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[*] posted on 11-28-2008 at 10:36 AM
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do children still need notorized permission from abcentee parent to enter Baja?



It's my understanding that permission is needed from the custodial, not non-custodial parent.




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[*] posted on 11-28-2008 at 12:12 PM


Dave,
That puts it in a different light for me. I've never had one, nor have I been asked for one in over 20 years of traveling alone with my kiddos. I was about to email the X asking him to provide one, but if he is the non-custodial parent, then it's not necessary?

Can anyone provide a link to the offical ruling?

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[*] posted on 11-28-2008 at 12:20 PM


Paulina, I just emailed the LA Mexican consulate asking the question. Will post the reply when I get it. May be a long time since I did it in Spanish :)



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[*] posted on 11-28-2008 at 12:22 PM


Thanks Ken,

Cody may be going with us for New Years. I wanted to have all my patos in a row (for a change). ;)

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[*] posted on 11-28-2008 at 12:54 PM


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Originally posted by Paulina
Dave,
That puts it in a different light for me. I've never had one, nor have I been asked for one in over 20 years of traveling alone with my kiddos. I was about to email the X asking him to provide one, but if he is the non-custodial parent, then it's not necessary?


My source is my son-in-law who does everything according to Hoyle. He has three kids. One lives with his ex in Chicago and the other two with him. Says he only needs permission for the one child. I don't know if the requirement has been rescinded, though. Wouldn't make much sense to me. But then again...This is Mexico. ;D

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[*] posted on 11-28-2008 at 03:01 PM


Ok, here's the way it doesn't work. My wife and son were to join me in Baja. They were taking a Alaskan Airlines flight with a stop-over in San Diego.
At the Portland check-in desk they were asked for a notorized affidavit from me stating our minor child could travel to Mex with my wife.

They did not have one so they drove the three hours to get home and contacted me to arrange getting one.

Meanwhile....
I waited for three hours in Loreto but no wife and child appeared and I went back to Mulege.


The airline said they/she needed one from me and it needed notorizing so I wrote the letter then drove to Sta Rosalia and had it translated so the notorio could understand it then I faxed it to my wife in Oregon.

This time the airlines said a notorized paper from Mex was no good. My wife was in tears as they refused to accept the paper. Then at the last minutes before the flight the recommended they have a "resident" notorio at the airport sign off on it. They warned however that it may not be accepted at the San Diego airport but would not call them and said "you can take a chance".
They flew to San Diego and onto Loreto. When they arrived at the airport in Loreto the immigration folks held them there for two hours while questioning the validity of the notorized paper.
Finally they said the document was worthless and eventually let them in the country anyway.

Subsequent complaints and calls to Alaskan Airlines confirmed the idiots knew squat about how the law works, in either country.

It cost me two days of driving back and forth to Loreto and Sta Rosalia and my poor wife and child were put through hell in the US airports. They were all extremely rude and unhelpful. Jerks in both airports.

Needless to say, there are just about the same number of marooons on both sides of the border and my family will NEVER unless an emergency happens, fly into Loreto/Mexico again.

All I can say is; make and get the letter notorized in the U.S. Then absolutely DO NOT show it to anyone unless it's demanded. Why ask for trouble.




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[*] posted on 11-28-2008 at 04:36 PM


It seems pretty obvious that Mexican law regarding the need for permission from the absent parent is interpreted in different ways.

Does this really s urprise anyone?




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[*] posted on 12-1-2008 at 10:42 AM


The Mexican consulate just responded to my email question by referring me to "legal assistance" at 866-587-4639. I called the number and talked with a lady who spoke reasonably good English. She told me that if one parent accompanies a minor child into Mexico, a notarized letter of permission IS REQUIRED from the other parent.



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[*] posted on 12-1-2008 at 01:00 PM


I've made many, many trips to Baja with my minor son, and as others have stated I've never once been asked to show a permission slip. But that does not mean I don't have one...

I've attached a msword doc that does a pretty good job. (You still have to get it notorized.)

Attachment: AUTHORIZATION FOR FOREIGN TRAVEL WITH MINOR.doc (22kB)
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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 09:35 PM


If you're driving to Guerrero Negro or beyond, the people at the immigration booth will always ask to see the notarized permission and will not let you pass without it.
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[*] posted on 12-2-2008 at 09:48 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by bajalera
It seems pretty obvious that Mexican law regarding the need for permission from the absent parent is interpreted in different ways.

Does this really s urprise anyone?





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From Ken Bondy:

The Mexican consulate just responded to my email question by referring me to "legal assistance" at 866-587-4639. I called the number and talked with a lady who spoke reasonably good English. She told me that if one parent accompanies a minor child into Mexico, a notarized letter of permission IS REQUIRED from the other parent.

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Does this contradiction really surprise anyone????? This is Baja......get the authorization.......if you need it, you have it. If you don't need it....so what.........why take a chance????



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[*] posted on 3-17-2009 at 11:22 AM


One more question. My kid is 17 and we are headed down next month. Is he a minor or an adult in Mexico?
Do I need to get Mamas permission?
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[*] posted on 3-17-2009 at 11:30 AM


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One more question. My kid is 17 and we are headed down next month. Is he a minor or an adult in Mexico?
Do I need to get Mamas permission?

No Espolon Reposado until he's 18 ;)




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[*] posted on 3-17-2009 at 11:43 AM


http://www.globetrektravel.com/minortravelforms.pdf


Here's the form I gave my ex to fill out back in November when this thread began. Now if I could get him to return it to me, that would make my day. :lol:

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[*] posted on 3-17-2009 at 12:44 PM


Thanks for the reply. I'll get the notarized copy although sometimes I feel like leaving him to fend for himself. He sometimes drives me loco!!

His older bro is 20. He'll be buying the Espolon!!
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