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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by CaboRon
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Well Dennis,
That just blows my all my home improvement plans to hell.
We were trying to modify the cess pool to serve double duty as the swimming pool.
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That belly flop just gave me a huge belly laugh, Ron. Thanks for that. I owe you one.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
One caviot;
Even with well water systems, a very tiny amount of silt may accumulate over time at the bottom of distribution mains. Particularly when the mains are
sized for fire flow but normally only used for lesser flows.
With these systems some turbidity can occur when the water mains are flushed or after a fire event which can cause accumulated particulate to dislodge
and enter the water stream. Although this is not normally bacteriologically active material, it may contain heavy metal particulates or simple rust
that can stain your clothes.
More than you ever wanted to know ..... sorry, got carried away as I used to teach a class in this stuff. |
Even in the USA these problems can, and do, occur. Our drinking water in Redding, CA is co-mingled with the fire hydrants. When the city flushes the
water lines twice a year, we are advised to NOT drink the water for at least 24 hours. We have a very expensive "Aqua Pure" filter system on our
kitchen water source, and that is the ONLY water we EVER drink, but we don't drink even that when the city advises us that the lines will be flushed.
To each his/her own--------- I would drink tap water outside the USA ONLY if I
was about to die from dehydration!! I carry a Katadyn water filter when camping.
Barry
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Bob and Susan
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hey ... i'm with dennis
rule number ONE!!!
DON'T DRINK THE WATER.
drink ONLY purified water and cross your fingers.
rule number 2
DON'T DRIVE...AT NIGHT.
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Bajafun777
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CaboRon, I tend to agree with those clear thinking nomads that recommend drinking beer, however, I suggest that it be very cold and do not ruin it by
drinking water before or after. Use the current dirty or clouded water only for the toliet. I do not even suggest bathing in it until it clears up
to prevent possible infections. You should boil some and then use it for taking a bath. Now, what better excuse can you have than to say I had to
drink very cold beer but do not take a bath in it as the soap will only ruin the taste  ! Have seen this in San Felipe and even T.J. a number of
years back after a bad storm better to be safe than sorry. Take care=========== bajafun777
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bancoduo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Rainfall and rushing water causes turbulance and stirs up sediment... It will settle down eventually... not harmfull. |
Why Don't you people listen to the resident hydrologist.
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David K
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I am not a 'hydrologist' (I don't think I even know what that would be)...
However, in the response I was giving to Cabo Ron about 'cloudy water' after storms... He did not ask about 'drinking' it, nor would I assume he would
be so careless to drink from any tap in rural Mexico (or anywgere else in the world). Bottled water is even drunk by the locals! Beer is even better!!
Ron was describing TURBIDITY (see Turbid in the dictionary)... and for what I assumed he is was concerned about (plumbing fixture damage, clothes
washing, bathing), my response was "not harmfull". IF he specifically asked about drinking cloudy tap water in Baja... I would say NO, NO, NO.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I am not a 'hydrologist' (I don't think I even know what that would be)...
However, in the response I was giving to Cabo Ron about 'cloudy water' after storms... He did not ask about 'drinking' it, nor would I assume he would
be so careless to drink from any tap in rural Mexico (or anywgere else in the world). Bottled water is even drunk by the locals! Beer is even better!!
Ron was describing TURBIDITY (see Turbid in the dictionary)... and for what I assumed he is was concerned about (plumbing fixture damage, clothes
washing, bathing), my response was "not harmfull". IF he specifically asked about drinking cloudy tap water in Baja... I would say NO, NO, NO.
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Rainfall and rushing water causes turbulance and stirs up sediment... It will settle down eventually... not harmfull.
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David,
Don't be so defensive. You did say not harmfull (sic) and I cringed when I read that. Lots of people in many areas of Baja do drink the tap water,
including where we are.
Read the other posts about the increased dangers after a storm etc.
Maybe before you assume what someone is asking, you should ask---that would clarify things.
Diane
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David K
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Diane, I was the first to respond to Ron... so how could I possibly know what others would say AFTER...??? Ron didn't say drinking, so to me harmful
(thanks for the spell check) meant for other things. Turbid water isn't from my experience as an irrigation specialist.
My advice can only be based on what was asked... Ron didn't specify, so not harmful was a non specific answer. I lived 20 years with a water supply
drawn from a lake... (Lake Wohlford, near Escondido) and after rain storms the water became turbid (cloudy). It wasn't harmful to wash with, etc. We
drank bottled water all those years.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Diane, I was the first to respond to Ron... so how could I possibly know what others would say AFTER...??? Ron didn't say drinking, so to me harmful
(thanks for the spell check) meant for other things. Turbid water isn't from my experience as an irrigation specialist.
My advice can only be based on what was asked... Ron didn't specify, so not harmful was a non specific answer. I lived 20 years with a water supply
drawn from a lake... (Lake Wohlford, near Escondido) and after rain storms the water became turbid (cloudy). It wasn't harmful to wash with, etc. We
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As I said David, assumptions get us all into problems.
Diane
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Rainfall and rushing water causes turbulance and stirs up sediment... It will settle down eventually... not harmfull. |
You said "not harmfull".
You didn't say, not harful for everything but drinking.
Your comment could well have been interpreted exactly as it was written and someone could have been "HARMED".
Your statement was wrong and irresponsible; accept it, and stop acting like a defensive 2 year old !!
