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Marie-Rose
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
Our experiences with coyotes in Bahia:
Usually in the evening times we've had one lone coyote come close to camp, and yip almost playfully as if to lure our dog away. At the same time we
can see other glowing eyes waiting a little further out in the desert.
When we were camping at La Perla we had the same thing happen with our our Mexican mutt. The coyote's were staying close as Rosa(proprieter) had a
sick goat they were after. Paloma was out in the desert with one of the guys, doing their "morning constitution" thing and she took to chasing the
coyote away but having lived on the desert she instantly sensed the group that were waiting in the hills and turned away. It could have been
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Remember, when in Mexico, yes may be no and no may be
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JDTrotter-Help please
Could you PLEASE PLEASE tell me about rattlesnake training. That is one thing that I have always worried about.
My dogs are trained not to touch puffers, but in October & November and then in April there are a lot of rattlers in my area in LosCabos near
Santiago, and I have a couple of dogs that will hunt down and chase everything.
Thank you
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SunBums
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Daisy Mae and us thank you for all the useful ( and humorus ...) advice.
We have traveled in mexico but never with a dog..babysitters anybody?
Thanks
SunBums
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Jack Swords
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We have had our dog with us the past 9 years all over Baja for 5 months each year. As far as dog friendly hotels, Don Gus in Guerrero Negro has NOT
allowed dogs the past two years. There is a big sign in the office stating "NO DOGS". They don't get our business now. There are other places in GN.
Also, the very dog-friendly Hacienda de Cortez (Engleberts) in La Paz no longer exists. Mange does seem to be common among street dogs and we have
participated in some rescues that require treatment. We try to keep our dog away from those affected. Recently we were informed that dogs are not
allowed on the Malecon (except street dogs, I guess). We have been asked for the International Health Certificate twice. Our vet charges $20 in the
US, our La Paz vet charges $8. When we flew from La Paz to Guaymas, they would not give us our dog until we produced the certificate. I'd rather pay
the small fee (like insurance) for the certificate than have to turn around in TJ or Tecate and find a vet.
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bajaguy
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Fritzkie
Check your u2u re: snake avoidance training
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Mango
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If you take your dog to Mexico, make sure it's tough enough to roll with the urban dogs too.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jack Swords
We have had our dog with us the past 9 years all over Baja for 5 months each year. As far as dog friendly hotels, Don Gus in Guerrero Negro has NOT
allowed dogs the past two years. There is a big sign in the office stating "NO DOGS". They don't get our business now. There are other places in GN.
Also, the very dog-friendly Hacienda de Cortez (Engleberts) in La Paz no longer exists. Mange does seem to be common among street dogs and we have
participated in some rescues that require treatment. We try to keep our dog away from those affected. Recently we were informed that dogs are not
allowed on the Malecon (except street dogs, I guess). We have been asked for the International Health Certificate twice. Our vet charges $20 in the
US, our La Paz vet charges $8. When we flew from La Paz to Guaymas, they would not give us our dog until we produced the certificate. I'd rather pay
the small fee (like insurance) for the certificate than have to turn around in TJ or Tecate and find a vet. |
Uh-oh! If dogs are not allowed on the Malecon in La Paz on leashes, then I will not go to La Paz. I always take plastic bags and clean up after my
dog. I have never had anybody object to him walking with me. I love La Paz! I go there every year. My dog is always with me. La Paz will lose my
business, its restaurants will lose my business, The Dock will lose my business, the RV parks will lose my business....well, that can be exponential
when I and other responsible dog owners boycott La Paz. I will pass on the warning. 
It will be difficult for me emotionally, but it is very easy to bypass La Paz on my way to Las Barrilles, where I have reservations. I can also get
down to Cabo and visit Judy's book store. I'll just spend more time & $$ in those towns.
Sorry, Jesse. Your restaurant(I do leave my dog in the RV while eating out at night) was something I was really looking forward to. It was #1 on my
list. And I wanted to meet you too.
[Edited on 9-7-2007 by toneart]
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by frizkie
Could you PLEASE PLEASE tell me about rattlesnake training. That is one thing that I have always worried about.
My dogs are trained not to touch puffers, but in October & November and then in April there are a lot of rattlers in my area in LosCabos near
Santiago, and I have a couple of dogs that will hunt down and chase everything.
