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Baja Bernie
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Hook
Been a while since I was a cop--but I doubt that they have SWAT patrol the streets for domestic shootings.
http://sandiego.cox.net/cci/google
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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TonyC
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
| Quote: | Originally posted by Santiago
The army in Tijuana said it was on high alert for reprisals against soldiers and federal police following the shootout and the ensuing arrest.
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Somehow I don't get the relevance of these statements. If the shootout was just between the cartels own factions, why would that result in reprisals
against the cops, unless they were somehow involved in the trade.
[Edited on 4-27-2008 by vandenberg] |
Maybe cause the feds. have live talking prisoners, as oppose to dead bodies? I hope the feds. gets them (prisoners) to rat out the bad cops, and or,
whoever else.
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bacquito
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I am surpised that the San Diego Union has not reported the shoot out as of 04-27.
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awfulart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bacquito
If only we could reduce the demand for drugs in the USA and stop the flow of guns into Mexico. I was glad to read recently of a large gun bust
occurring in Arizona-Mexico was happy.
The trouble with turf wars between drug gangs is that the wars do kill innocent people and law enforcement personel. |
Anyone who uses illegal drugs, casual or extensive, contributes to the problem. Where do the gangs in the U.S. & Mexico get their money? It is
through the sale of drugs and other illegal activities. We have always had gangs but since illegal drugs and illegal immigration have become so
prevalent, the gangs have proliferated.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bacquito
I am surpised that the San Diego Union has not reported the shoot out as of 04-27. |
They did:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20080426-1...
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Baja Bernie
Been a while since I was a cop--but I doubt that they have SWAT patrol the streets for domestic shootings.
http://sandiego.cox.net/cci/google |
We are on the same side of the discussion, Bernie.
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pargo
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....I think it's safe enough now to go back to baja...yeah sure
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vandenberg
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Somehow I don't get the relevance of these statements. If the shootout was just between the cartels own factions, why would that result in reprisals
against the cops, unless they were somehow involved in the trade.
[Edited on 4-27-2008 by vandenberg] |
Past history shows that the cartel attacks hospitals to free prisoners .
In the past 18 months there have been several attacks on TJ hospitals to free wounded cartel members.
My stepson and his partner were involved in guarding a prisoner at a TJ hospital last year and came under attack during that time.
One of his friends was killed during that fight.
Regardless of the poor wording of the press release the danger is real. |
Thanks Gene.
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Iflyfish
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Hose A,
Hope your step son ok. I honor him and his comrades. There are wonderful and brave people involved trying to end this horrible crisis. It saddens me
greatly to read of the "colllatoral damage", always broken hearts and lives in that.
I too doubt that this will end till prohibition repealed and the profits removed and non punative treatment provided.
Saying that we can eradicate consumption to address this issue is focusing on the wrong issue and will not stop this giant whack a mole game. Changing
our minds about how we view this problem is sorely needed. There are models in Europe about how to address this that are very successful, Holland is a
good example. In the mean time my heart goes out to the family and friends of the good guys in this, who are doing their heroic jobs in a very
dangerous enviorment.
Iflyfish
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by awfulart
Anyone who uses illegal drugs, casual or extensive, contributes to the problem. Where do the gangs in the U.S. & Mexico get their money? It is
through the sale of drugs and other illegal activities. We have always had gangs but since illegal drugs and illegal immigration have become so
prevalent, the gangs have proliferated. |
Ten Cuidado, Art. I've have been down that road of a discussion point and dismissed as being anti American by some of the blowhards.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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Santiago
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Story actually made the Sacramento Bee this morning. First Baja news I can recall they've ever printed.
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fulano
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Llega a 16 muertes guerra de "narcos"
[The total rises to 16 dead in narco war in TJ]
Tijuana, B.C. - Ya suman 16 los sicarios que han muerto a raíz del enfrentamiento armado entre grupos delictivos registrado la madrugada del sábado en
el bulevar Insurgentes. Dos de ellos murieron en los hospitales donde eran atendidos.
Personal del Hospital General confirmó que dos hombres que habían resultado heridos después de participar en la balacera, murieron a primeras horas
del domingo debido a complicaciones.
Elementos del Servicio Médico Forense (Semefo) acudieron al nosocomio el domingo por la mañana para recoger los cuerpos, los cuales no han sido
identificados oficialmente, sin embargo se mencionó que tenían entre 20 y 23 años.
Testigos de la balacera afirmaron que sobre la Vía Rápida Poniente, a la altura del panteón Monte de los Olivos, se encontraba el cuerpo ya sin vida
de otro hombre, aunque momentos después un grupo de sicarios se lo llevó.
Las personas, junto con los oficiales que resguardaban el cadáver, fueron amagados por los hombres con armas largas, subieron el cuerpo al vehículo en
el que viajaban y se dieron a la fuga.
Por tal motivo se presume que el número de pistoleros que perdieron la vida en el enfrentamiento pudiera ser mucho mayor; no obstante, la Procuraduría
General de Justicia del Estado (PGJE) señaló que sólo tiene contemplados 13 cuerpos.
Con respecto a la identificación de las personas que murieron el sábado, las autoridades aseguraron que hasta el momento continúan en calidad de
desconocidos en las instalaciones del Semefo.
En ese orden, se desconoce si uno de los cuerpos encontrados corresponde al de Raybel López Uriarte, “El Muletas”, líder de una célula del Cártel de
los Arellano Félix, información que se dio a conocer desde el día de los hechos.
Saldo rojo
-14 personas muertas fue el saldo preliminar de la balacera el sábado
-2 más murieron en el Hospital General a consecuencia de las heridas
-8 personas fueron detenidas, sin que hasta el momento se conozcan sus identidades
-21 vehículos baleados fueron decomisados
http://elvigia.net/noticias/?seccion=generales&id=43006
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fulano
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They found another body this morning at Punta Bandera which bore the message "traitor".
"Esta mañana fue encontrado el cuerpo de una persona sin vida a la altura de Punta Bandera; el cadáver presentaba un mensaje con la leyenda
“traicionero”.
El hallazgo fue realizado a las 7:00 horas en Punta Bandera y hasta el momento las autoridades no han dado a conocer más información. El cuerpo al
parecer se encontraba envuelto en una sábana y tenía una cartulina con la palabra “traicionero” escrita en ella.
Se desconoce si la víctima fue ultimada por impacto de bala o golpes así como si tenía relación con la balacera registrada el sábado pasado por la
madrugada."
http://www.frontera.info/EdicionEnLinea/Notas/Noticias/28042...
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surfer jim
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Channel 7 (LA) carried a story tonight about the shootout on the 5 o'clock news....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaWarrior
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Good. Let the war begin. That's the only way this problem will be resolved. |
Unfortunately the innocent get caught in the crossfire... |
Exactly right. When I lived in LA during the mid-80's the Blacks and Mexican gangs were killing each other off like crazy (still are I think). Those
not involved figured they'd killl each other off eventually. Problem still is that innocents get caught in the crossfire and theere are more of these
c-ckroaches than there are bullets.
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