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vacaenbaja
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Ever fly off the elevated Baja 1 at faster than 50mph?
50mph you may survive; going faster your more likely to become a cross on the roadway. It is not that you cannot go faster. Sure you can and for the
most part safely...until something unexpected happens. Then that oh so precious thinking/reaction time gets exponentially shortened.
Your eating up space faster than you can stop your speeding mass. Mass times the SQUARE of velocity is what you end up dealing with. In short speed
kills.
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SiReNiTa
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we actually just had a guy here...today lol that bumped in to another guy...because....tan tan tan taaaaaaaan.....there was a dog crossing the road
and the only way of not hitting the dog was to hit the other cars rear end...?????? lol...understandable as the guy works for a dog rescue center in
todos santos...member i told you about him mom????
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It is pretty dumb to have a 50 mph speed limit on straight, flat highway, in the middle of the desert. I can only imagine it as a way to bait a driver
to go faster! |
How many times have you traveled this section of road that would bring you to this conclusion?
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It is pretty dumb to have a 50 mph speed limit on straight, flat highway, in the middle of the desert. I can only imagine it as a way to bait a driver
to go faster! |
How many times have you traveled this section of road that would bring you to this conclusion? |
Since it was paved?
Oh, let's see: here were some of the trips I can recall: 1973, 1974, 1976, 1985, 2001, 2007.
Most of my trips are in Baja Norte, si, due to time limits (I am not retired or totally income independent)...
The comment applies to all straight as an arrow paved desert highways in Mexico... 50 mph is ridiculous and not very well honored, thus a good source
for income to the officials. The same is true between Mexicali and San Felipe, away from population.
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rts551
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Just wondering because there are numerous accidents on that stretch of road. Mainly from people going to fast. Lots of traffic, cows, small ranches,
and unaware tourists. Its an area I always slow down in and I travel it more than once every five years.
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shari
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YOu are correct, that stretch of highway has an extraordinarily high number of FATAL accidents..we refer to it as the baja triangle as there are so
many weird deaths on that straight stretch...I always take EXTRA caution there.
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vacaenbaja
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Your quite right Shari. As long as I can remember there is something hypnotic about that flat barren stretch of road. perhaps it is the monotony of
the seemingly never ending flat terrain makes one want to get out of there fast. I know that after a long drive coming from the south right around
twilight that stretch of the road can be quite unnerving especially if you are a bit tired. The flat terain and the poor light makes it hard on the
eyes. That" horse approaching the barn" reaction can kick right in especially if you are looking to stop in G. Negro for the night. Easy does it.
I know what David is talking about on those long baja straightaways.
Nobody seems to do the posted limit and if you did every car would be in line to pass you for miles. But once again,look at our freeways. Well lighted
and constructed and yet people still end up upside down on a straight
stretch of road where the main factor was excessive speed. Just remenber the caution posted throughout the highway "This road is not designed for high
speed driving."
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DianaT
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We have seen some really awful accidents in that area south of GN----it appears to be much safer than it is, and we travel it often.
Diane
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Al G
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It is pretty dumb to have a 50 mph speed limit on straight, flat highway, in the middle of the desert. I can only imagine it as a way to bait a driver
to go faster! |
So, David, did you keep within the speed limit there? I can't imagine that! Hah.
Bob H
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Al G
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Dk , are you sure you don't want to rethink your position...I don't have that much experience in Baja...but that run scared the crap out of me...I am
sure in a small truck the perspective is different. speed is relevant to possible danger more often then (DUH) not...I was worried more where I could
get off the road(2-4' drop off both sides) if I had a flat or power lose...not to mention if I had to make a fast correction...oh that was stated
before...to not be a marker on the road...oh that was stated before...what about big fat motorhomes like mine...should I be speeding...I guess my
problem is why? I like Baja...don't want to miss more then I have to... good nite Amigo...Albert
Albert G
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Bob and Susan
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at the exact spot that you're talking about...
i saw a BIG truck and trailer overturned last year...
no flats...
he must have swerved too fast ans the trailer went off the road
but
i ONLY drive slow beacuse of the threat of a ticket$$$$
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David K
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I have cruise control on the Toyota, so driving the speed limit was no problem... I am never careless in Mexico as the semi drivers seem to be by all
of us witnessing them flipped over on various highways. Straight, level highways have never been a problem for me and I find it intresting how some of
you guys think that is a dangerous condition! 
This speed limit thread hijack started only with a suggestion by me to stay the night at Guerrero Negro and not try to 'push it' to San Ignacio...
because the stretch was patrolled heavily by the highway federales... Just friendly advice... what I ope the originator of this thread was seeking.
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It is pretty dumb to have a 50 mph speed limit on straight, flat highway, in the middle of the desert. I can only imagine it as a way to bait a driver
to go faster! |
Actually I believe this is your comment that started it.
Speed on David
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
It is pretty dumb to have a 50 mph speed limit on straight, flat highway, in the middle of the desert. I can only imagine it as a way to bait a driver
to go faster! |
Actually I believe this is your comment that started it.
Speed on David |
Look even further up, where I mentioned the speeding tickets as another reason for staying at Guerrero Negro:
"Another reason to stay in Guerrero Negro: The highway patrol (federales) heavily cruises the highway between Guerrero Negro and Vizcaino... con
radar! That is a real tough section to drive 50 mph (80 kph) in!!!
So, no 'pushing it, speed-wise to get to San Ignacio! "
Again, just friendly advice... local resident Sirenita responed to that in agreement, you will see...
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rts551
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I will see???? I travel this route constantly. And have no problems
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
I will see???? I travel this route constantly. And have no problems |
"You will see"... IF you look up the thread to Sirenitas reply.
I had no problems either, why I can't understand the horror stories... for a straight road???
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shari
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This IS really important so PAY ATTENTION all you nay sayers...the stretch of road between Guerrero Negro although it is straight is VERY
TREACHEROUS...it is narrower, and has these weird grooves or ruts in the pavement that causes a bit of swerving, it's so straight that most people
speed ALOT, people fall asleep in it alot too, it is mesmerizing as well, hypnotizing...whatever is has is dangerous and MANY people have been killed
there so please listen to local knowledge and take extra care there.
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jorgie
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somebody on Nomads advises that when in a hole, stop diging !!!!!
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SiReNiTa
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that stretch of road is bad...i have had friends have fatal accidents, and others where they are seriously inured...i mean bad things happen everyday
and it does not matter if you know the stretch of road or not...we had a friend die on that stretch and he drove it almost every day!!! so...its not
about how well you know he road or how many times you ahve driven it...it matters to be carefull...rules are obviously made for a reason...just
because it's a straight stretch it doesn't mean it's not dangerous...so...if you don't drive 50 try 60 or 65...it gets you where you want to
be...better late than never right??
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