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In Southern California there is a trainer, Patrick Callahan who does this training in several locations every year. His web site Patrick Callahan
It involves the use of a shock collar with which I had a very difficult time. But they assured me it did not really hurt the dog. And, IMHO, it is
better than a snake bite! I know some say a dog will survive a bite, and I have known some who did, and some who did not survive.
It really worked with our big dog----he is now very cautious. Our little dog may need another session. Don't know if there is a similar training
where you live.
Our Vet told us the vaccine helps---she uses it on her dogs, but it is not the final answer.
Good Luck.
Diane
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Paulina
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Diane,
I was wondering how the anti-rattlesnake training went. When Bajaguy said to check u2u I was sure that it must be something secret, not open to public
knowledge...so I let my imagination get the best of me.
I had visions of how I would go about training our dog Cora...She is a Lizard hunter. From the moment she jumps out of the truck until time to go to
back to the States she pounces on bushes, turns over rocks, upsets piles of wood, all in hopes of scaring out the unsuspecting lizard. We worry about
her hopping on a rattlesnake one of these days. We stop her when we catch her, but it's a constant behavior. She even does it north of the border.
So in my sick mind I imagined the next time I find a dead rattler, or have the reason to kill one myself (as we did this summer), after chopping off
the head, I'd let her get a good sniff of it then chase her around with it, winging it in circles over my head like a lasso, scaring the heck out of
her so she'd know they were bad, or I was crazy, one of the two. Usually if we tell her, "This is NO!" in a big voice it works, so I might add that to
my anti-rattler sessions with her. I'd put it into a ziplock and keep it in the cooler to bring out when she least expected it, or resumed pouncing on
bushes, until just the sight of it gets the message across.
I haven't hit Dern up with the idea yet.
P<*)))><
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toneart
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Can anyone in La Paz confirm the statement by Jack Swords' report that "no dogs allowed on the Malecon"? I am very upset by this. (see post above)
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
Diane,
I was wondering how the anti-rattlesnake training went. When Bajaguy said to check u2u I was sure that it must be something secret, not open to public
knowledge...so I let my imagination get the best of me.
I had visions of how I would go about training our dog Cora...She is a Lizard hunter. From the moment she jumps out of the truck until time to go to
back to the States she pounces on bushes, turns over rocks, upsets piles of wood, all in hopes of scaring out the unsuspecting lizard. We worry about
her hopping on a rattlesnake one of these days. We stop her when we catch her, but it's a constant behavior. She even does it north of the border.
So in my sick mind I imagined the next time I find a dead rattler, or have the reason to kill one myself (as we did this summer), after chopping off
the head, I'd let her get a good sniff of it then chase her around with it, winging it in circles over my head like a lasso, scaring the heck out of
her so she'd know they were bad, or I was crazy, one of the two. Usually if we tell her, "This is NO!" in a big voice it works, so I might add that to
my anti-rattler sessions with her. I'd put it into a ziplock and keep it in the cooler to bring out when she least expected it, or resumed pouncing on
bushes, until just the sight of it gets the message across.
I haven't hit Dern up with the idea yet.
P<*)))>< |
You MUST take pictures of your training session. 
Callahan used live snakes either muzzled or defanged. Our vet thinks it may be cruel to the snakes----but she really loves ALL animals.
It is three snake training---one in the open, one without a rattle, and one hidden in a bag.
Now, I just can't recommend you running around swinging a living rattlesnake ---also, it might not like the cooler. 
Diane
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bajaguy
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paulina
Not a secret, just didn't want to clutter up the board/post with my reply.
Our lab Libbie (AKA: Flan Breath) is also a lizard hunter, but stays away from snakes or snake look alikes....
[Edited on 9-7-2007 by bajaguy]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
I haven't hit Dern up with the idea yet.
P<*)))>< |
You mean, Dern is in need of some training?
