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Mango
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Thanks Barry for the info. I have heard that it dries up before it reaches the sea in the past. I guess I will have to prey for some rain. I've
seen some water in the Rio Hardy and know that many people fish there.. so I am sure some local trips can be done. I intend to do some scouting of
the river there when it cools down a bit.
I'm still not sure about your takeout. Is/was there a road near the mouth of the river?
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Barry A.
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Mango---------this is a little off topic, but when that "banner rain year" happens, and Lake Mead fills up to the brim, I want to boat up into the
Grand Canyon as far as I can just to see things---------I think that would be a great adventure.
So, in the mean time we just wait, and wait, and wait---------
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Barry A.
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Mango-----back in the early 80's, there were several "tracks" leading west from the El Golfo highway out onto the mud flats and along rudimentary
dikes that gave us access to the main river (actually a backwater to the main river) but things change drastically over the years and I have no idea
of the status now. I can't really remember exactly where we "took out" but it was roughly opposite Montague Island, or slightly above
there---------my friend Steve Nelson made several more trips down the river in those flood years (I had moved away) and he at least one time floated
all the way to El Golfo, but I was not with him--------my son was, tho.
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Barry A.
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Mango-----you mention the Rio Hardy------we also launched my 14 foot Gregor with a 15hp Johnson from Yuri Muri on the Rio Hardy near the highway to
San Felipe back in the early 80's and were able to boat out about 10 miles into the delta------it was pretty much touch and go with the outboard,
hitting lots of sand and mud bars, (cleaned up the prop nicely :lol and having to
hand-tow the boat back up against the current in several tiny rapid areas because the water was too shallow for the outboard, but it was fun, and we
saw a lot of country this way-------this was after we took the canoe trip, but the river was still in flood.
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Cypress
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Natalie Ann Thanks for the pictures.
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In the late 90's (can't remember which year) the area just south of Cocopah on the Rio Hardy was all flooded, right up to the Hghy 5 causeway. And on
the other hand, I've only seen water under the bridge on Hghy 2 just east of San Luis Rio Colorado a couple of years.
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Natalie Ann
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I have seen old films of that area... and as BarryA said of his 1984 trip, there were lush green trees and famlands with abundant wildlife. One day
long ago. Today it's dead. Everywhere except the bits and pieces fed by the Colorado canal. Hardly anything left to reach the Sea.
I've heard that small areas of northern Baja coast are beginning to be coaxed back towards nature by some of the indiginous folk. Can't remember
facts. This was discussed awhile back and someone recommended an excellent book on this topic. I also cannot remember the book title nor find it in
search. Any of you remember this?
(forgive the old brain... some days it works good, but this is not one of those days)
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
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tehag
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Book
Red Delta. Don't have it in front of me, so no author or publisher, but you should be able to find it.
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Natalie Ann
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tehag
Red Delta. Don't have it in front of me, so no author or publisher, but you should be able to find it. |
Yes that's it... thank you, Tom.
Red Delta: Fighting for Life at the End of the Colorado River (Paperback)
by Charles Bergman (Author)
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Barry A.
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Natalie Ann-----
-----but you know, the most amazing thing to me was that for 40+ years the Colorado river delta was "dead", and when it flooded again it almost
instantly turned into a flora and fauna wonderland--------of such profusion that it was almost impenatrable, except on the river itself------simply
wonderful the way nature can come back!! I cannot describe adaquately what the delta was like, but there was so much wildlife (especially birds) that
it was a little scary, and certainly a wonder.
Perhaps this global warming phenomena will change weather patterns to the extent that the Colorado River drainage gets abundant rainfall
again-----that is all it takes.
Who knows--------??
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sylens
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gracias, nena
fantastic photography. looks like futuristic landscapes. love the colors.
thank you for sharing.
i'm sure you will have a phenomenal trip. enjoy!
lili
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Cap and the Cabo Boys are back in USA now, can't wait to hear about their latest adventures!
every time i fly the delta route it looks different. used to take pics but long gave up on that.
cool stuff none the less tho.
like a nother planet. maybe planet Claire beyond Taragunus in the Zilstron constellation.
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Natalie Ann
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Capt. Mike.... Yes, the Boyz are back.... I got the word early in the week from one worn out piloto. He said the poker was excellent.
Nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
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Another great book about taking a canoe to the gulf, is A River No More. The river was not in flood so it didn't make it to the gulf.
My motto:
Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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What a pleasure to see! A first for me. Thanks for posting these wonderful images.
Iflyfish
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capt. mike
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ok!! then
| Quote: | Originally posted by Natalie Ann
Capt. Mike.... Yes, the Boyz are back.... I got the word early in the week from one worn out piloto. He said the poker was excellent.
Nena |
pls ask him to get the movie together and by lines so we can enjoy their trip!
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Mexitron
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Beautiful pics Natalie Ann--I tried to take some photos of that area from the plane last month as I left San Diego but the reflections were in the way
and we were a lot higher...really nice stuff, especially #3!
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Mango
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Thanks again Natalie Ann for the great photos and Barry A for all the information regarding boating in the area.
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jerry
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great pic Natalie Ann thanks fot sharing
jerry and judi
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Barry A.
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You bet, Mango.
It is almost as much fun sharing this stuff and inspiring others to do new things (hopefully) as it was doing the actual "event" in the first
place-------after all, if we don't tell others of what we have seen and done then the "event" is forgotten-----as if it never happened. That would be
a waste, it seems to me.
I constantly am getting new ideas, and targets for adventure, from the posts of others---------I love it!!!
------and, if Natalie Ann had not posted those beautiful pictures, I would not have been inspired to post my small contributions---------this NOMADS
board is the best!!!!
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