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Ken Cooke
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8946
Registered: 2-9-2004
Location: Riverside, CA
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Mood: Pole Line Road postponed due to injury
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Our problem was scoping out a route which wasn't dominated by huge brush since the wash was filled with large rocks, dropoffs, and thorny brush. It
could be negotiated, but it also looked like a bit of work and dedication.
I drove up the south side of the arroyo (not advisable), and up a dry waterfall. The lava rock was so sticky, my Jeep went up it, lifted the
passenger tire straight in the air, and I nearly flopped it on my drivers side. This is without using my lockers. Keep an eye on this, since
traction can also bring trouble if you're not careful.
This outcropping is not as tippy as it appears from behind the drivers seat. Mike actually lifted a tire here with his swaybar disconnected up front.
Further up from the outcropping (coming from the Coco's Corner road), you will see this interesting dropoff. Spotting is never a bad idea, especially
with the terrain here..
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XRPhlang
Nomad
Posts: 111
Registered: 10-12-2007
Location: Central Coast
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Mood: Taco me.
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I've been wanting to ride the mine road for a couple of years. A year ago on a ride to Gonzaga I found the end where it meets the hwy, but I was solo
and didn't want to risk it. I would love to join up with you guys. My question is do you have a problem with a bike tagging along?
What's the plan for Fri. & Sat. Is the group going to camp, go back to Baja Cactus, stay in Gonzaga??
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David K
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Posts: 64852
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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I am sure a m/c along would be a great thing for the four wheelers, as you could scout a route.
'steekers' was down there last weekend and said he was going to use the Turquesa grade to go up to Santa Ynez and back from Gonzaga Bay... So, we are
waiting for his report.
Kacey Smith's Baja GPS Guide says that m/c track stays to the right (north) side of the arroyo to avoid shrubs, but has to work through boulders.
Autos can get through brush better than they can through boulders, so that would mean they need to work up the middle or the left (south) side of the
arroyo valley/ canyon...?
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Gadget
Senior Nomad
Posts: 851
Registered: 9-10-2006
Location: Point Loma CA
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Mood: Blessed with another day
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Thanks for your call last night Roy (sqcrcl). You sure have your elastic waste band, one size fits all cargo pants in a bunch about this deal  .
Seriously, I would love to bring GSB and help out but finances are very tight for us right now. Leslie has the budget locked down pretty tight
thankfully, or I would have us in even more stress 
So, and I'm fishing here, if anyone out there would like to co-dog with me on this and share fuel expenses, there may be a possibility that Les could
be convinced to let me go, and Roy would stop calling and bugging me. I've asked him to just call Leslie and lobby for me, but he's scared of her
too. 
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
See you in Baja
http://www.LocosMocos.com
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David K
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Posts: 64852
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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Wil, in GSB or my Tacoma (if I can swing it)?
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Gadget
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Location: Point Loma CA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Wil, in GSB or my Tacoma (if I can swing it)? |
I think Roy wants the 4 wheels with power and the 9500i winch of GSB down there.
You know this work, or lack thereof, deal just sucks 
What I need is a professional life sponsor so I can just do what I like. Anyone!!! 
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
See you in Baja
http://www.LocosMocos.com
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Hook
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Registered: 3-13-2004
Location: Sonora
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You know this work, or lack thereof, deal just sucks
What I need is a professional life sponsor so I can just do what I like. Anyone!!! |
Too bad you aren't a different sex and marital status. I've seen that worked to perfection here in SoCal.
[Edited on 4-11-2008 by Hook]
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Gadget
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Registered: 9-10-2006
Location: Point Loma CA
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
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You know this work, or lack thereof, deal just sucks
What I need is a professional life sponsor so I can just do what I like. Anyone!!! |
Too bad you aren't a different sex and marital status. I've seen that worked to perfection here in SoCal.
[Edited on 4-11-2008 by Hook] |
No one will ever be able to convince that I didn't marry up. I married my "sugar momma" for reasons other than money though. 
And please keep your thoughts clean, that isn't what I meant.... entirely 
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
See you in Baja
http://www.LocosMocos.com
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64852
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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You did good Will!
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TMW
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Location: Bakersfield, CA
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David come on down in your Tacoma and I'll follow you in from the west side. Bring long tow straps just in case.
[Edited on 4-12-2008 by TW]
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Ken Cooke
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8946
Registered: 2-9-2004
Location: Riverside, CA
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Mood: Pole Line Road postponed due to injury
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David,
Bring a 2nd spare tire just in case. That terrain is tough on tires, and theres lots of thorny stuff to contend with...
