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Bajafun777
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Same things are happening in Mexicali and due to dual citizenship issues we have the FBI also working with the Mexican Authorities on some of these
people that have businesses in Mexicali and San Felipe. This is just tough on everyone and they actually get a number of them back and the FBI have
so good sources as I know several cases they got the victims back. Our local Victim Witness Agency also assists the family members while the
kidnapping is unsolved and family in distress. Later-------- bajafun777
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tsgarcia69
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
compare the stats for the city of los angeles california then complain about baja...
Murder: 1 per day
Rape: 3 per day
Robbery: 45 per day
Assault: 84 per day
Burglary: 69 per day
Theft: 211 per day
Car Theft: 92 a day (~4 per hour) WOW!!!
Arson: 6 per day |
Good stats, Bob or Susan. I took your advice and compared that to Tijuana, just as you suggested, since you offered up no comparisons, just some
one-sided statistics. Let me show you how to make sense out of all that, as if you were in college and had to pass a statistics course:
Homicides in Los Angeles year-to-date 7/19/2008 = 206
Population of Los Angeles = 4,220,260
Homicides in Tijuana year-to-date 7/6/2008 = 260
Population of Tijuana = 1,286,187
Homicides per year per 100,000 population
Los Angeles = 9.76
Tijuana = 40.4
DOUBLE WOW!!!
Do you have any more non-comparative statistics you would like to post?
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palmeto99
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Those numbers are huge. I had no idea. How does it compare by region. It must get much worse.
The advice I am about to give you is worth what you are paying for it.
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tsgarcia69
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| Quote: | Originally posted by palmeto99
Those numbers are huge. I had no idea. How does it compare by region. It must get much worse. |
I could only pull up homicide numbers for TJ because it is being watched in the media. It is all but impossible to pull up regional data for all of
Baja. Even worse, the crime data in Baja is significantly under-reported. It is estimated that 80% of all crimes are not reported in Baja because of
fear of the police and general antipathy. Rape is very under-reported due to cultural differences.
What bothers me is the people who try to downplay the crime in Baja are almost all people with some kind of a tourist-related business there. They
make such ridiculous statements like the one I saw the other day from some Rosarito real estate agent. She said something like, "crime is no worse in
Baja than Detroit". As if some family is sitting around the dinner table planning their next vacation and saying, "Let's see, should we go to Baja or
Detroit?"
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Bob and Susan
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here is my source for crime stats in los angeles california...
http://www.cityrating.com/citycrime.asp?city=Los+Angeles&...
plese post where you found your stats...
otherewise you MAY have made them up
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Bajafun777
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Yes crime rates show you something if you can also get the data on exactly where the crime is happening, what gangs are in that area, what frequency
of the crime is happening, what is the victim criteria the criminals are looking for, what type of patrol and investigative response the police give
these areas of crime. Will it make crime rate go down? Nope, not if your judges, city and state officials are not all working together to give quick
effective justice to those committing these crimes. Additionally, Mexico needs to have a "Witness Protection Program" to get people to give up
information to take these cold blooded criminals off the streets. Mexico also needs to put the death sentence on the books and go after any crooks
relatives that have benefited in housing, bank accounts, cars, property, etc. and sell it off to put money into going after more crooks. All of this
will take money and Mexico is a lot closer than Iraq, so lets channel some monies with experts from here to end this mess from always being front page
news. With that said too many good people on both sides of these criminals actions are making our Baja less desirable for us or relatives we want to
share it with. I am too old to change I don't runaway from trouble too easy and will continue to enjoy Baja and other parts of Mexico. I will just
always be real careful, know what type of area I am in at all times, keep my belief in God strong, and enjoy life as it is suppose to be enjoyed not
in fear. "No Hurry, No Worry, Just Fun" bajafun777
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tsgarcia69
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I wouldn't make up something like that.
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jul/08/world/fg-tijuana8
"The weekend tally pushed the city’s death toll this year to more than 260, compared with about 152 homicides at this time last year, and underscored
authorities’ difficulties curbing organized crime."
http://www.lapdonline.org/assets/pdf/cityprof.pdf
Note YTD to 8/16/2008 homicides in 232, less 26 for 7/20 - 8/16 = 206.
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palmeto99
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Thank you for a very useful post that gives us an accurate picture of where this is heading.
The advice I am about to give you is worth what you are paying for it.
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Bob and Susan
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yes thank you tsgarcia69
the world up there is a dangerous place!!!
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Bajajack
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Another day of the mushroom treatment???
Sure seems to be a lot of posts deleted.
\"take what you can, give nothing back!\"
We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the
American people.\'
Theodore Roosevelt 1907
We can have no \"50-50\" allegiance in this country. Either a man is an American and nothing else, or he is not an American at all.
Theodore Roosevelt
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