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shari
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Juan says it was the last blue fish....so what is that? Honest, it was delicious...a guest ate a whole plate! It made excellent sushi too.
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vgabndo
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If this picture turns out...I stole it from the internet, this is the fish we've taken at San Nicolas' Bay and it was called a Bonito. Absolutely
delicious. Can you say WASABE?
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Tiomiguel
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Sounds like both Diver and I could use some better luck next year. Diver lets make sure that we get out there on the good days next year to take away
that trophy for fisherman of the year from Tim.
Shari, I could not believe that came from you, it was just too profound and totally unlike you. Ha.
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
I just find it incredible that Shari reports eating a black skipjack. I have had friends who were really hardcore fish eaters find it almost
impossible to do anything palatable with true black skipjack.
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That's my experience too - but I've been told that there are Sushi restaurants that use Black Skipjack to make poke. Never tried it myself, but then
again, mackerel is considered a delicacy. Can you imagine eating mackerel? 
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pescador
I have had friends who were really hardcore fish eaters find it almost impossible to do anything palatable with true black skipjack.
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I find that many, if not most hardcore fishermen don't like to eat fish. Like my neighbor. He catches all the fish and his wife eats all the fish. She
never fishes.
Many black skipjacks lack the dots entirely and people mistakenly think they're bonito. I have never caught a bonito in the cortez.
Raw mackerel is served in many sushi bars. They're all right if eaten say once a week. Smoked or marinated mackerel on the other hand is absolutely
delicious. I buy them at the deli.
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Osprey
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This year, for the first time I can remember, when the sierra were leaving, only a few being caught along our shore (about a month ago) we were
visited by great numbers of bonito -- the big-teeth, white meat kind. Locals loaded up when and where they could. All my gringo neighbors were trying
different recipes. At our house we found the filets make excellent fish and chips, tasty fish soup. Nobody in east cape that I've ever encountered,
including all my Mexican neighbors, eats barrilette. Some of my best days out there were pulling light gear through feeding schools of the purple meat
fighters being careful how we released them.
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Cardon Man
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
This year, for the first time I can remember, when the sierra were leaving, only a few being caught along our shore (about a month ago) we were
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Osprey...just curious, had you not caught the Eastern Pacific Bonito ( Dientona, in Spanish ) at the East Cape in the past or just not in such great
numbers? I agree they are fine food fish. I enjoy the sashimi as much or more than good YFT.
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Cardon Man
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Many black skipjacks lack the dots entirely and people mistakenly think they're bonito. I have never caught a bonito in the cortez.
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Skipjack...That's interesting. What areas of the Cotez do you fish? Perhaps the literature is true in saying that the Eastern Pacific bonito doesn't
range north of La Paz.
I'm not sure of the supposed range of the Mexican or striped bonito.
My experience on the Cortez has been largely limited to the East Cape area and no farther north than Isla Cerralvo with only an occasional foray to
Loreto. While I've never loaded up on bonito at East Cape I can say for sure I pick up a few each year. I lust after those fish so their catches are
always noteworthy!
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Pompano
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Skipjack - Barrilette
I have an old friend who moved from Mexico City to Mulege over 25 years ago...Miguel. With his wife, Claudia, he owns La Tienda, a popular sports
clothes and gift store in downtown Mulege. Previously they ran Baja Divers (Cortez Explorers) for many years...a diving/fishing charter service.
Here Miguel is posing a hook-up on his Skipjack...of course he named it ..'Barrilette.'
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Pescador
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Well, as close as I can tell, Cardon Man is the closest to using the actual scientific names and it is easy to see where the confusion comes from.
The Eastern Pacific Bonito, Sarda Chilensis Lineolata, is the rarest of the tuna and does only show on the Pacific side and up to La Paz. What
everyone in the Santa Rosalia area refers to as bonita or bonito is actually the White Skipjack or Katsuwonus Pelamis. The Black Skipjack or
Barrilete or Euthynnus Lineatus, is the dark meated member which is abundant in the Sea of Cortez as well as the Pacific side.
Last season, some of the guys at Mulege started reporting catching "Blue Tuna" and San Marcos Mike and I were going nuts trying to figure out what
this fish was. We finally discovered that they were referring to Pacific Skipjack.
It becomes easy to identify a certain fish by its characteristics but the real challenge is to match that up with what the scientists are referring
to with a specific species. The local fishermen add to this confusion as they communicate with each other about a certain fish but the challenge
comes when they try to communicate with fishermen from another area.
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shari
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So I still don't know what it was...that yummy fish no one eats...Juan said it was a really weird fish and he'd never caught one...so maybe rare
here???
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Whatever you call them, they are all good bait for marlin and big yellowfin.
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Osprey
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Cardon, My wife (up until now) would only cook yellowfin of all the tuna types here so I released all the other types so maybe I missed ID ing a few
Bonito of the type discussed. Only this year were they here in such numbers and I heard that from lots of Mexican and gringo fishermen. It is doubling
confusing because at times I think we do get a few kawakawa and also some of my gringo neighbors say "caught a mess of small tuna near the shore". Now
I just check for big mean teeth to be sure.
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Osprey, sorry about the loss of your wife. Couldn't help it...it just came out!
Iflyfish
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Osprey
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No, she's still with me. She likes what I do around the house. She says "Jorge, he's a piece of work."
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bajamigo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
So it's back to the rockpile this week for Juan...to work on our rock suite at our place at the point...no more fishing for a bit.
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Not a bad-looking rock pile....
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Here is another one of Juan and his "Rock Pile"
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Iflyfish
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Osprey
"She says "Jorge, he's a piece of work."
She is right!
Nice wall there Juan. That man is an artist!
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
Neat story. I thought bonita and jack were kinda boney - never ate one of them before. Always used to bury them around fruit bearing trees for
fertilizer...
Hey, I'd love to know the brand of the cigar that was lit! 
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The Bonita made pretty good sushi.
Another favorite is to soak the steaks in teriaki for an hour before barbequeing - yummy. And not too many bones.
The baruleta (Juan's pronunciation) was more similar to a tuna or large YT - very good sushi !!
I was fully stocked with Macanudos for the trip south !!
My source is Mike's Cigars . com
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Tiomiguel
Sounds like both Diver and I could use some better luck next year. Diver lets make sure that we get out there on the good days next year to take away
that trophy for fisherman of the year from Tim.
Shari, I could not believe that came from you, it was just too profound and totally unlike you. Ha. |
HAHAHA
I can't wait to go chase some fish with you again !!
BTW, anyone who hasn't met Shari's Tio is missing something special. He and Juanita are 2 of the nicest and brightest folks we have met in a long
time. They helped make the holidays a great time in Asuncion !!
I just got back to the US but will post some trip reports soon.
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