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[*] posted on 8-9-2008 at 05:21 PM


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This should be a wake up call and alarms should ring for all residents that have a bank trust on their property. I know of several people who have had their records go missing and all accounting of the payments go away in the mist.
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Once again Mexico proves how much of a third world country it really is no matter how much the people on this board prop it up at times.:(


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[*] posted on 8-9-2008 at 05:23 PM


I just joined this board and do not thinks its polite to call me or any new member a troll. I have just read the posting rules and calling one names was not allowed as I read them.
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[*] posted on 8-9-2008 at 07:48 PM


just getting back to the posts...

When we started the paperwork on our properties...(there were 2 properties we were working on... one of the flew out the door with our money with Dixon Twin and Twin properties....former posts in May 2008..........) The intent was to have a small casa that we would legit rent.

So NO, we did not fall for the "you don't have to have a Fido" line, the corp seemed to fit our situation and long term goals better.

The question still stands................
what's the best way to make payments???????????
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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 12:26 AM


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This should be a wake up call and alarms should ring for all residents that have a bank trust on their property. I know of several people who have had their records go missing and all accounting of the payments go away in the mist.
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Once again Mexico proves how much of a third world country it really is no matter how much the people on this board prop it up at times.:(


No. you are trolling! :mad:

Plus you don't like Mexico or the people here that do. You want a "sanitized country". Try Canada.
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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 06:55 AM


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Originally posted by loki
This should be a wake up call and alarms should ring for all residents that have a bank trust on their property. I know of several people who have had their records go missing and all accounting of the payments go away in the mist.
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Once again Mexico proves how much of a third world country it really is no matter how much the people on this board prop it up at times.:(


No. you are trolling! :mad:

Plus you don't like Mexico or the people here that do. You want a "sanitized country". Try Canada.
You want folks to respond don't you?




How do you know what I want?. Here is a clue so you and the other name callers do not have to guess.
I want to be able to post an opinion here on this board without some self important blabbermouth telling me that I am trolling or that I am anti mexican. How dare you tell me what I am all about or try to silence my opinion.
Frankly,I would rather that you not respond to my posts so that others might have a chance for more meaningful exchanges here.
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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 07:42 AM


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Once again Mexico proves how much of a third world country it really is no matter how much the people on this board prop it up at times.:(


Like to have your opinion of what a third world country looks like. I've been to several of Mexico's big and medium sized cities and found them pretty much the same as our so-called first world (western) countries's cities. Decent infra structure, good traffic regulations, newer cars and trucks and comparable living conditions to a lot of the USA.
Nothing compared to "real" third world places like their tanned brothers run on the dark continent. Even most of the latin American countries don't qualify as third world countries any longer.
But the western world likes to feel itself superior to the rest of the world, even including the far east. Wishful thinking.:no:




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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 08:30 AM


Scotia Bank delivers a notice to my mailbox on my house in Mexico two months ahead of the Fideicomiso annual payment due date, with a phone number to call if I have questions. The employees that handle payments speak English and are very polite and businesslike. I think they even accept checks drawn on an American bank and have a US address to send them to.

Perfect.

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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 09:05 AM


Van, right on brother. And maybe us U.S. retirees in Mexico are doing our part to make things more modern. I just carpeted my bathroom. It looks so good I'm thinking about running it all the way up to the house.
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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 10:37 AM


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Scotia Bank delivers a notice to my mailbox on my house in Mexico two months ahead of the Fideicomiso annual payment due date, with a phone number to call if I have questions. The employees that handle payments speak English and are very polite and businesslike. I think they even accept checks drawn on an American bank and have a US address to send them to.

Perfect.

[Edited on 8-10-2008 by k-rico]



The Bank of Nova Scotia which owns Scotia bank is a Canadian owned bank and like the HSBC which is Hong Kong owned are operating like real banks. Most of the Mexican Banks are a joke. Not being able to find standard documents and accepting stamped receipts from the banks own branches is nothing more than a scam and money grab.
There,I said it. Come and attack me for my opinion now.
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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 12:32 PM


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Van, right on brother. And maybe us U.S. retirees in Mexico are doing our part to make things more modern. I just carpeted my bathroom. It looks so good I'm thinking about running it all the way up to the house.