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Jack Swords
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Take a look at Jesse's post on 8-28-07 re: La Paz Malecon. We are not there now, and cannot confirm Jesse's post. I agree that it will have a
negative effect on many folks (tourists) who walk the beautiful malecon with their leashed dog. I just don't see how they can enforce it with all the
street dogs. Come cruising season (Oct/Nov through May) it will be interesting how people respond to this and the banning of bicycles too. We are
just waiting to see what happens when we get down for the winter. Maybe Jesse has more information.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jack Swords
Take a look at Jesse's post on 8-28-07 re: La Paz Malecon. We are not there now, and cannot confirm Jesse's post. I agree that it will have a
negative effect on many folks (tourists) who walk the beautiful malecon with their leashed dog. I just don't see how they can enforce it with all the
street dogs. Come cruising season (Oct/Nov through May) it will be interesting how people respond to this and the banning of bicycles too. We are
just waiting to see what happens when we get down for the winter. Maybe Jesse has more information. |
Thanks, Jack.
I did just read Jesse's past post. Maybe the city is talking about the stray dog population. Maybe I will test it this winter. Is it a new law? Do
they have signs posted? Can the strays read Spanish?
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frizkie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Check your u2u re: snake avoidance training |
Thanks so much for this info re rattlesnake training. Great Stuff!!
I have taken my dogs to Baja driving from Victoria BC Canada to Baja Sur every year and back for ten or so years and they have never had a problem.
I make sure they have ALL their shots up to date and I give them Advantix and heartworm medication during the six months I am in Baja. I feed them
the Raw Meat diet (BARF..that's the name of the diet...stands for Bones and Raw Foods) so I never have any hassels with being able to get them good
healthy "au natural" dog food. They are very healthy.
One is a Baja rescue - Chihuahua, PePito- one is a rescue from Venezuela, Jose - and one is a Miniature Pinscher from Vancouver, Julio....They are all
small male dogs with big attitudes and there has never been a problem with any Mexican dogs or diseases. They most often make friends with all the
dogs they meet and the ones that don't want to be friendly they chase away.
They are tough little "bugs" full of love.
They have never once picked up any kind of disease or bug in all of our travels. Well, maybe a few fleas now and again when running through a place
where alot of beach dogs have been hangin'..I just combed them out right there and then...All three are short haired dogs which also helps.
I also have picked up and rescued many "sure to be soon dead dogs" and had them living with us until I could nurse them back to health and find them
a good home. So they have had lots of close contact to sick dogs..I don't know, maybe I have just been lucky.
I say, "Take your dogs along with you every chance you get, they make the trip so much more fun!!!" And they are always good protection no matter
what size they are.
Feliz Viaje Perros
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jack Swords
Take a look at Jesse's post on 8-28-07 re: La Paz Malecon. We are not there now, and cannot confirm Jesse's post. I agree that it will have a
negative effect on many folks (tourists) who walk the beautiful malecon with their leashed dog. I just don't see how they can enforce it with all the
street dogs. Come cruising season (Oct/Nov through May) it will be interesting how people respond to this and the banning of bicycles too. We are
just waiting to see what happens when we get down for the winter. Maybe Jesse has more information. |
just because the locals strays are loose on the malaecon does not mean your pampered gringo pooch deserves to be on the malaecon. my dog only goes
where appropriate -- and he stays home when not appropriate. you dog-fanatics should learn to leave your dog home when you go tot he malaecon, and
buck up and live by the rules without whining. it's not the end of the world if your dog can't go to the malecon. really, it's not.
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Bob and Susan
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what??? notice dogs CAN'T spell
[Edited on 9-8-2007 by Bob and Susan]
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We always travel with hydrogen peroxide. If your dog eats a puffer fish, force a teaspoon of it down his/her throat and they will throw up and
hopefully get rid of the poison. Of course it works for anything they eat that looks suspect to you.
As for coyotes, we were in Laguna San Ignacio a few years back and I asked someone why there were not dogs around. They told me that the coyotes send
out a pup, who will play with your dog(no one can resist a puppy, right) and lead him back to the pack where he is immediately killed.
My dogs stay on leashes when we travel because they are not as well trained as Toneart's.
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Jack Swords
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Commenting on a new ordinance in La Paz (our home city for 1/2 the year) does not make one a "dog-fanatic" nor one who takes their dog to
inappropriate places. The purpose of this board is to inform folks and "discuss" items relative to Baja. That's all that is significant to these
postings. To imply that folks discussing relative new rules are "fanatics" is out-of-line and cannot help but create a chilling effect on further
postings. Lots of changes are happening in La Paz, some good, some not. Being informed, or being an informer, does not necessarily make one an
advocate nor a "whiner". It is simply creating awareness of a change, nothing more, nothing less.
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