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Osprey
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Just don't forget to FIRST WHIP OUT YOUR CREDIT CARD AND SCRAPE OFF THE STINGING CELLS!!!!!!!! If you leave em on your skin they are still putting
out poison for hours and hours (especially in your hair or body hair).
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awfulart
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Stingrays
What an experience but most helpful info. What about dogs running in the water where there might be stingrays? Anyone had experience with that
situation? 
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BajaWarrior
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Great story Skipjack Joe. I have felt your pain. We have them big time below San Felipe right in front of our house and in the lagoon just to the
north of house.
But I got hit by a Sting Ray at Punta Gringa in L.A. Bay years ago and the hot water worked. We kept an old coffee pot full of water on our camp stove
ready for action, which turned out this time I needed.
After many hot water pourings and a couple of camp Margaritas and two hours having gone by, I put some Ointment on it, put on a bandage, socks and
shoes and we went for a quad ride back into town for tacos.
In my case, the hot water worked.
I felt your pain though...Ouch!
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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baitcast
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What a great read,Igor your a great teller of tails,sometime you and I must spend sometime sitting around a fire and tell each other sea stories and
fishing tails.
No question to clean fish on the beach with no birds to clean up is to invite these guys up close and personal.
Again what a great read from all,some funny stuff
[Edited on 11-14-2007 by baitcast]
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Sunman
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| Quote: | Originally posted by awfulart
What an experience but most helpful info. What about dogs running in the water where there might be stingrays? Anyone had experience with that
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I second this question about dogs...anybody?
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Skipjack Joe
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Glad you enjoyed it, baitcast. Yeah, those pangueros never clean their fish where they launch their boats for this very reason.
Yes, we should get together and share fish stories. They say hunters and fishermen are the biggest liars there are (well, after the politicians, that
is). The only one who really likes my tales are my kids. I, too, thought my dad was the best story teller there was.
The thread seems to work on several levels. As a true story (I wrote down exactly as it happened, even the ending). A warning of a danger that doesn't
getting get its due. An opportunity for others to share in telling their story and how they dealt with it.
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Paulina
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Sunman
| Quote: | Originally posted by awfulart
What an experience but most helpful info. What about dogs running in the water where there might be stingrays? Anyone had experience with that
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I second this question about dogs...anybody? |
This was a problem for us. Our English Mastiff Rhubarb was constantly chasing them at the shoreline. No matter how much I'd scold him, he would be
back at it again. He never got hit.
Our Bullmastiff Rosie on the other hand never asked for trouble and she stepped on one quite by accident. It wasn't a bad hit, barely got her, but she
was in pain. I soaked her paw in hot water for what seemed like a long time. It was difficult to hold her foot into the pan. Then I coated it with
Adolph's meat tenderizer. She ended up eating most of the seasoning off each time it was reapplied. She limped for a while.
Rosie just had the dumb luck because she is the one that ate a dead puffer fish as well. Good thing she was a pig and swallowed it whole, because she
threw it back up then slept for 2 days straight.
That was not a good trip for her that spring.
P<*)))><
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Al G
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Ammonia
I carry 2 gallon for this, but is it the best thing to do? On other threads it seemed to be. Is this shot Igor had, available as a first-aid item? (I
have no problem with giving myself a shot)...Suspect it is Novocaine(sp) Can we find out what it is? I would still go to a doctor as soon as I can,
but would like to avoid longer term pain...and especially for children.
Albert G
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Diver
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You can buy 5% Xylocaine ointments online from Canada without prescription.
This helps but not as good as the shots.
I would consult you doctor and ask for a syringe in a dosage that he recommends.
You will need a scrip to be safe taking it into Mexico.
Dosage for some folks and children is less than others.
Also, get the stuff without epinephrine - avoid the rushng heartbeat.
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Sunman
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Thanks Paulina. I wonder if a stronger hit could be more danergous for a normal hound? I'm sure your big honkin mastiff could absorb a sting much
better than say the average lab.
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
You can buy 5% Xylocaine ointments online from Canada without prescription.
This helps but not as good as the shots.
I would consult you doctor and ask for a syringe in a dosage that he recommends.
You will need a scrip to be safe taking it into Mexico.
Dosage for some folks and children is less than others.
Also, get the stuff without epinephrine - avoid the rushng heartbeat.
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Diver... do you think a syringe...without needle...with ammonia, sprayed into wound would be effective at cleaning the sheve deposit out?
