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Natalie Ann
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Well just color me embarrassed, Paula. I'm gonna have to stop beginning the tequila hour before I'm done posting.
Your photos are great - and I should have realized they were yours when I saw that photo of the guardian del viajeros - the bus angel. I've never
seen that one, but it's on my list.
I notice Don might be one of my kind... I do love to walk in cemetaries, especially at dawn. Old habit from my youth. Enjoyed the photo, thanks
Don.
[Edited on 8-25-2009 by Natalie Ann]
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
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Natalie Ann
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
Nena...that last one look's to be a warning... |
Of course it is not a warning, Al. But ya wanta be nice to me since I've added some extra power to my Guadalupe.  
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
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fdt
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Do you know aboutnthe tradition behind the Altar de muertos?
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Natalie Ann
| Quote: | Originally posted by Al G
Nena...that last one look's to be a warning... |
Of course it is not a warning, Al. But ya wanta be nice to me since I've added some extra power to my Guadalupe. |
Tell me what kind of candy do you like....
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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docsmom
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Beautiful All,
I almost never take photos. Seeing all you're sharing with me, maybe I should re-think my behavior. Your posts are lovely. Thank you.
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Mango
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I threw in a few churches as most of my good pictures of shrines are too large to post here...
All photos from the mainland
Templo Mayor, Mexico City
San Juan Chamula, Chiapas:
San Miguel de Allende, Guanajuato
Cemetery in a little town in the sierra's east of DF.
And maybe the creepiest church (Dracula's?)in Mexico, from same secret town:
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Paula
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
Do you know aboutnthe tradition behind the Altar de muertos?
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fdt, are you talking about Dia de los Muertos altars, or the shrines and altars we see in so many places? I know you have a lot of knowledge of both
of these things that I don't, and I'd like to hear what you say about both!
Mango, wonderful pictures! If I never get to travel as much as I'd like to on the mainland, Nomad photos from there are the next
best thing.
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Skipjack Joe
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Cool stuff Mango. Sort of creepy, though.
We had a neighbor here in HMB who had visited some museum on the mainland that had just stacks of human skulls, bones, and skeletons. She seemed to be
quite fascinated by it all ... the highlight of her vacation. I really don't know why Mexico had decided to preserve them and display them to
visitors. But apparently they are quite well known. Perhaps you've been there and have some images to share.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Cool stuff Mango. Sort of creepy, though.
We had a neighbor here in HMB who had visited some museum on the mainland that had just stacks of human skulls, bones, and skeletons. She seemed to be
quite fascinated by it all ... the highlight of her vacation. I really don't know why Mexico had decided to preserve them and display them to
visitors. But apparently they are quite well known. Perhaps you've been there and have some images to share. |
In Guanajuato they have a mummy exhibit---in all the times we have been there, I can't bring myself to visit the exhibit.
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Mango
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Cool stuff Mango. Sort of creepy, though.
We had a neighbor here in HMB who had visited some museum on the mainland that had just stacks of human skulls, bones, and skeletons. She seemed to be
quite fascinated by it all ... the highlight of her vacation. I really don't know why Mexico had decided to preserve them and display them to
visitors. But apparently they are quite well known. Perhaps you've been there and have some images to share. |
Yep, jdtrotter was thinking the same thing and posted while I was writing the post below:
It may have been from the town of Guanajuato. They have a mummy museum there of people they have exhumed from the local graveyard once families are
unable to pay for the space to keep them buried. (Thats the story I was told/read)
I thought, renting graves, then profiting from the the remains of poor people that got dug up because their families didn't pay was morally/ethically
wrong. So I didn't go to the museum.
Mexico has a morbid history at times; but, it is far from unique on the world stage. France and Italy, both have extensive catacombs. I am sure
there are many other cultures with stacks of skulls laying about, most recently the killing fields of Cambodia.
I have been to several ruins/museums with human remains displayed; but, none really impressed me like the video of the massive catacombs beneath Paris
that I saw on the discovery channel show "Underground: Paris". However; the Aztecs were fond of displaying skulls and skeletons in a morbid sort of
way.
[Edited on 10-20-2007 by Mango]
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Skipjack Joe
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Yes, that's it, Diane. I just googled it up. Check out this image. Can you believe it?
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
| Quote: | Originally posted by fdt
Do you know aboutnthe tradition behind the Altar de muertos?
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fdt, are you talking about Dia de los Muertos altars, or the shrines and altars we see in so many places? |
I was talking about the Altar de Muertos wich is comming up in a couple of weeks.
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Eli
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O.k., I may have figured out something very simple today. If so, than you can see the tiny Alters I have been creating over the last couple of years:
http://picasaweb.google.com/SaradeLaVos/LosNichos
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Natalie Ann
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Thanks so much Sara (Eli) for linking us to your marvelous art. As you know, I'm a big fan of your work... really enjoyed seeing this display. Thank
you so much.
To share with others, here's an piece for my altar which was made for me especially by Sara. A nena comal:
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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Natalie Ann
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Diane - I adore the little grotto on the way to your dump. Like the one in Gonzaga but different - it's the simplicity that I love.... that and the
trash.
I'm really impressed with all those photos, Mango... and I especially like the skulls, and also that photo from Chiapas.
I even find quite interesting those little mummies posted by Igor. Kinda creepy how they came to be, but I'd like to see that exhibit in person one
day.
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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Skipjack Joe
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I was just trying to give something for Diane to sleep on last night.
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toneart
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I have been to the mummy museum in Guanajuato. The mummies are not easy to look at. It struck me as to how many were children. Many were in
contemporary dress which was really disturbing. Several years ago, Werner Herzog made a vampire movie called "Nosferatu". (Dracula). When the titles
rolled in the beginning and at the end, the cameras were panning that mummy museum.
Eli, your alter art is wonderful. Here, in my other hometown...Nevada City, CA., we have an annual alter art show. I would also like to know more
about your stained (& fused?) glass art. Your prolific work in multi-media is awe inspiring.
Regarding Mango's photo of "el Perrocio"(sp?)....the Gothic cathedral in San Miguel de Allende was designed by the Spanish architect, Gaudi. His work,
mostly seen in Catalan, is very bizarre. During the Festival de San Miguel, they close off "El Jardin"...the central plaza, and let the bulls run
'round and 'round the plaza. Any idiot who wants can run with them, just like Pamplona. I climbed the wrought-iron fence in front of the cathedral and
watched. An American got gored right in front of me. I guess they always wear white shirts because the blood looks so pretty with a white background.
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Paulina
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Sara,
I like those very much, specially the one with Don Jimmy's book cover hanging on the wall of the shrine. I also like the way some seem to be in box
form with hinges, so that they can be closed for safe keeping. (If I am seeing it correctly). One question, what is the correct name for the little
charms that you are using? I have a "miracle chair" at my home that I bought from a now closed art gallery in Cantu. It is covered with these little
miracle charms, with a devil painted on the seat cushion. I would love to be able to find these charms online here in the states.
Thank you for sharing your photos.
P<*)))><
Another question, did you make the skeletons and little forms you used in your displays?
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Mango
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Natalie Ann[/i}
I'm really impressed with all those photos, Mango... and I especially like the skulls, and also that photo from Chiapas.
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Thanks, I'm glad everyone liked the photos. They were a wee bit off topic as not really "altars"
I'll try to resize and post some photos of small altars I have this weekend. Unfortunately most of my good Dia de los Muertos photos are on slide
film and located up north in the states.
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woody with a view
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small shrine on the road to "spot x". we always leave a couple candles and loose pesos for the ranchers to buy more candles (or whatever) when they
come by to leave their own offerings.
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