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[*] posted on 8-20-2007 at 04:42 PM


Radios that are "opened up" to transmit and or receive work
just as well if not better In most cases these radios are made
for a variety of "markets" and they are all designed to cover
the same overlap frequenies. The law enforcement , marine frequencies and the the 2 meter band are close together. Often times a 2 meter can be made to tranceive
in all three. However I would not be transmiting on the sheriffs frequencies. You will be convicted even if it was an emergency. The only difference is that the modified radio you use is not "type Accepted" for use on any other frequency other than what it was designed for.
The best setup would be to have a licensed 2 meter repeater set up along the high points of baja. It does not take a lot of wattage for large coverage. Repeaters in the
LA basin area have consistent reliable coverage using sites
like Mount Wilson, even Catalina. 2 to 5 watts out on a handheld can cover many miles. One could put a repeater at
Meling Ranch, Santa Rosalia, or The Sierras above Loreto.
They could be battery run and recharged by solar power.
The more remote the better,keeps down the theft problem.
There are repeater chains in Baja run by Mexican ham radio operators,in both Ensenada and La Paz. they can be linked to repeaters in the US at their choosing.
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[*] posted on 8-20-2007 at 04:51 PM
Communication Lawlessness


I don't know about anyone else, but I Worry a whole bunch when I'm violating all of those FCC rules in Mexico, considering how many DF mobile units you see roaming through Baja looking for violators.

But then, I also get the shakes when I look at those FBI warnings on the pirate DVDs. Waiting for that knock on the door almost spoils the viewing, though I do feel less threatened in Mexico.

However, the other day I ran into one that had an INTERPOL warning. Jeez. You're not safe anywhere.
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[*] posted on 8-20-2007 at 05:18 PM


I was in Lucerne Valley CA a couple years ago and tuned my radio to what was supposed to be a racers frequency and I was listening to the Clark County NV sheriff's office talking to units in both Laughlin and Las Vegas.



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[*] posted on 8-21-2007 at 08:42 AM
VHF/UHF unlicensed operation


Good discussion...as in all things in Mexico, one's ability to operate outside the law depends upon enforcement. SCT is the local equivalent of our FCC and gives out permits and licenses to operate our radios. They also are responsible for enforcement. For a licensed ham operator to use his radio in Mexico requires a reciprocal license issued by SCT. (I know, I know). By international agreement frequency allocations are stipulated to avoid interference to valuable services. Here in the Central Coast of CA, near the 2 meter ham band, are the Forest Service, Cottage Hospital, the airport, 5 search and rescue channels, to name a few. Sure wouldn't want to interfere with their radios. Unlicensed operation in the ham bands is usually caught by some hams who live to catch "bootleggers". Getting a ham license has never been easier, now that the code requirement is eliminated. There are classes where you earn the license in one day. We use ham radio to a great extent in Baja. HF radios work even in deep canyons, giving world-wide communication. The VHF radios, like 2 meters, as mentioned by another poster, are line-of-sight, but with the repeaters on the hilltops you have greatly extended range. These are found near populated areas. Here in the US, repeaters are linked nation-wide, many have phone patches, other services. Computers are even linked through these systems. A legal license to operate opens communication possibilities in many modes (SSB, FM, TV, etc.) and on a multitude of bands. It is a valuable asset even here in the USA. And...you don't have to look over your shoulder for FCC or SCT.

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[*] posted on 8-21-2007 at 06:21 PM


Wow, look what you started Halboo! Now I got a headache. So much info. You guys are all so much smarter. I think I'll stick to posting on the surfer and offroader threads.
Now I'm going to feel like I'm back in the 70s and just took a big hit off the bong every time I key my mic.
Ignorance is bliss sometimes :bounce::bounce:
Anyway guys, thanks for all the good info. I guess I know who to look up now if I have a radio issue. Course I'll have to take a class first and fill out a bunch of Federal forms of some kind and get a plastic pocket protector but thats all good, I'm adaptable :?::?:




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[*] posted on 8-21-2007 at 06:38 PM



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[*] posted on 8-21-2007 at 06:42 PM


The problem with Mexico is they don't have bands of frequencies allocated to specific business interest, unless they've done so in the last few years. The marine band may be one of a few that are because of international agreements. When I was working in San Diego at TV 39 several years ago we were getting interference from Mexico on our two way radios (450/455 broadcast band). It turns out it was the governor of Baja's security force. The problem was quickly resolved by them changing frequencies. However it was pointed out that it could just as easily been a taxi or other business.
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[*] posted on 8-21-2007 at 08:19 PM


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Don't be afraid...if *I* can do it (I have been licensed since 1989 and have an Advanced class license), ANYBODY can! As said earlier, now it's easier than ever to get your ham radio license now that there's no code requirement (darn it all - I took that 13wpm test 5 times before I finally got that General code out of the way) and in a couple days of pouring over the possible test questions & multiple choice answers (get yourself one of Gordon West's study course books ~ he really has a knack for making it all understancable and not just geek-speak) and you'll be hunting down a test site, eager as ever to get on the bands.

I can't begin to tell you the fun I've had with ham radio (and it's all legal - we were told that as long as we're traveling in Baja all we have to do is sign with our callsign and /XE2) but whenever we're on the road I can guarantee you we've got a radio on. We use HF to check in stateside daily on a regular schedule, too.

If anybody's interested in finding out more information about getting your ham radio license, I hope you won't hesitate to U2U so I can point you in the right direction (is that kinda like "telling you where to go"???!!!???)

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[*] posted on 8-21-2007 at 09:43 PM


Want a PRACTICAL answer, Halboo?

If you are talking car-to-car communications, then the FRS radios work fine, especially if you have the single ear bud with the voice-activated mic (cheap and included with some units).

But hand-held VHF works quite nicely for this purpose as well.

CBs are static prone, low range dinosaurs.

Cell phones are very limited for large distances on the peninsula.

2 meter radios are pricey but have great range and you have to have another with the radio for car to car.




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