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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 03:02 PM


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It really isn't that much longer to drive the free route and when traffic to Playas is bad it's actually faster.

There it is, a third opinion!




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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 03:10 PM


OK, I'll say it. I have been taking this route for years, after being stopped by mordida seeking cops on the free road almost every trip. It really stinks that it is being advertised now.:no: Another plus is it saves you all the tolls if you jump back on the pay road after Calafia.



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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 04:45 PM


On the 14th of November my buddy got up early, crossed at sunrise, and drove south to K-38 for some big waves. He got pulled over at the Playas exit going south and shook for $40 and again heading north he was pulled over and he just freaked out, yelling and screaming at these guys, and that was the very same spot, just northbound, differant cops though.

Sure hope those "talks" are going to do some good.

Where is the army? They used to be right there before the Playas exit...




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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 04:50 PM


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Where is the army? They used to be right there before the Playas exit...


All this CRAp happened after the army left. Probably the cartels sending a message.:?:




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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 07:14 PM


Since order of law means nothing and our lives are at stake, do what the rules say you can't do. Carry a loaded high power pistol on the seat next to you. The days of obeying the law are over for everybody and we can't be denied the right to protect ourselves. Those who have insisted that it is their exclusive responsibility, our protection, refuse to assume their responsibility.
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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 07:30 PM


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Since order of law means nothing and our lives are at stake, do what the rules say you can't do. Carry a loaded high power pistol on the seat next to you. The days of obeying the law are over for everybody and we can't be denied the right to protect ourselves. Those who have insisted that it is their exclusive responsibility, our protection, refuse to assume their responsibility.
Are we driving to the beach or are we going to the gas chambers?


Easy there, Hemingway. There are worse things than death.

Like maybe a Tijuana prison with a few of these perps bunking with you.............




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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 07:31 PM


This doesn't sound like a good thing...

One third of Rosarito policemen "mentally unfit" to carry guns . At least 45 percent of Rosarito’s 150 policemen did not pass the psychological profile exam that qualifies them to carry a gun, according to Police Chief Alfredo Pérez. In an interview with Frontera newspaper, Pérez indicated that this lack of proper training is a worrying situation, considering the personnel limitations and the surveillance needs of the community. He called the problem a "time bomb", because some cases cannot be solved even with professional help. The hard cases "carry a pathology that implies these people should leave the agency immediately". He also spoke about the policemen’s bad physical condition, since many are overweight and some don’t even fit inside a patrol car. In his first year as chief, he said that the agency has made a huge effort to professionalize officers and equip them properly, because there was a severe lack of funding, patrols, radios and basic training.
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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 08:13 PM


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Like maybe a Tijuana prison with a few of these perps bunking with you.............


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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 08:18 PM


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This doesn't sound like a good thing...

One third of Rosarito policemen "mentally unfit" to carry guns . At least 45 percent of Rosarito’s 150 policemen did not pass the psychological profile exam that qualifies them to carry a gun, according to Police Chief Alfredo Pérez. In an interview with Frontera newspaper, Pérez indicated that this lack of proper training is a worrying situation, considering the personnel limitations and the surveillance needs of the community. He called the problem a "time bomb", because some cases cannot be solved even with professional help. The hard cases "carry a pathology that implies these people should leave the agency immediately". He also spoke about the policemen’s bad physical condition, since many are overweight and some don’t even fit inside a patrol car. In his first year as chief, he said that the agency has made a huge effort to professionalize officers and equip them properly, because there was a severe lack of funding, patrols, radios and basic training.


Oh...Don't worry about their sad current condition. They'll shape up when mayor Torres finds a way to have them patrol the federal toll road, as he proposes. After all, you couldn't cram a fatso into a Ferrari.
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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 09:11 PM
Zap!!!!


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Since order of law means nothing and our lives are at stake, do what the rules say you can't do. Carry a loaded high power pistol on the seat next to you. The days of obeying the law are over for everybody and we can't be denied the right to protect ourselves. Those who have insisted that it is their exclusive responsibility, our protection, refuse to assume their responsibility.
Are we driving to the beach or are we going to the gas chambers?




An alternative solution.......

http://www.taser.com/Pages/VideoDetails.aspx?videoid=48




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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 09:21 PM


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An alternative solution.......

http://www.taser.com/Pages/VideoDetails.aspx?videoid=48

Thanks Terry....