-Ken
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David K
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Location: San Diego County
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
David,
Bring a 2nd spare tire just in case. That terrain is tough on tires, and theres lots of thorny stuff to contend with...
-Ken |
Thanks Ken, but I don't have a second spare.... I have NEVER used the one spare under my truck as I have never had a flat with this Toyota on any of
the three brands of tires that have been on it (BFG, COOPER, TOYO).
Anyway, if I went it would be as co-pilot in Gadget's GSB Bronco...
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Ken Cooke
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8946
Registered: 2-9-2004
Location: Riverside, CA
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Mood: Pole Line Road postponed due to injury
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In November, we had to pull thorns out of the sidewall of the Tacoma that is pictured here. It was totally unexpected, but due to a little driver
error, and the really tight nature of this trail, circumstances happened.
I was thinking primarily about your vehicle's bolt pattern and the interchangeability with other participating vehicles. Viva Baja!
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TMW
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Location: Bakersfield, CA
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The Tacoma is a 6 lug pattern that's a little closer together than a GM vehicle. I've got a spare toyota wheel but the tire is a 31x10.50x15 inch.
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Gadget
Senior Nomad
Posts: 851
Registered: 9-10-2006
Location: Point Loma CA
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Mood: Blessed with another day
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
David come on down in your Tacoma and I'll follow you in from the west side. Bring long tow straps just in case.
[Edited on 4-12-2008 by TW] |
Still not officially committed to this but I think this is a great idea.
Crews from both sides with radio comm and GPS to clearly identify location and then meeting in the middle will have the best chance of success IMHO.
"Mankind will not be judged by their faults, but by the direction of their lives." Leo Giovinetti
See you in Baja
http://www.LocosMocos.com
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Ken Cooke
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8946
Registered: 2-9-2004
Location: Riverside, CA
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Mood: Pole Line Road postponed due to injury
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gadget
| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
David come on down in your Tacoma and I'll follow you in from the west side. Bring long tow straps just in case.
[Edited on 4-12-2008 by TW] |
Still not officially committed to this but I think this is a great idea.
Crews from both sides with radio comm and GPS to clearly identify location and then meeting in the middle will have the best chance of success IMHO.
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That's a great plan. Pinpoint the trouble spots, zero in, and create a route that works to get from Hwy 1 to Coco's on the dirt using 4 wheels.
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The squarecircle
Nomad
Posts: 173
Registered: 11-28-2004
Location: El Cajon
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Mood: 'Baja Feeling'
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La Turquesa Trek
| Quote: | Originally posted by The squarecircle
| Quote: | Originally posted by Gadget
Maybe.
Which direction do you plan on going in from?
Accomodations and supplies are better on the Hwy 1 side, but it may be easier to go up then to go down so Gonzaga would be base camp? [/quot
Greetings All,
A special thank you to those NOMADS responding to the La Turquesa Trek. - BAJACAT/Fatboy/TW/ bajalou/Steve&ebby/
Neal Johns/Gadget/David K.
1-- May 1, Thursday. Leave San Diego am head for El Rosario
and Baja Cactus Motel. Reservation required. Telephone
011-52(616)165-8700.
2-- May 2--3 Friday & Saturday. Drive M-1 to Laguna Chapala
>>> Coco's Corner >>> Las Arrastras de Arriola >>> La
Turquesa mine site >>> into the arroyo to start way-find-
ing and westward progress!
3-- May 4 Sunday. Celebrate the accomplishment and head
Home.
Regards, sq. |
Greetings All, >>>> BUMP this please!! >>>>Regards, sq. |
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steekers
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I just emailed DK a bunch of photos of the wash. I took them last Sunday from the rocks above the mine so all of you going could get a view from above
the wash. I hope they help.
I didn't make it all the way up the grade on my XR400 as my fuel and time ran out. Had to ride back to San Felipe and get home for work the next day.
Hope all of you going have a good time!
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64852
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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STEEKERS PICS
Two photos show both the valley and then the grade up the mountain, from the turquoise mine... Steekers didn't say why his trip to Santa Ynez was
cancelled, but we all know how Baja can be... She doesn't give up her secrets easily!!!
Thanks Michael for going to the mine and getting the great photos that clearly show the grade coming down the mountain from Hwy. 1!
Photo A, shows the canyon/ valley from the mine to the mountain side... the grade is on the right in the background:
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David K
Honored Nomad
Posts: 64852
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: San Diego County
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Mood: Have Baja Fever
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PHOTO 'B'
Here is a close up of the grade... reduced for Nomad posting. If any of the La Turquesa road building crew wants the full size image, let me know!
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