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qtystarr
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 we are moving from Ensenada to Cabo and are driving so i have been very
worried how to do this with our 3 little dogs and 2 cats thanks for all the ideas.i was thinking about to get a large cage/cat carrier and put both
cats in it together(we have a van so there is room)
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BajaGringo
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Funny! Our cats would be upset if you DIDN'T put them in the same carrier together. I get the wife upset when I tell her I think they are lesbians...
[Edited on 9-26-2008 by BajaGringo]
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dtbushpilot
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Our cats have lived together for years and are best friends but when I put them both in the same carrier to take them to the vet a major scuffle
ensued.......they each have their own carrier now.....dt
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One thing I'd like to add.... the importance of a really sturdy carrying cage and a secure way to anchor it.
Never ever ever underestimate the power of a crazed caged kitty - even on tranquilizers. I learned this lesson while driving, when my yowling cat
and kitty carrier came flying from the rear of the car into the front seat, then began to wildly bounce around the front of the car as the
cat screamed and fought for freedom. That carrier had been firmly squeezed into the floor space in the back - but in it's fear my little 8 lb. cat
had jerked and wiggled it loose. It was not fun on the freeway. Imagine it would be waaay less fun in the air.
Nena
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
Skeet, We live in Farmington in the Northwest corner of the state.
Thanks to all for the advise and funny stories. Our cats are inside cats so going outside is rare. I tried putting a harness on both of them. One just
stood there for a few moments then fell over on his side. The other one didn't like it but He tolerated it. I clipped on one of those retractable
leashes on him and took him outside. Everything was ok for a while but then he suddenly bolted and when he hit the end of the leash it pulled out of
my hand and slammed into his rear end. What a rodeo, he ran into walls, ran in circles and finally got tangled up in the patio furniture......I
haven't put the harness on them since........dt |
sounds like great entertainment. you know, like when the family comes over for the holidays.
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dtbushpilot
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BajaGringo, Our cats are gay too. They are inside cats, both spayed males and have lived together for about 6 years. Once in a while one will get
"frisky" with the other. My beautiful wife Jill will react in horror but I remind her that they are inmates in jail and only trying to get by.
Here is a pic of them plotting the demise of our smelly dog.....dt
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BajaGringo
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You made me burst out laughing with that one...
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Never flown with a pet but we had quite a logistics problem moving from NC to AZ 8 yrs. ago, with 3 cats, Nikki, Tick and Cabron and our big Chow/Lab,
Chu Foon. To move furniture, I rented a U-Haul moving van. Not enough room in the cab and no air or light in the back of the van. I didn't want to
get rid of my truck, so I rented a flat bed trailer and loaded it on. Since it had a camper shell, we figured the animals could ride there. As it
was a 4 day drive (wife doesn't drive), she didn't think the cat sized carriers would be comfortable for them but 3 cats and a dog loose in the camper
sounded like a recipe for disaster too. The solution? Rabbit cages. We looked for pet friendly motels each sunset and had no really major problems
but I wouldn't want to do it again.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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dtbushpilot
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A couple of years ago We were going to take the cats on this same trip and I was struggling with what to do in the event that we ended up in the Sea
of Cortez. We wear inflatable life jackets, have a life raft and ditch bag, personal locator beacon etc. but what about the cats? Well, I had an idea.
I bought one of those foam floating noodles at WalMart and ziptied it to the cat carrier. I figured it would work but really didn't know how well.
Well, after a bottle of wine I had the great idea to try it out. I filled the bath tub with water and grabbed Seth (the biggest cat, if it worked for
him it would work for Bob) and carried him to the bathroom. He immediately knew something was up and although he put up a valliant fight I was able,
with the advantage of size and the opposing thumb, to wrestle him into the carrier. I dropped the carrier in the tub, doing my best to simulate actual
emergency conditions and the carrier sunk like a stone. I quickly fished it out of the tub and opened the carrier. Seth came out like he had been shot
out of a gun. he landed in the middle of the bathroom floor, turned around and glared at me with that "I'll feast on your carcas tonight" look and ran
away.
I decided to leave the cats home on that trip..........dt
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bajadogs
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
we used to take "cheeto" out for walks at Sunset Cliffs when he was still alive. coolest cat ever. didn't try to get away and if i saw a dog running
with it's owner i'd pick up cheeto and he wouldn't get all freaked out. we call the harness the "monkey suit" because it looks like the organ grinder
and his monkey.
the new cats will tolerate the monkey suit but if you try to leash them they freak and try to pull away until they slip it off over their head.
DUMB CATS....if they only new all the cool places we would take them! |
Woody, You were SO whipped!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
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fishbuck
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I think most cats prefer to ride in 1st class when they fly. They get the pampering that they expect there. Skip the hot wet towel though.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadogs
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
we used to take "cheeto" out for walks at Sunset Cliffs when he was still alive. coolest cat ever. didn't try to get away and if i saw a dog running
with it's owner i'd pick up cheeto and he wouldn't get all freaked out. we call the harness the "monkey suit" because it looks like the organ grinder
and his monkey.
the new cats will tolerate the monkey suit but if you try to leash them they freak and try to pull away until they slip it off over their head.
DUMB CATS....if they only new all the cool places we would take them! |
Woody, You were SO whipped!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
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WERE? "kitty" whipped, if you will.   
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Packoderm
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I'd think you'd just throw them in a bag.