"But mommy I didn't really touch it; I just put my finger on it."
Worse behavior than my 7 year old !
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David K
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Okay, okay... my bad...
This is a forum for public discussion about Baja... Not a place to confirm if your tap water can be harmful... I am still waiting for Cabo Ron to say
if he meant harmful to drink or not.
If you need to know if your tap water is 'harmful', then please do more than ask on an Internet forum where nobody can see, or test your water.
Really, Ron... what where you trying to find out?
Cloudy, turbid water (happens when water comes from a lake or river after a storm) is just water with more dirt floating in it.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Okay, okay... my bad...
This is a forum for public discussion about Baja... Not a place to confirm if your tap water can be harmful... I am still waiting for Cabo Ron to say
if he meant harmful to drink or not.
If you need to know if your tap water is 'harmful', then please do more than ask on an Internet forum where nobody can see, or test your water.
Really, Ron... what where you trying to find out?
Cloudy, turbid water (happens when water comes from a lake or river after a storm) is just water with more dirt floating in it.
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Read the thread David,
And you will have your answer
Looks like we may need more popcorn 
So now you are determining what questions may be asked on the BajaNomad Forum ??
I am not going to say what I think of that attitude.
CAboRon
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David K
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Ron, I did read YOUR question... and was the FIRST to respond... the rest of the thread hadn't happened yet.
Here is what you posted:
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What Happened to the Water ?
Until it rained a couple of nights ago I had the clearest water comming out of my tap.
Now it is ugly and cloudy ....
Was it because of the storm ??
Is my system compromised somehow ....
I am now afraid to use the tap water for anything until it either clears up or can be tested.
Do you think this is backflow contamination ??
I am now running open taps to see if it will clear.
I live in Todos Santos and usually have city water 24/7 ..
When I lived in La Paz (centro) I only got city water every other day for about six hours .....
Would be interested in your observations....
Thanks,
CaboRon
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Here was MY reply:
Rainfall and rushing water causes turbulance and stirs up sediment... It will settle down eventually... not harmfull.
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Now, about this part:
"Would be interested in your observations....
Thanks,
CaboRon"
Please tell me why I should have ignored your post or better yet, why you can't tell us if you drink the tap water ?
Sorry for trying to give you some information on what causes cloudy water after a storm... Have a nice day!
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CaboRon
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Fine with me David ......
You have a nice day too ....
CaboRon
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Cypress
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lencho, Drinking the tap water is a no-no.  It's taught in Baja 101.No remedial course is required.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
As I said David, assumptions get us all into problems. |
I can't *believe* I'm supporting David on any issue, but I have to say that it's a reasonable assumption that no member of this board is so clueless
as to drink TS tap water, and that any reply could safely ignore that consideration.
--Larry |
However, isn't the assumption that it is not harmful still potentially dangerous? Sure, maybe no one in TS would drink the tap water as some do in
other areas, but if something happend that really polluted the water, it could still be dangerous to even take a shower, unless you treat the water?
So, even if one could safely ignore the idea of drinking the water, assuring someone that it is harmless without really knowing the cause for sure,
seems a little dangerous,
IMHO. It was a plausable answer to the cause of the cloudy water, however, who knows what was stirred up in that cloudy water.
Knowing the water system in our area with the multiple leaks, while some people do drink the tap water, we still treat our water just for bathing.
Too many grazing animals etc.
JMHO ---- still think assumptions get us all in trouble even when we think the assumption is a given.
Dang, need to get on the road---headed down to check out our water----
Diane
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vandenberg
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Have been drinking tap water since the 80's. First in Tripui and since the early 90's here in Nopolo. Never had any detrimental effects. Water at
Tripui was actually sweet and very good tasting. Adding sumptious amounts of scotch may have had something to do with eliminating any unwanted
critters, but not having had a drink for several years, has not changed anything however. Still drinking the water and healthy as the proverbial
ox.
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CaboRon
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I have found that bathing in Scotch can be very expensive....
Especially if (as I do) you prefer the single malt variety.
CaboRon
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Cypress
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vandenburg,  Yea, drank some tap water, thought maybe I'd come down with
the "break back" fever. Reamed me out big time. They say you acquire an
immunity to the water. One dose of whatever I had is enough.
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longlegsinlapaz
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Have been drinking tap water since the 80's. First in Tripui and since the early 90's here in Nopolo. Never had any detrimental effects. Water at
Tripui was actually sweet and very good tasting. Adding sumptious amounts of scotch may have had something to do with eliminating any unwanted
critters, but not having had a drink for several years, has not changed anything however. Still drinking the water and healthy as the proverbial
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Okay, so when I finish this casa & if I ever throw a bash, it looks like I either only invite Vandenberg...OR I tell everyone else to bring their own ice, because my ice/water in the door
refrigerator is plumbed to my cistern & has been in each of the 3 homes I've built here. That's nearly 10 years of drinking the water...and, like
Vandenberg, I too, must come from sturdy pioneer stock, because I'm alive to tell about it. Neither myself, nor anyone I've served water or ice to in
my home has ever gotten sick. Scotch would be a pollutant in my book!
Granted, my cistern isn't subject to external source contamination! Unless you count the time I caught a worker diving in it in his skivies  to retrieve
something he'd dropped on the bottom! But I made sure it was washed down with bleach & we used 3 loads of water for construction before I used it
for personal consumption!
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