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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 12:33 PM
Trolling is subjective


To me that's what (some of)your posts seem to do.

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Quote:
Originally posted by loki
This should be a wake up call and alarms should ring for all residents that have a bank trust on their property. I know of several people who have had their records go missing and all accounting of the payments go away in the mist.
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Once again Mexico proves how much of a third world country it really is no matter how much the people on this board prop it up at times.:(


No. you are trolling! :mad:

Plus you don't like Mexico or the people here that do. You want a "sanitized country". Try Canada.
You want folks to respond don't you?




How do you know what I want?. Here is a clue so you and the other name callers do not have to guess.
I want to be able to post an opinion here on this board without some self important blabbermouth telling me that I am trolling or that I am anti mexican. How dare you tell me what I am all about or try to silence my opinion.
Frankly,I would rather that you not respond to my posts so that others might have a chance for more meaningful exchanges here.


I appreciate an honest opinion like the next guy but when you make sweeping statements like that one inferring people should wake up and examine their bank trusts for fraud I take offense.

You seem to know a certain amount of Mulege but your tone is that of mistrust and suspicion. Do you want people to worry?
I reviewed some of your posts and to me they look focused on negative stuff. Ok Loki maybe you have some upbeat stuff to share about Baja. You've been going there for 30 years so there must be something that draws you down. What would that be?

I never said to go away but your interests in Baja seem to fall somewhere between mistrusting Mexicans and helping Americans understand that.

Tell me who that has done due diligence has been able to avoid the silly problems that occur in Baja? It's only common sense that can save a novice from getting ripped off.

Folks who put tons of money in foreign banks must have money to burn. That's their perogative. Who ever said foreign banks were legit anyhoo?




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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 12:48 PM


I,m not at all sure of what 3d world means to all people. I do believe that by voicing concern about corrupt business, persons and government agencys is valid .It,s all to often that only the "Victims" speak out. I, for one, think that the more you care for a country and its people then the more you should be concerned about wrong doings. I don,t feel superior because I recognize a few of Mexico,s "faults" along with the many wonderful things that are "Good".However, I am thankful that I can speakout about bad and corrupt issues effecting the U S A without being deported!!
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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 12:54 PM


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To me that's what (some of)your posts seem to do.

Quote:
Originally posted by loki
Quote:
Originally posted by Sharksbaja
Quote:
Originally posted by loki
This should be a wake up call and alarms should ring for all residents that have a bank trust on their property. I know of several people who have had their records go missing and all accounting of the payments go away in the mist.
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Once again Mexico proves how much of a third world country it really is no matter how much the people on this board prop it up at times.:(


No. you are trolling! :mad:

Plus you don't like Mexico or the people here that do. You want a "sanitized country". Try Canada.
You want folks to respond don't you?




How do you know what I want?. Here is a clue so you and the other name callers do not have to guess.
I want to be able to post an opinion here on this board without some self important blabbermouth telling me that I am trolling or that I am anti mexican. How dare you tell me what I am all about or try to silence my opinion.
Frankly,I would rather that you not respond to my posts so that others might have a chance for more meaningful exchanges here.


I appreciate an honest opinion like the next guy but when you make sweeping statements like that one inferring people should wake up and examine their bank trusts for fraud I take offense.

You seem to know a certain amount of Mulege but your tone is that of mistrust and suspicion. Do you want people to worry?
I reviewed some of your posts and to me they look focused on negative stuff. Ok Loki maybe you have some upbeat stuff to share about Baja. You've been going there for 30 years so there must be something that draws you down. What would that be?

I never said to go away but your interests in Baja seem to fall somewhere between mistrusting Mexicans and helping Americans understand that.

Tell me who that has done due diligence has been able to avoid the silly problems that occur in Baja? It's only common sense that can save a novice from getting ripped off.

Folks who put tons of money in foreign banks must have money to burn. That's their perogative. Who ever said foreign banks were legit anyhoo?




