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JESSE
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Well, in all honesty, the northern version of the Gazette was pretty lame. They should have the style of the southern and all would be fine.
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DERN
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Bummer. Her paper was the perfect size for the bottom of our parrot cage. Gracie loved to **** all over it.
Dern
[Edited on 1-8-2008 by Hose A]
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Woooosh
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Gracie will love the Baja Times to poop on even more. Try to get her to aim for the pics of Torres!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Well, in all honesty, the northern version of the Gazette was pretty lame. They should have the style of the southern and all would be fine.
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You say: there is some valuable information in the southern edition..... roflmao 
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toneart
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I read last year that THE NEWS, an English Language newspaper out of Mexico City was starting up again after years of not publishing. It used to be
distributed widely throughout the mainland. I am wondering if it couldn't be distributed in Ensenada. Maybe even with a Baja Norte stringer
reporting.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cervisin
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Well, in all honesty, the northern version of the Gazette was pretty lame. They should have the style of the southern and all would be fine.
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You say: there is some valuable information in the southern edition..... roflmao |
There is at least one or two interesting articles (even though the reporters are too cutsie) in each issue..... and I have their telephone dialing
guide on my fridge.
CaboRon
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mikeintj
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Nancy,
If you are reading this I am very sad and disappointed that you are deciding not to carry on. It was always a fascinating read and I was often in awe
at your bravery in publishing some of the stories. Have you thought about selling it, or even allowing somebody else to edit it?
Mike.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cervisin
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Well, in all honesty, the northern version of the Gazette was pretty lame. They should have the style of the southern and all would be fine.
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You say: there is some valuable information in the southern edition..... roflmao |
I didnt say valuable, people dont read the "Gringo Gazette" for its valuable information, they read it because its fun.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
I didnt say valuable, people dont read the "Gringo Gazette" for its valuable information, they read it because its fun. |
Nancy Conroy's "Statement from the editor" was anything but fun. Invariably it was an indictment of the scummy power barons of the region, Torres in
particular. She had the balls to confront them knowing from the outset that power would prevail. She knew she couldn't last, let alone win. There
was nothing to win. She was just stateing OUR case as a good attorney and journalist is trusted to do. We have to appreciate that.
Now, that voice has been silenced. Conroy loses something but, we lose everything. We lose our voice. Torres wins.
For expats in Baja, our foundation gets more tenuous each day.
Nancy.......We will miss you.
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Baja Bernie
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Dennis
I knew that when I supported you there was a reason...........and you just explained that reason......my hand is extended should you wish to shake
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My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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DENNIS
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Thanks Bernie....Mi mano es su mano, por siempre.
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bajabound2005
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Yup, for our area the GGN was our only reliable (and I'll use that term LOOSELY) source of real news of what was happening in Mex. Even the daily
Mexican newspapers are lacking seriously for news...the GG was never the NY TImes but it gave us the real happenings in the area. And a bigger loss
is the ads; if you're looking for something -- go to the GG (classifieds and display)....You can do whatever you want with the paper, but WE will
miss it.
[Edited on 1-9-2008 by bajabound2005]
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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Al G
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You know I really don't know what to say here...I have a hard time when faced with someone giving up...it is not very likely and surely not a human
trait...I think her life or some kind of major threat has been made...to the extent she must claim it was her idea too survive.
I think we as a group should send Torres a message...How? The pulse in Baja...it is quickly becoming internet searches...Baja Nomads surely come up
very often. If we tell him we will never give up, and will work diligently to make people, that come to our site, understand that Rosarito is a
corrupt, dangerous place, not fit to visit or live in. We all have connections with other sites and could list them...
Anyone ready to do this in Spanish?
Albert G
Remember, if you haven\'t got a smile on your face and laughter in your heart, then you are just a sour old fart!....
The most precious thing we have is life, yet it has absolutely no trade-in value.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
I didnt say valuable, people dont read the "Gringo Gazette" for its valuable information, they read it because its fun. |
Nancy Conroy's "Statement from the editor" was anything but fun. Invariably it was an indictment of the scummy power barons of the region, Torres in
particular. She had the balls to confront them knowing from the outset that power would prevail. She knew she couldn't last, let alone win. There
was nothing to win. She was just stateing OUR case as a good attorney and journalist is trusted to do. We have to appreciate that.