Albert G
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Skipjack Joe
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Al,
I don't exactly know what he injected into the wound. I thought it was an antivenom drug of some sort. But the language barrier was so great that I
can't be sure. He also washed the wound prior to the shot by shooting up some liquid in there. He knew what he was doing, that was for sure. He must
have done it numerous times. Almost immediately after the shot he asked me if the pain had ceased. I didn't think it could be that fast but realized
that it was almost completely gone. The pain was gone and there was only mild discomfort left. The heel itched for about 3 weeks. I was wade fishing
again in 3 days.
The shot in the cheek was some antibiotic I believe and was for possible infection.
A small sidenote to all this. A day later we were sitting at campo rene enjoying a few sodas when a boat came up to us in the shallow lagoon. We had
been watching the mullet jump and the stingrays patrolling the shoreline.The barefoot passengers just leaped off deck onto the bottom to tie up the
boat and wade to shore. I just winced, knowing it's just a numbers game.
As an earlier poster stated, you only need to learn this lesson once.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
I am surprised that with the flexibility and weight issues that there is not a Kevlar booty out there for this kind of stuff. If there were my wife
would have be buy them in a nanosecond for my kids. |
I think you can buy surfer booties for the whole family at any large surf shop. They'll provide a lot of protection from rays and all sorts of
underwater/shoreline sharp objects. Get the ones with a big toe in them, you'll have much more agility walking around.
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torch
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I can remember running (freaked out) after steping on a ray in 1 foot of water only to step on probably a dozen more on the way to shore. I didnt get
hit, but very vivid memory. bay of L.A. 1976
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David K
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Sorry for the pain you experienced... Makes a great story, however!
Thank you for sharing.
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Having been hit by stingrays 4 times, I'm used to it - just some hot water (and cerveza) and all is well - I had a neighbor who swore that a tazer zap
would intantaneously solve the problem - he had one, but I chickened out - anybody else heard of this???? ( cure worse than the injury..)
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Skipjack Joe
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I don't know about your cure, Marv. It reminded me of the Chinese practice of 'foot clapping'. Basically, as I understand it, you slap the soles of
your feet vigorously every night to the point of redness and it's somehow supposed to make you healthier. To me the idea is to draw your attention
from one source of pain to another, thus rendering the lesser pain insignificant.
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Chi Kung Master Huang Runtian, writing in “Treasured Qigong of Traditional Medical School,” states that this “Foot Tapping Technique” …”can nourish
the liver and improve eyesight; curing chronic diseases of the liver, gall bladder and eyesight diseases (near-sighted, far-sighted, and
poor-sighted).”
“As a result of conscientious practicing of the Qigong exercise, the liver-wood nourished by sufficient kidney-water and abundant “earth Qi” would be
full of vigor and vitality. Thus the Qigong can nourish the liver and make eyes clear.”
“Frequency and duration of exercise.” Slap or clap your feet 50-100 times. For health protection, once a day before going to bed.”
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But I could be wrong. Will have to try the taser tag idea.
P.S., and of course, the proof:
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While visiting Zen-Taoist Master Hyunoong Sunim, in Washington State several years ago, I was awakened early one morning by a loud clapping. I found
out later that he was slapping his foot. I tested his eyesight a few years later, and found that he has better than 20-20 vision–his eyesight is
40-10–much better than 20-20. He can see and read the 10 foot Snellen Eye Chart at 40 feet away without glasses or contacts!
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One of the dive shops in Riverside, Ca. (probably all dive shops have them),
carry a very heavy-duty booty.
They were about $60.00 per pair.
I think we will invest in a couple of them when beach-combing in Baja
Udo
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Ken Bondy
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Sorry Igor, sounds like a horrible experience. My worst stingray experience took a little different twist, so to speak. I was surfing at Malibu
(late 50s), stepped squarely on one, and got hit bad on the arch of my right foot. Intense, instant agonizing pain. Nobody knew much about remedies
at that time (Adolfs, hot water, peeing, etc.), so I just laid down on my towel on the beach and sucked it up (I think I rubbed sand on it). As I was
sucking it up, I noticed red streaks emanating from the wound and heading up the inside of my right leg. Heading right for.....well, my crotch. The
red streaks, and the pain, got there in a few minutes and for a while I had gigantic, incredibly painful....well, cojones. I never knew that could
happen, still haven't heard anyone else who has experienced that. Eventually, like all things, the pain passed and I went back to being a teenager.
carpe diem!
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torch
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ahhh yes tazer treatment
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