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stanburn
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Okay Bigson, I guess you got me there. You are right building a container home in a non hurricane threat area such as Cuastecomate which is about 40
miles north of Manzanillo is of no value to someone building in the East Cape area.....oh wait a minute, Cuastecoate is in a hurricane threat area.
Okay let's focus on the "RELEVANT" input.......oh yeah you haven't done that either. You have just called folks names and critized their posts.
Okay some of us old guys are sensitive. Well what is old? Being 50, living in Mexico full-time, being retired since 2002. Well you got me there as
well.
I guess I will just return to my cold Victoria and chisel some more electricity runs in my house.
Have a good evening.
Stan
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gibson
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bueno suerte (sp)
| Quote: | Originally posted by stanburn
Have a good evening.
Stan |
best of luck with the hernia
(hope OP gets sound advice)
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805gregg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gibson
| Quote: | Originally posted by stanburn
No the guy was not being a dufus. There are people in California and also here in Mexico building houses out of containers.
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wtf has california got to do with potential construction in a hurricane belt!? (BSC!!) hello??
dufus multiplicadus
the OP is looking for sound advice re construction either Todos or Barriles area!
I don't care how much 'foundation' is built. No 'modular' style construction where hurricanes come thru. sheeez
[Edited on 10-4-2007 by gibson] |
How about palapa roofs in hurricane zone?
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bajarickster
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My new place in La Paz is going to be right around $100 a foot for 2800SF. It's concrete block with curves and angles, and beautifully finished with
top of the line appliances, marble, granite counters, 12 ft ceilings, a private swimming pool, putting green, 2 car covered parking and 700 ft of
terrace, some covered. 3 bdrm, 4 bath and office. Master suite is actually 4 rooms, main bedroom, sitting room with wet bar, dressing area with all
built in cabinets and then actual bath with shower and toilet. It has a custom wet bar in living room, under cabinet lighting, dimmers on all
switches, 5 wall niches with lighting, plus full landscaping,with 2 indoor gardens with large boulders. Very modern. Only 20 units in small gated
area on the North end of the Malacon. It's up on a hill but just 1 blk to water and fantastic view of the city lights.
Whats not covered are W/D , A/C splits, and ceiling fans.
Our architech, Ulises is wonderful to deal with and if you want more info, contact our realtor, Victor Granados at www.doradoproperties.com I get emails weekly and photos. They're all straight shooters.
Our place should be done by mid Nov and we'll be spending winters there
Good Luck, Bajarickster
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gibson
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bueno
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How about palapa roofs in hurricane zone? |
good question
notice trailers under well constructed palapas do suprisingly well due to wind being able to pass thru (versus trailer out in the open)
always amazed how well costructed palapas fare!
[Edited on 10-5-2007 by gibson]
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805gregg
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I just checked, the containers are stacked up to six high on ships, and each 40' container weighs 43,000 so the bottom container is holding up 215,000
lbs. Try stacking that on your conventional home. If properly secured, you only need foundation at the four corners I think a container could stand up
to any hurricane. The container holds up 632 lb per sq ft, the heavest tile roofs weigh about 100-110 lbs per sq ft and the house has to be designed
to hold up that load. I think it's an interesting approach and re-using old containers is practical. Just saying.
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pacificobob
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containers have been used in western alaska for a long while....yes that area does experience some harsh weather....including high winds. i love the
idea of using them.
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islandmusicteach
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buying a container
Does anyone have a contact in La Paz for buying a shipping container?
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gibson
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marina
you could get a contact @ the marina. They're awesome for storage (have had in Nthn California) but I wouldn't utilise in eastcape due to heat for
several months of the year)
[Edited on 10-7-2007 by gibson]
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islandmusicteach
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video
http://www.bobvila.com/BVTV/Bob_Vila/Video-0201-03-1.html
Yeah, I'm just going to use if for storage and to practice welding on!
