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Capt. George
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just keep the club with you on your trip...
for the banditos and if your wife should wake up!
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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bancoduo
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Put a paper bag over her head. It worked for my crazy aunt.
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Osprey
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I've had some harrowing trips. When I reached a likely place to stay I always made sure we had first class accomodations because I needed a safe place
to unwind.
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Osprey
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You can't imagine what I've been through on the way down. Sometimes they would even give me tope duty.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ears
I'm trying to plan a trip down Baja with my two sons (ages 7 and 4)to Scorpion Bay where I will meet a group of other families. She is deadly afraid
that the drive is too dangerous and risky, the road is often shut down, and that the truck (2007 Pathfinder) will breakdown. Honest opinions needed
to put her at ease (or honest replies that it could be to dangerous for children.) |
The road is rarely shut down, maybe once or twice in many, many years after a hurricane or something like a strike protest. Shutdowns no more
frequent than roads in the US.
Re driving conditions, the road is no more dangerous than rural 2-lane roads in the US. Pay attention and you will be safe, and drive in daylight so
you can see what's ahead, and drive at a sane speed. Shoulder widths are less than you are acustomed to, so need to pay attention. At nite your
greatest risk is hitting livestock or coming upon a curve traveling too fast because of limited visibility -- so for this reason you should not drive
at nite.
Re banditos, very safe driving in day time, very rarely dangerous to drive at nite (but you won't be driving at nite simply for visibility issues).
A 2007 model car will break down? Can't imagine anything more reliable than a late model car -- but here is your excuse to buy a new car, if you want
such an excuse 
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Capt. George
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I had to do "dopey doody"..Osprey, think you had it rough?
\"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men\" Plato
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BMG
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
You can't imagine what I've been through on the way down. Sometimes they would even give me tope duty. |
At first glance I thought those were skid marks leading up to your human tope. On closer inspection I see that the marks are from someone burning
rubber during acceleration.
I think the world is run by C- students.
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Pompano
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Tell your wife.....
Adventure/Life? is not for riding shetlands...get a spirited stallion.
Ride, boldy, Ride!, the Shade replied, if you search for El Dorado...
Do a bunch of searching here and find out lots of facts...
..and lastly...Baja Dress Code is important.
[Edited on 5-21-2008 by Pompano]
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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RockhouseTom
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Only three very important saftey rules:
1) Do not drive at night.
2) Do Not Drive At Night.
3) DO NOT DRIVE AT NIGHT!
Go and enjoy. I have an Autistic 13 year old son and Baja is his paridise. Baja provides life lessons for all the kids I have been envolved with
there. My family has seen the good and the bad in Baja and there is no place we rather go. Use common sense and have Fun! Baja is a beautiful
place, but the people you meet make it special.
\"FREEDOM\" William Wallace
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bajalera
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Get her some maps and appoint her Navigator, wkth the responsibility of keeping track of where you are.
Bring a good brand of lemon drops.
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
As long as you're the type of man that is willing and able to physically protect his family and personal belongings- go for it. If you can't honestly
see yourself getting through a tough situation on the road- head somewhere else.
With several police Chiefs heading to the USA for protection and the Mexican Army taking control of some towns on the mainland, yor wife is justly
concerned. Concerned should mean paralyzed with fear though. JMHO |
For the trip, the greatest danger is from those who tell you Baja is too dangerous especially around Rosarito Beach. It is extremely dangerous to pay
attention to these people because they live in Playas de Rosarito. That is known as Baja-hypocrisy can lead to a shortened life span.
If she believes she is in mortal danger - all of you stay home or she stays home.
�I won\'t insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said.� William F. Buckley, Jr.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by The Gull
For the trip, the greatest danger is from those who tell you Baja is too dangerous especially around Rosarito Beach. It is extremely dangerous to pay
attention to these people because they live in Playas de Rosarito. That is known as Baja-hypocrisy can lead to a shortened life span.
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If you comprehend any part of the above, your level of understanding will handle anything Baja throws at you.
[Edited on 5-22-2008 by DENNIS]
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Aventurera
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I'm a fairly youngish woman and I've driven down alone (through Tijuana even) as recently as March with no problems and no scary moments whatsoever.
However, I also spent a summer in Colombia in '99 when things were quite dangerous for Americans there and in Sinaloa last month when things got
crazy, so I'm not one to relate well to the less adventurous. 
Honestly, though, it's just not a scary place for Americans. Things seem much scarier reading the news sitting on this side of the border about all
the goings-on down there than they do when one is actually there. Being there, it's easy to forget that all the border violence is happening. Life
goes on quite peacefully...as long as you're not in the drug trade, I suppose.
[Edited on 5-22-2008 by Aventurera]
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oxxo
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EARS, just have your wife PM one of the women who have responded to this thread, there are some good ones. They can give your wife the women's
perspective rather than the macho approach by us guys.
My wife and I drive the Tecate/Los Cabos route 4 roundtrips a year. We don't caravan, we go by ourselves. Wife is completely comfortable and does a
lot of the driving. We are doing it again in two weeks. She can't wait to get started.
Just follow the advice in the posts above.
Suerte
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Aventurera
Life goes on quite peacefully...as long as you're not in the drug trade, I suppose.
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There are a lot of peaceful, drug-free people who will disagree with your appraisel. Since there are no designated danger zones, the whole place
reeks with unseen danger for everybody. Not just tourists, everybody. And, pleeeeze, those inclined to compare the conditions with those in the
US.....save it. That is not the point.
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rts551
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Dennis
This means you have first hand knowledge of the "whole place"?
And Plezzzzzze why don't you just go back north!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Aventurera
Life goes on quite peacefully...as long as you're not in the drug trade, I suppose.
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There are a lot of peaceful, drug-free people who will disagree with your appraisel. Since there are no designated danger zones, the whole place
reeks with unseen danger for everybody. Not just tourists, everybody. And, pleeeeze, those inclined to compare the conditions with those in the
US.....save it. That is not the point. |
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
And Plezzzzzze why don't you just go back north!
Yeah...I'll do that when I get around to it. In the meantime, why don't you mordame.... |
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Aventurera
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
why don't you mordame.... |
 Umm, grammar police: muérdeme
Going onto a grammar tangent, "por qué no me muerdes" would be the proper translation, but it doesn't sound very colloquial and "me muerdes" wouldn't
fit well into the English grammatical structure. So I think it would have to be "why don't you morderme..." 
Spanglish is rather tricky!
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[Edited on 5-22-2008 by Aventurera]
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John M
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Don't drive at night?
I see this "warning" several times in this reply to your question.
It seems to convey a sense of danger from who knows what? - lurcking in the shadows and ready to pounce on the unknowing Americans traveling Highway 1
at night.
It certainly is my recollection that in years past this advice had nothing to do with banditos but everything to do with the fact that almost all of
Baja is "open range" cattle country. And that the danger at night is from cattle wandering onto the highway at the most inopportune times -
no shoulder on the road, narrow roadways, etc.
No matter the reason - driving at night is dangerous. But let's not get overly paranoid with this "bad guy" hysteria that permeates the news lately.
My wife and young kids regularly drove the roads to Ensenada with never an issue of any kind. That was a few years ago but we'd do it again today as
well.
We all long for the "good ol' days" whether we live in California, Baja California, or Oregon. Just keep in mind that tomorrow will be the "good ol'
days" twenty years from now!
John M
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Sharksbaja
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Something reeks alright but it is not Baja.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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