...Just kidding. Also, I really like the picture of the cat on the leash. It looks so un-spazmatic.
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ecomujeres
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dtbushpilot:
We've traveled with our cat since he was 8 weeks old. He's now 7 years old and a 7 winter Baja veteran. He walks on a leash better than most dogs I
know, follows commands (clicking for OK and short hiss for the not OK directions to go in). He's fine when approached by dogs and has been known to
go after unsuspecting ones who get too close.
It is of course best to start them young but don't underestimate older cats. I also took my previous cat to Baja for the first time when she was 13.
The acclimation plan really didn't work with her so we ended up giving up on that and stuffing her in her roomy carrier on the day of departure and
hoping for the best. She wailed for awhile but finally gave up and settled in. Each day of the trip, she'd start out loud and upset but would
quickly quiet down. By day three, she was blase' about it all and knew the routine. She made three yearly trips down to and up from Baja.
The 7 year old does the same at the beginning of the trip, but quiets down quickly and sleeps for 6-8 hours at a time on the way. I will only offer a
little water if it's been really hot or stressful for him. Otherwise, cats can easily go 10-12 hours without food/water. I don't use tranqs. I find
that on our trips, he doesn't eat as much as usual, which is good since he's 18 lbs! and can stand to lose a few.
I have also found that we tend to underestimate cats' abilities to orient to their new surroundings. He is so used to traveling that he knows all the
places we frequent, can find our hotel door if we stay in one, knows his car and trailer. In new places, if I walk him outside around the yard or
such to acclimate him to the place, I don't worry so much (though I don't like it) if he gets outside on his own, because I know he knows where to
return.
I love to see people's faces as they realize that the small dog I'm walking is really a tuxedo cat. It's also interesting to see how some people will
try to ignore that fact, acting instead as if all is normal and that's NOT really a cat she's walking on the beach, is it?
One last thing. We took him on a short flight from Palo Verde to Guaymas one spring. Tucked his crate in the "luggage area" of the small passenger
plane and off we went. Made not a peep. Then it was through customs, where I realized belatedly that I'd stuffed his stash baggie (catnip) under his
blanket. Smiled and smiled and chatted with the customs agent as he started to inspect the cage then realized there was a really BIG cat inside.
Whew...big sigh of relief. We then took a taxi to the bus, the bus to Hermosillo, a cab to another bus and finally dragged him on a luggage carrier 6
blocks. Talk about a trooper. His only compliant was when his carrier went flying off the carrier and down the sidewalk of its own volition after I
hit a really big bump. SO? Don't underestimate their flexibilty. I really think both my cats have enjoyed their adventures and have benefitted from
being with us for the 6 months we are in Mexico rather than under the care of other family/friends.
Buena suerte. Tell us all how the trip goes.
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ecomujeres
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PS. I'd highly recommend the use of a harness, the type that has two loops, one goes separately around the neck, the other around the chest with the
type of fasteners often seen on fanny packs or knapsacks.
I've tried a couple of other styles, but the cat got out of it like Houdini, or it was so difficult to get the cat's legs through the loops that he
eventually sunk his teeth into my wrist and then got away as I tried to staunch the bleeding.
I recommend a harness, even if you aren't going to use a leash because it gives you something to grab on to in order to manage the cat or catch it as
it tries to slip away. My guy doesn't appreciate the tail grab and others won't either as they are trying to escape out the vehicle door.
A catnip-filled sock is a great tranquilizer. I leave one in his carrier while we travel.
And really, the last for now: Always watch out for overheating in any vehicle. Cats don't sweat so they will pant when hot, or really stressed out,
but they should eventually cool themselves down doing this. If they don't stop, then you need to decide if the vehicle (car, plane) is too hot for
them, even if its ok for you.
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I just came back from the store. And I saw "my" cat.
He's really sort of a tough alley cat that lives in the bushes around my apartment somewhere.
I hadn't seen him for a while and was a little worried that maybe he had been captured by animal control.
He is a very funny cat. He likes to sleep on the seat of a really nice harley parked here at the apartment. The harley is less than a year old and has
a cover on it. But the owner isn't exactly crazy about this dirty tough alley cat sleeping on his bike. He tries to make it uncomfortable for the cat.
But when I walked by the cat was sitting there eyeing "his" bike trying to figure out how to climb on and get comfortable.
There is a bunch of padded chairs stored near the bike so I suggested he sleep there but he wasn't buying it.
I guess his name must be Harley.
Man, I like that cat.
[Edited on 9-27-2008 by fishbuck]
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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BajaGringo
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Cats definitely do have "personality".
Harley sounds like a perfect name...
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dt - was that your Q on BBP about return check in procedures last week?
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dtbushpilot
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Capt. Mike, I was wondering if I could file a return flight plan via email and was looking for the phone number for Prescott FSS if not. I have the
number from last years BBP membership card and am assuming it to still be accurate: 928-5836126. Do you know the answer to the email qx?....thanks..dt
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capt. mike
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no - the number changed and there are 2.
1st try 928.778.0314 as primary
then try 928.583.6154 as alt.
if yur exiting out of loreto DO NOT rely on them to forward your ARR like MMGM does.
so yes, call PRC within 24 hours of your dep time to get it in the system. then UPDATE your ETA in the air as soon as you get in radio range on 122.4
have fun - can i come visit you?? please huh, can I??!!
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