Now, that voice has been silenced. Conroy loses something but, we lose everything. We lose our voice. Torres wins.
For expats in Baja, our foundation gets more tenuous each day.
Nancy.......We will miss you. |
Zeta is the best selling newspaper in Tijuana and the most fair and trustworthy for the past 20 years because it combines facts and reality with
interesting stories that people want to read each week. When ever i visited up north i would read the northern Gazette and compared with the southern,
it was just not as good.
I guess what i am saying is that yes, maybe she provided some interesting truth, but it wasnt packaged very well, and thats why it had to go.
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DENNIS
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Lets sleep on this one, Al. Tomorrow we can try to understand why she quit. She knows what she's doing and wouldn't want us to interfere at this
time.
I think you have a good idea.
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bajabound2005
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Anyone willing to step up to the plate and take her place? My guess is NOT!
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Zeta is the best selling newspaper in Tijuana and the most fair and trustworthy for the past 20 years because it combines facts and reality with
interesting stories that people want to read each week. |
Zeta and the Gringo Gazette were never meant to be competitors. Zeta is a highly respected newspaper with a highly respected staff, past and
present. Blancornelas was one of the very best as was his partner Hector Felix.
The GG was meant to lightly inform and entertain, fun as you previously stated. It wasn't until the corruptness of the area overwhelmed the editor,
Nancy Conroy, that she started to comment on issues that affected the whole community, Americans included. She pointed out corrupt real estate
dealers and scam businesses. It turned into a head-to-head confrontation between her and the number one offender, Torres. Now he's mayor with more
power.
Conroy has wisely opted out. Hector Felix should have done the same thing but his enemys murdered him before he could.
One more thing......I apologize for not having good to perfect Spanish but, that's what I would need to read Zeta. I struggle with reading it anyway
and appreciate its journalistic value although it's not a publication which I can comfortably read in the bathroom.
I can do that with the Gringo Gazette. Now, I'll have to go back to Bernies books.
No offense, Bernie.
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bajabound2005
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Touche, Dennis! That's what I've been trying to say and you hit it on the cabeza! We gringos (that's why is was the GRINGO gazette) could read it
and understand what the hay was going on!!!!
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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BajaGringo
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Gringo Gazette - Nancy Gone...
Contrary to popular opinion here, the Gringo Gazette is NOT gone. Nancy Conroy is gone. Also contrary to popular belief here, she was NOT run out of
town by the Torres group.
The Gringo Gazette will continue to be published by its legitimate owner, Carrie Duncan who also owns the southern edition. Nancy didn't leave for
"professional" or "personal" reasons. She left for "legal" reasons. Nancy used to be a partner with Carrie and according to court papers filed by
Carrie, Nancy fraudulently took the northern paper from her. Nancy of course denied it and it has been in the courts for the last 4 years or so. Well
the courts finally awarded the paper to Carrie and I'll just let that fact speak for itself. Bye Bye Nancy!!!
Don't believe everything you read folks...
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Zeta is the best selling newspaper in Tijuana and the most fair and trustworthy for the past 20 years because it combines facts and reality with
interesting stories that people want to read each week. |
Zeta and the Gringo Gazette were never meant to be competitors. Zeta is a highly respected newspaper with a highly respected staff, past and
present. Blancornelas was one of the very best as was his partner Hector Felix.
The GG was meant to lightly inform and entertain, fun as you previously stated. It wasn't until the corruptness of the area overwhelmed the editor,
Nancy Conroy, that she started to comment on issues that affected the whole community, Americans included. She pointed out corrupt real estate
dealers and scam businesses. It turned into a head-to-head confrontation between her and the number one offender, Torres. Now he's mayor with more
power.
Conroy has wisely opted out. Hector Felix should have done the same thing but his enemys murdered him before he could.
One more thing......I apologize for not having good to perfect Spanish but, that's what I would need to read Zeta. I struggle with reading it anyway
and appreciate its journalistic value although it's not a publication which I can comfortably read in the bathroom.
I can do that with the Gringo Gazette. Now, I'll have to go back to Bernies books.
No offense, Bernie. |
O.k. i see your point.
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