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Bob and Susan
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the question is...
would you like to have one of these outside YOUR window your neighbor installed in the USA???
answer...no
then WHY destroy the landscape in baja
just to "cheap-out"
if you use one of these great storage things...
you'd need to cover the "ULGY" thing with something natural looking
these are GREAT storage containers but remember...
the reason people keep comming to baja is for the "beauty"
if they wanted to look at "shipping containers" they'd vacation in Long Beach California
be responsible
ps...remember once they are "set" in place...
you DON'T get to move them around...easily
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islandmusicteach
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ugly boxes
Never fear, Bob - If I go with "the Long Beach look" I'll make it as pretty as a prom-queen, and just as hard to get into
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Al G
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Bob...with all due respect, I think you are over reacting...gringos are not going to want a ugly container setting in their yard...do you think so? My
guess the few ugly gringos that if tried it, others would complain.
I have studied the look of properly installed and covered containers and they fit with the bulk on houses and buildings in Baja now...
There are neighborhoods that a container (not finished)would not change the overall appearance.
I share your concern about containers for storages that could be left unfinished and ignored because they are for storage only. Once they are
there...they are there for a hundred years....
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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805gregg
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If you go on the internet to container homes you will see that you can't even tell they are container homes, and you can have the basic structure up
in 3 days.
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Mexitron
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The Bob Vila video said the boxes go in for $45 a sq ft, not including foundation, roof, utilities, etc...doesn't sound like in the end you're saving
that much money, if you go to the trouble of making it nice looking.
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islandmusicteach
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OK let's imagine it's for storage only:
$2000 for a 40'x8' container = 320 sq ft.
$1500 to sheath it in palo de arco
$1000 for a sand/gravel bed and four concrete corner footings for bolt down
$1900 other misc. like installation, transpo, taxes
that's still 20 bucks a square foot for a nice durable shed
heck you could put a rooftop garden on it!
OK looking forward to having this budget picked apart so I can learn a bit more... have at it!!
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805gregg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by islandmusicteach
OK let's imagine it's for storage only:
$2000 for a 40'x8' container = 320 sq ft.
$1500 to sheath it in palo de arco
$1000 for a sand/gravel bed and four concrete corner footings for bolt down
$1900 other misc. like installation, transpo, taxes
that's still 20 bucks a square foot for a nice durable shed
heck you could put a rooftop garden on it!
OK looking forward to having this budget picked apart so I can learn a bit more... have at it!! |
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805gregg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by islandmusicteach
OK let's imagine it's for storage only:
$2000 for a 40'x8' container = 320 sq ft.
$1500 to sheath it in palo de arco
$1000 for a sand/gravel bed and four concrete corner footings for bolt down
$1900 other misc. like installation, transpo, taxes
that's still 20 bucks a square foot for a nice durable shed
heck you could put a rooftop garden on it!
OK looking forward to having this budget picked apart so I can learn a bit more... have at it!! |
they are actually 8.5 ft wide and you can buy refrigerated containers with built in insulation, they all have hardwood floors. Bob Villa's price would
be for US costs which are about $ 3.00 sq. ft for finished conventional houses.
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Mexitron
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| Quote: | Originally posted by islandmusicteach
OK let's imagine it's for storage only:
$2000 for a 40'x8' container = 320 sq ft.
$1500 to sheath it in palo de arco
$1000 for a sand/gravel bed and four concrete corner footings for bolt down
$1900 other misc. like installation, transpo, taxes
that's still 20 bucks a square foot for a nice durable shed
heck you could put a rooftop garden on it!
OK looking forward to having this budget picked apart so I can learn a bit more... have at it!! |
Yep, sounds like a good sturdy shed--that's probably the most economical use for it, eh, as long as it doesn't offend the neighbors....
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islandmusicteach
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
| Quote: | Originally posted by islandmusicteach
OK let's imagine it's for storage only:
$2000 for a 40'x8' container = 320 sq ft.
$1500 to sheath it in palo de arco
$1000 for a sand/gravel bed and four concrete corner footings for bolt down
$1900 other misc. like installation, transpo, taxes
that's still 20 bucks a square foot for a nice durable shed
heck you could put a rooftop garden on it!
OK looking forward to having this budget picked apart so I can learn a bit more... have at it!! |
they are actually 8.5 ft wide and you can buy refrigerated containers with built in insulation, they all have hardwood floors. Bob Villa's price would
be for US costs which are about $ 3.00 sq. ft for finished conventional houses. |
.... I think you may be incorrect about the dimensions... it's 8' wide and that's external dimensions... also I'm a bit confused by your math, could
you clarify your sq. footage number? 
http://www.containersolutions.net/specs.htm
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