Congrats! You really did it! Good for you!
I too appreciate the photos. I enjoyed watching Juan build a rock wall. Really an art.
I hope your life in Asuncion is good for you and your family. You will be surrounded by some wonderful people who I have met who are also building
there.
Saludos!
Iflyfish
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Baja Bernie
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JDTrotter
Look at your picture and then look at Pompano's.......His has the pass trough pipes that I didn't see in yours..........It is not unusual for the
Mexicans to fail to put this little thing in and that makes your septic system much less efficient
See my story here on Building a dream home...just posted yesterday.
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DENNIS
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Bernie ---
It's Mexican block construction. They'll poke a hole in the walls for a cross-over pipe. Just like building a block house then chiseling channels
for electrical wiring.
At least, that's what I'm assuming they did.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Bernie ---
It's Mexican block construction. They'll poke a hole in the walls for a cross-over pipe. Just like building a block house then chiseling channels
for electrical wiring.
At least, that's what I'm assuming they did. |
It does not show well in that picture, but it does in others. That is exactly what they did---they poked a hole in the wall.
Diane
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Baja Bernie
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Just as long as the hole gets there.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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Bob and Susan
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here's ours by the garage
the pipes flow over the walls
now that we are building on the beach we are doing something a little different
we have 4 different locations
where plastic tanks serve as the septic receivers instead of concrete
this way none of the "bad stuff" will leak into the bay 
by the time ANY water gets to the ground it should be clean....er...
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DianaT
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Can hardly wait until someone adds a picture of a used septic tank.  
Diane
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DENNIS
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Diane ----
With proper use and maintenance, they don't look bad.
Used improperly, they look like s**t.
What size, how many gallons is your tank?
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Sharksbaja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
here's ours by the garage
the pipes flow over the walls
now that we are building on the beach we are doing something a little different
we have 4 different locations
where plastic tanks serve as the septic receivers instead of concrete
this way none of the "bad stuff" will leak into the bay
by the time ANY water gets to the ground it should be clean....er...
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question: Why are those 3' pipes bent down like that on both sides? Does that keep the "floaters" on one side?
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Diane ----
With proper use and maintenance, they don't look bad.
Used improperly, they look like s**t.
What size, how many gallons is your tank? |
Dennis,
While we measured almost everything else, we did not measure the septic---don't know the size, but will find out next trip. Shari was with us and
said it was a lot bigger than the ones she had seen in the area.
I know, it is a question we should have asked, and will.
At this time, none of the grey water will go into the septic---it will be used for other things --- plants, car washing, dog washing, etc.
Diane
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Cypress
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Good not to waste the "grey water". Septic tanks should be built to deal
with about a thousand gallons of wastewater.
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DENNIS
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Diane ----
Don't know how many will be using it regularly but, for two yours looks plenty large. Rule of thumb is 1000 gallons for a family of two. If you
have good percolating soil in the drain [ leech ] field, don't be afraid to run your kitchen sink into it. Otherwise you run out greasy water with
the gray water. It draws flies and has other bad effects and your dog will be a grease-ball.
Sharks guessed right on the lower opening for the pipes although if "floaters" are bobbing around the surface, your tank isn't doing its job of
decomposing waste. At the surface will be a layer of "scum" which the cross-over pipes go below.
The drainfield is just as important to the whole process as the tank. It can make or break the system.
I know I'm going on and on about these systems but they have to be understood, especially in Mexico where many builders don't understand the
difference between a septic system and a cesspool.
Anyway, it looks like you guys have it together. Good luck.
By the way.......To figure volume ----- Establish cubic footage and take it to a conversion site on the web.
[Edited on 5-4-2007 by DENNIS]
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oladulce
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
... Conception Bay waterfront project.
Seems like very good construction methods are happening here. Like this 3-chamber septic tank. |
As part of the Environmental Impact study and review of our building plans, SEMARNAT required the block/concrete design in the photos I posted with a
fourth round filtration chamber filled with graduating sizes of aggragate. "Because you're next to the Federal Zone" was their rationale. Each chamber
is about 8'x8' and 10' deep. Definitely no leach fields allowed.
The criteria they used which required the 4th chamber could be location-dependent, or new vs old rules, or may just depend which way the wind is
blowing that day that'll determine the rules that'll apply to each project?
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Bob and Susan
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i think someone told me about the bent pipes but i don't remember the reason...
but they said that's just a different way...more like the USA
we do have four chambers too...
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bajadock
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septic design
Septic design for my new home. How many sanitation engineers lurk on nomad?
[Edited on 5-5-2007 by bajadock]
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DENNIS
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bajadock -----
Interesting design, to say the least. I see the "entrada" on the left but don't see the "salida" on the opposite end. Where does the efluent exit
the chamber?
Also, the entrance pipe drops into the chamber. It doesn't have to drop at all. It just has to be higher than the exit pipe, which you don't seem
to have anyway.
If your contractor builds that tank as shown, you will have a huge problem.
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Bob and Susan
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here's how i read the diagram...
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DENNIS
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Oh, yeah. Now it makes sense.
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bajadock
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My Aquifer
B&S, I am laffing my bunz off!!! I KNEW that someone from the scientific community, like you, would provide proper analysis and evaluation of my
"aquifer". If my contractor sees this, he'll add big surcharge to final bill. PURRFECT!
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