What I said was it would be prudent to make sure that your documents are in order and that your payments are on record. I did just that when I heard about the fido problem several weeks ago and as I deal with ScotiaBank, was happy when they assured me that all items were in order.
There are lots of folks here who might go years without checking on their fidos status and since Bancomer has very little in the way of customer service. It would seem to be a logical thing to do. Having a fido go into default for lack of a paper trail on its bank fees is something no one in their right mind would want to deal with.
As for Mulege, I am there several times a years to fish and have many friends that live there full and part time. I sometimes stay at the Serinidad or with friends if there is room. It is one of my favorite stops in Baja. I also still own property at Scorpion Bay and try to surf there when my old body allows it.
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Oh, I agree. Perspective and circumstance can ultimately steer the direction you go in Mexico.

That's why getting all worked up(not you) over a bill or something else may or may not have a different effect or impact on what happens next.

That's why people need to do their OWN homework. What worked for you may or may not work exactly the same for the next guy. You know from years of exposure that experience IS the best teacher. A person needs to use a degree of conscientiousness you wouldn't typically use in your normal environment.
That's why I get irked when folks drop bombshells on otherwise inexperienced participants. They may not have the info or knowledge up top and instantly perceive Baja very negatively.

It is a difficult place to explain to a greenhorn.

Just recently a new Nomad suggested I was a leasee and lied about where I hang out. It was interesting because although that person knew a whole lot of stuff posted over the years, he/she/it assumed their facts and knew nothing at all about the "real" facts.

My point being that assumptions based on demographics don't always hold water. Credibilty can be a fragile commodity on BN. There are folks here regularly testing that value.

Maybe it's just a sport for some. eh Diver?:rolleyes:




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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 02:47 PM


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Oh, I agree. Perspective and circumstance can ultimately steer the direction you go in Mexico.

That's why getting all worked up(not you) over a bill or something else may or may not have a different effect or impact on what happens next.

That's why people need to do their OWN homework. What worked for you may or may not work exactly the same for the next guy. You know from years of exposure that experience IS the best teacher. A person needs to use a degree of conscientiousness you wouldn't typically use in your normal environment.
That's why I get irked when folks drop bombshells on otherwise inexperienced participants. They may not have the info or knowledge up top and instantly perceive Baja very negatively.

It is a difficult place to explain to a greenhorn.

Just recently a new Nomad suggested I was a leasee and lied about where I hang out. It was interesting because although that person knew a whole lot of stuff posted over the years, he/she/it assumed their facts and knew nothing at all about the "real" facts.

My point being that assumptions based on demographics don't always hold water. Credibilty can be a fragile commodity on BN. There are folks here regularly testing that value.

Maybe it's just a sport for some. eh Diver?:rolleyes:


I agree with you on that as there are some very fragile people who frequent this site. I do apologize if you thought I was picking on your town but I was not and have explained my affection for Mulege in a previous post here.
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Nope not me, I am watching beach vollyball in the Olympics. One mens' doubles guy from one of my old stompin' grounds, Redondo Beach.

Everything is good!:tumble:




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Osprey, You carpeted your bathroom?:?: :biggrin:
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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 05:11 PM


been a whole lot of blablabla, but not a lot of actual info regarding the original post, which was about fido payments.

Once again I'm asking the best way to make and insure payments of all sorts are trackable and provable.

Or maybe there is a lack of answers because most are in the "honeymoon" state of their fido's and don't watch them as Loki reffered to.

Please get this tread back on track and leave the bathroom carpet to the interior decorating thread.
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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 05:17 PM


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been a whole lot of blablabla, but not a lot of actual info regarding the original post, which was about fido payments.

Once again I'm asking the best way to make and insure payments of all sorts are trackable and provable.

Or maybe there is a lack of answers because most are in the "honeymoon" state of their fido's and don't watch them as Loki reffered to.

Please get this tread back on track and leave the bathroom carpet to the interior decorating thread.



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[*] posted on 8-10-2008 at 05:32 PM


Only one bank down here is Mexican. The other 8 are foreign owned. What set of rules do you think applies now that did or did not apply at your particular bank before they were purchased by a foreign bank? How do you think those rules changed? Can you do anything about it? Same thing happens all over the world including the U.S. when banks are sold. Bank two has different rules than bank one -- did you ever in the U.S. try to sue bank one or two for changing the rules on a contact you had? What do you expect in Mexico from banks who's new CEOs live and work in Lisbon?
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