Looks like a good one on one solution but, one on one doesn't seem to be the toll road scenario. Also, would you shoot a Taser at a man who had you in his pistol's sights?
I wouldn't.
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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 09:25 PM


That's why you tuck it under your left armpit and as soon as things are going south, push the button......then get out of Dodge.

Just like we talked about at dinner, I don't think these bozos are expecting the "victim" to do anything. I don't think they are ready to react to an offensive move.




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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 09:37 PM


If you're that close, things have gone as far south as they can go.

They're rarely alone. I wouldn't mind the gamble but, I would rather stay a bit back from the table like going through a clip before the car came to a stop.



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[*] posted on 11-30-2007 at 09:42 PM


That's where those 12 gauge "tube type" front and rear push bars come into play!!!!!........suprise!!!!:lol::P:lol:



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[*] posted on 12-1-2007 at 12:45 AM


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This doesn't sound like a good thing...

One third of Rosarito policemen "mentally unfit" to carry guns . At least 45 percent of Rosarito’s 150 policemen did not pass the psychological profile exam that qualifies them to carry a gun, according to Police Chief Alfredo Pérez. In an interview with Frontera newspaper, Pérez indicated that this lack of proper training is a worrying situation, considering the personnel limitations and the surveillance needs of the community. He called the problem a "time bomb", because some cases cannot be solved even with professional help. The hard cases "carry a pathology that implies these people should leave the agency immediately". He also spoke about the policemen’s bad physical condition, since many are overweight and some don’t even fit inside a patrol car. In his first year as chief, he said that the agency has made a huge effort to professionalize officers and equip them properly, because there was a severe lack of funding, patrols, radios and basic training.


:lol::lol::lol:

Yep, those innocent and naive policemen in that area can't handle a gun.

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[*] posted on 12-1-2007 at 12:08 PM


What these thugs need is some good ol Jarheads to patrol the toll road.
The BS lip service has been going on to long. It’s unbelievable that a group
of SUV's can come into Ensenada, retrieve the dead scum in the morgue and
hot foot it on the single road to Tecate and EVAPORATE. What the hell's going
on with the military or these masked, nasty looking macho guys that stand
around at the occasional check point. It's obvious who runs Baja norte and its
Not the pgi, sgr or whatever they call the various police agencies.
It’s the cartel's operating under the nose of the officials like the new mayor
of Rosarito -Torres. I don't think the officials have the huevos to do anything
but what they are told. I often wonder why Torres has not been the target
of the bad guys, hmmmmmmm? Hey Torres,take some of your real estate sales money,buy a Huey with some lights, guns and rocket launchers . And the next time someone heads out of town after
crime spree a real message could be delivered. The smoldering remains would make a great photo op.
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[*] posted on 12-1-2007 at 03:55 PM


Hi there, Bronco. welcome aboard.
Next time you post, don't sugar coat it or hold anything back....good to see someone thinks like me....well, except for the "jarhead" part...:tumble::lol::tumble:




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[*] posted on 12-1-2007 at 04:00 PM


Baja tourism meeting postponed due to rain


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Bad weather caused Baja California's incoming public security secretary Manuel Díaz Lerma to cancel a meeting in Tijuana yesterday with Baja California tourism industry representatives. They were to discuss a wave of recent attacks on U.S. visitors.
The meeting was rescheduled for Monday and will be attended by the public security secretary, Baja California tourism secretary Oscar Jesús Escobedo and representatives of the tourism industry concentrated in the Tijuana-to-Ensenada corridor.




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[*] posted on 12-1-2007 at 04:16 PM


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Baja tourism meeting postponed due to rain


UNION-TRIBUNE

December 1, 2007

Bad weather caused Baja California's incoming public security secretary Manuel Díaz Lerma to cancel a meeting in Tijuana yesterday with Baja California tourism industry representatives. They were to discuss a wave of recent attacks on U.S. visitors.
The meeting was rescheduled for Monday and will be attended by the public security secretary, Baja California tourism secretary Oscar Jesús Escobedo and representatives of the tourism industry concentrated in the Tijuana-to-Ensenada corridor.



It makes more sense then the day you take office...I was expecting just more lip service. Maybe they are thinking about it more:?:

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[*] posted on 12-1-2007 at 04:24 PM


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Or Merlot.:lol::lol:




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