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MICK
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They had deisel in SF yesterday when they didn't have gas
Getting there is ALL the fun!
Ok being here is fun to
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yellowklr
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So will I have any problems finding Diesel in Rosarito/Ensenada????
Derek
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ElFaro
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I heard on the local radio today here in San Diego that buses and trucks are stranded from TJ down to Rosarito at PEMEX stations waiting for diesel
deliveries on Monday. I think Ensenada will probably be affected as truckers suck up all the diesel they can get their hands on.
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Russ
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Baja Cactus, What's the report from El Rasario?
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bajamigo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
We just filled up with diesel today in Morro Bay.  $170.oo 
That will get us down to Maneadero where we will fill up again for almost half that amount before heading over to San Felipe on Friday. We should be
able to make it over to SF and back to Mane. on one tank, no problema.
Crazy.
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Good idea to have a Plan "B," Paulina. According to this morning's el Vigia, the diesel shortage has hit Ensenada, and a couple of stations on the
Reforma are tapped out. I filled up in Maneadero yesterday (before visiting Mecca across the street, "Poblano"). Got the fuel OK, but had to wait
behind several 18-wheelers, something I've never experienced before. Good news is that the price is still a shade over two bucks a gallon.
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Freebird
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I live in Rosarito and didn't see any problem with gas or diesel neither lines at gas stations. I think most of the problem is near the border, in Tj.
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bajamigo
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A neighbor just posted the following on our local Bulletin Board:
"11 a.m. Thursday. Just got back from Ensenada (we were on our way to
San Diego) - went to every station that carries diesel - there was
none to be found, and lines of trucks waiting for arrival of the
delivery and no one could say when that would be. Decided to come
home and lucked out in Maneadero - they had just received a delivery
and very kindly "rationed" out 40 liters to us. Did not (as of today)
seem to be a shortage of gasoline. Were also lucky to be able to
change our doctors' appointments to next week.
All of the stations attributed this shortage to the fact that the
majority of the diesel has been going to the stations in Tijuana,
Tecate, and Rosarito for the people who are crossing the border into
Mexico to fill up at a lower price. But it really is hurting us down
here, 100 miles south. The truckers are really hurting; they can't
even get what they need to keep on the road.
Can only imagine that the Mexican government will want to increase
their prices, and hopefully, if they do, it will just be in the border
regions, as they did once before. But who knows. . ."
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BajaCactus
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Fuel Shortage...
Sorry guys... I have been very busy taking care we do not run out of fuel at BajaCactus.
Indeed, the problem of fuel supply is critical in Mexico, and it is not exclusive of our area, but the whole country.
The problem resides in that the Mexico Government has been subsided the fuel prices, so Mexicans do not suffer from the very high prices of fuel that
are affecting most of the world... However, here in the border we have a lot people coming from the States to take advantage of the low prices of the
fuel (compared with the US)... specially in Diesel.
Another problem is that Pemex does not have enough plants to process the fuel being used in Mexico, and therefore they have to import a lot of the
processed fuel from the US... so, in one end, Pemex sells cheap raw petroleum to the US, and in the other, they buy expensive processed fuel to
compensate for the lack of processing plants, resulting in a high difference that at the moment is being absorbed by Pemex... it is said Pemex is
loosing millions of dollars daily.
They have told us that at this point 100% of the Diesel is being imported.
Now, in Baja, the main distribution Pemex Plant is in Rosarito... from there all Baja is supplied... and when there is a shortage all Baja is
affected... from Tijuana to Guerrero Negro.
To make matters worse, you should know that Gas Stations do not have permit to sell fuel wholesale, only to direct customers filling up their
vehicle's tanks.... however, in the past, when something similar happened, and Gas Stations where surprised selling to US customers in big extra cans
besides their vehicles tanks, they were shut down... so "officially", in the border, all this chaos is not being generated by people coming from the
US... at least this will have to be the Gas Station owners version.
At BajaCactus, we have managed not to run out of any product yet... we have had a full supply of Magna, Premium and Diesel throughout this crisis...
however, due to some people trying to buy in barrels to resell, and therefore possible affecting travelers, we had to ration the fuel, specially
diesel, to only full tanks.
I hope this does not cause more controversy and clear some doubts.
Safe travels my friends...
BajaCactus
"Where the Baja is so much more than a dream..."
[Edited on 6-19-2008 by BajaCactus]
BajaCactus
"Where Baja is so much more than a dream..."
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thebajarunner
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We can always count on you, Antonio
Great to have you as a friend for us 'down under'
both as a friend of Nomad
and as a personal friend as well.
Muchas gracias.
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David K
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Thanks for taking time to explain this Antonio!
