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Paula
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I'm sure Miss Valentine meant well, but what happens when the shoes wear out?
How long will the 800 pairs of shoes last for the children who need them? It seems cruel to me to give them shoes and have them suffer the pain and
blisters of becoming accustomed to them, only to have them wear out before a permanent solution to shoelessness is found. And then they experience
going without on feet that have softened from a few months of comfort.
So until a political solution is found for the many problems and injustices of deep poverty, maybe it is better to bring blankets and jackets, or to
work for a more permanent end to economic suffering.
Of course this probably wasn't the thought process of the Mexican customs official.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
It seems cruel to me to give them shoes and have them suffer the pain and blisters of becoming accustomed to them, only to have them wear out before
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The only permanent solution these people will see is the end of the world. I hope it comes after the shelf life of used shoes.
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jodiego
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I kind of feel the same way about bicycles. We give these children bikes and they have no resources to fix them when they start to fall apart, and
believe me they will fall apart. And usually, helmets are not included in the giving. I used to work at a childrens center and we would get bikes
donated all the time. BUT, we had a volunteer group come in once a month to fix them, and they could barely keep up with the maintenance. We were
also lucky enough to get helmets donated too.
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David K
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Presents given at Christmas don't always last forever... Not sure why the shoes, bikes, clothes are any different?
To experience someones kindness is a good thing and can have lasting effects... teaches the wealth of giving and not of just receiving. 
To have loved and lost is better than to not ever have loved at all... someone once said!
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bajabound2005
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jodiego
I kind of feel the same way about bicycles. We give these children bikes and they have no resources to fix them when they start to fall apart, and
believe me they will fall apart. And usually, helmets are not included in the giving. I used to work at a childrens center and we would get bikes
donated all the time. BUT, we had a volunteer group come in once a month to fix them, and they could barely keep up with the maintenance. We were
also lucky enough to get helmets donated too. |
The kids for the Nomad bike project have all received helmets. Each "camp" has been given a repair kit for tires. And we have someone out there
teaching them how to make needed repairs.
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Hook
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This is incredible. Too poor to replace the items given them, so dont give them at all?????
What about food donations for the poor? Wont they eventually EAT the food and then it will be gone and they may not get any for a while? Better to let
them starve?
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Paula
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
This is incredible. Too poor to replace the items given them, so dont give them at all?????
What about food donations for the poor? Wont they eventually EAT the food and then it will be gone and they may not get any for a while? Better to let
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In my post I was refering only to shoes. Going barefoot isn't ideal, but if you have to do it it may be better to do it consistently, keeping the
feet hardened and conditioned to harsh conditions. It is really painful walking barefoot when your feet are softened by months of not having to do
it. So food, clothing, bycycles, books, toothbrushes, toys-- go for it! Just be careful about shoes unless you're willing to provide a long term
supply of them.
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mulegemichael
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I have been bringing down new shoes now for many many years and am sure they total in the thousands of pairs; I have a very benevolent friend that has
many stores and he donates them to me...right now he has 600 pairs of new shoes that I will attempt to smuggle in when I drive down in three weeks. I
will not try to hide this fact. NO ONE can convince me that donating shoes to folks that don't have any is not good..that is CRAZY! Get a grip on
reality!
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sd
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mulegemichael -
Great thing you are doing. I am sure most everyone there appreciates your efforts.
Nice of your friend to be so generous!
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DENNIS
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Paula had a good point. It would have made more sense had she referred to Tahiti but, her thoughts were in the right place. There are lots of ways
to look at this human tragedy.
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jodiego
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jodiego
I kind of feel the same way about bicycles. We give these children bikes and they have no resources to fix them when they start to fall apart, and
believe me they will fall apart. And usually, helmets are not included in the giving. I used to work at a childrens center and we would get bikes
donated all the time. BUT, we had a volunteer group come in once a month to fix them, and they could barely keep up with the maintenance. We were
also lucky enough to get helmets donated too. |
The kids for the Nomad bike project have all received helmets. Each "camp" has been given a repair kit for tires. And we have someone out there
teaching them how to make needed repairs. |
That's awesome Bajabound, keep up the great work.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Presents given at Christmas don't always last forever... Not sure why the shoes, bikes, clothes are any different?
To experience someones kindness is a good thing and can have lasting effects... teaches the wealth of giving and not of just receiving.
To have loved and lost is better than to not ever have loved at all... someone once said! |
Here you go David,
From Alfred Lord Tennyson's poem In Memoriam:27, 1850:
I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it, when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.
Have a great day!
CaboRon
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Eugenio
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Go to any of the mini storage facilities on the border and just start asking around how to pass things with out paying - you'll find the person to
talk to - a pickup full should cost you about $50. Check points further down are another story.
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