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danaeb
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It's not our fault......breaking news
Baja Governor Blames Gas Company for Fuel Shortage, Not U.S. Drivers
"Diesel supplies in Tijuana should get back to normal within the next few days. Baja California's Governor says Mexico's gas company to blame for the
shortage, not demand from U.S. drivers. KPBS Reporter Amy Isackson has the story.
Governor Jose Guadalupe Osuna Millan says a PEMEX boat carrying 150,000 barrels of diesel is scheduled to arrive Friday."
http://www.kpbs.org/news/local;id=12040
Experience enables you to recognize a mistake every time you repeat it.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by danaeb
It's not our fault......breaking news
Baja Governor Blames Gas Company for Fuel Shortage, Not U.S. Drivers
"Diesel supplies in Tijuana should get back to normal within the next few days. Baja California's Governor says Mexico's gas company to blame for the
shortage, not demand from U.S. drivers. KPBS Reporter Amy Isackson has the story.
Governor Jose Guadalupe Osuna Millan says a PEMEX boat carrying 150,000 barrels of diesel is scheduled to arrive Friday."
http://www.kpbs.org/news/local;id=12040 |
There hasn't been an oil tanker off the coast of Rosarito Beach all week. No tankers- no gas. Usually there is one connected to the lines and
another waiting to unload further out.
The second problem is there is only one set of underwater pipelines and you can only unload an oil tanker so fast- no matter what the demand is for
gas is onshore.
No shortage of gas in Rosarito Beach (and there shouldn't be this close to the source). But geeesh, Now I know the huge gas storage tanks behind the
new Home Depot are empty and filled with (more explosive) fumes. I hope Home Depot isn't doing a nailgun workshop this weeend! One wrong nail and
ooops.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Klondike_Kid
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As I continually adjust and fine tune my ongoing plans for spending a significant portion of my future in Baja and especially the SOC side, now
another "challenge" rears its head. "What will the fuel resources and availability be like by January 2009 when I finally cross the border for the
first of many trips?" Of course no one would be able to answer that with any certainty. So a diesel rig is the name of the game for my transportation
since I feel most of Mexico must have diesel in enough supply to keep goods flowing to the communities and stores for survival.
I've read and heard of the stories about the rip off artists at some stations, non-zeroing of the pumps, short changing, etc. But now a new tid bit of
info has popped up in the article Baja Gas article presented at the beginning of this thread.
In the shaded insert it begins:
| Quote: | Buying gas in Tijuana
If you go to Tijuana to fill up your tank, here are some tips:
- Look for pumps that have the holographic seal of the Consumer Protection Office, which is intended to ensure that you get the quantity you pay for.
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OK, do ALL pumps throughout BAJA N & S have this seal on them? This is the first time I have heard about this. Can anyone provide even a partial
list of those stations they DO KNOW have sealed pumps? Thanks.
[Edited on 6-20-2008 by Klondike_Kid]
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Mango
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I haven't noticed any long lines or closures here in Mexicali. Although; last time I got gas was a week ago, I've been back in town for a few weeks
now and all seems normal...
With all the rumors I might just go fill up my tank tomorrow though. 
I let everyone know if I see a feral kid running around with a boomerang.
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David K
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Yah, it would be really rough to go to your favorite Baja spot and have to stay becase of no gas to drive home on ... really rough!   
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BornFisher
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Last two afternoons (Wed & Thurs), there has been about a 30 car line for gas at the station in Cantamar. Backs up to near the Palms bar and
grill! They do have two pumps shut down and that may be causing the lines!
The AM/Pm just south or Rosarito Beach looked good for gas, don`t know about diesel.
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BornFisher
Last two afternoons (Wed & Thurs), there has been about a 30 car line for gas at the station in Cantamar. Backs up to near the Palms bar and
grill! They do have two pumps shut down and that may be causing the lines!
The AM/Pm just south or Rosarito Beach looked good for gas, don`t know about diesel. |
A lot of folks wait to get to Cantamar because that station is not under the same border restriction as Tijuana/Rosarito and has cheaper gas, although
it is even cheaper in Ensenada...
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ElFaro
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I'll tell you what PEMEX should do...
They should build gas and diesel pipelines down to the SEMPRA Liquified Natural Gas (LNG) Storage Facility at Jatay (Bajamar)... right down to the
off-loading terminal. Those LNG tankers from Indonesia literally dwarf anything PEMEX would have. PEMEX could then off-load their gas/diesel from
their puny tankers between LNG deliveries. They would simply lease dock time.
BTW...those LNG storage tanks can hold enough Nat. Gas to supply the entire state of California for a day and the country of Mexico for a week.
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MrBillM
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Going South to get Gassed.
It will be interesting to see IF Mexico reopens their exit checkpoints from years ago when the same problem occurred. Since some of the border
crossings have been built since that time, they'd have to do some major construction.
Talk about DELAY at the border !
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yellowklr
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Anyone know the Diesel situation in San Quintin or El Rosario?
Derek
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