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[*] posted on 5-3-2009 at 02:19 AM


A Pest is a Pest, period. Once you politely tell someone you are not interested a stronger look of anger is appropriate and usually works for my wife. Now, Jeans on the other hand could probably throw a bottle of tequila at you, yes yes an empty one, if you gave her too much trouble, LOL. Later---bajafun777



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[*] posted on 5-3-2009 at 07:44 AM


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CP, it sounds like you've gained some first hand experience in this department too. Do you purposely avoid waving at folks when riding sola on your moto?


I wave to everyone. Dogs, too. But my standard smile with eye contact to men (strangers) had led to uncomfortable situations for me when we first moved to Mexico. As I am not interested in pursuing such a relationship and as I have an esposo grande, fuerte y muy jeloso, I have learned to curb my friendliness with strange men when I am sola.
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[*] posted on 11-16-2009 at 04:03 PM
Wow


"I have learned to curb my friendliness with strange men" now that must be a hard one!!

I've been having a difficult time with them all my life too...

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[*] posted on 11-16-2009 at 05:14 PM


When walking, walk with a sense of purpose; quickly. No hesitating, looking around or eye contact.

When sitting in a cafe, or in a public establishment, acquire an air of self confidence; appear very comfortable being alone in your environment. No need to be impolite or rude. Making reference to the impending arrival of your big and very jealous husband is a good ploy. Just act cool and disinterested. No smile! You don't have to worry about offending in a foreign culture.

This goes counter to your natural, friendly inclinations as an American or Canadian woman, but very necessary to counter the Mexican male assumption that you are starving for male companionship because you are unfortunate enough to be 'alone'. American women are considered (erroneously) to be looser than their Mexican counterpart. :O

Mexican men have been coddled and indulged...read that, spoiled by their mothers while they are little boys. They grow up with a sense of entitlement and propriety when it comes to women. ;D

On the other hand, women are shielded, protected and trained to the point of deprivation in order to receive the proper respect when grown up. This includes manner of dress. :saint: Things are changing in this regard, but the male reverts to the old social ways when he sees an American woman. Plus you hold the attraction of being 'different'.

Finally, in Mexico you don't have to like it or encourage it, but you need to be prepared for the unwanted attention. It comes with the territory and will simply take a bit of time and interruption of whatever you were doing, to send him on his way without insulting his sense of manhood.




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[*] posted on 11-16-2009 at 05:39 PM
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"Mexican men have been coddled and indulged...read that, spoiled by their mothers while they are little boys. They grow up with a sense of entitlement and propriety when it comes to women."

Funny how the change of just a couple of words can make something true or false, depending on one's particular view about things.


American and Canadian women have been coddled and indulged... read that, spoiled by their mothers while they are little girls. They grow up with a sense of entitlement and propriety when it comes to men.

Considering that the divorce rate is above 60% and that 70% of all men that are 30 and over are not married and when an interview was conducted on Wilshire Blvd. in Beverly Hills around 6 months ago, 98% of the men interviewed responded to a question posed to them: if you had the choice of getting married or jumping into a tank of great white sharks... yeah, you guess it.... they chose the tank of sharks..

Married 43 years to the same "woman".... who is the smartest? Just ask her, who's the toughest? Ahhhhhhh, yes.... just ask her.

If she gets hit on, that is going to be her fault and her business to take care of... she is after all the woman. And women have been dealing with men's sexual advances for a long, long, long time... and will for as long as I can see... as they are the opposite sex.

I'm with Sheri's old man... I don't need a stinking fight over a woman, at my age or any age who is after all my wife.




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[*] posted on 11-16-2009 at 05:48 PM
True Story:


I lived in San Miguel de Allende in the early 1980s and played the trumpet with a Jazz/Salsa band in Restaurante Mama Mia's. One evening my American girlfriend was sitting in the front row right in front of me. A guy was bothering her and I noticed when I saw the distressed and displeased expression on her face.

Before the tune we were playing ended, I set down my horn, stepped off the stage and walked up to this guy. I wagged my index finger side to side, looked him straight in the eye and said, "No le molesta mi Novia!" I was not hostile; just firm. That is a code among Mexican men that is usually understood and accepted. I was doing the honorable thing and protecting my woman.

Well, (gulp)...this guy got up out of his chair, and he kept getting up and getting up until I was craning my neck and practically looking straight up at the ceiling. This guy was huge! He looked like Jaws in the James Bond movies. He stared down at me menacingly. I could feel the sweat breaking out all over my body. :O

My girlfriend called my name, "Tony"! I defiantly waved her off, all the while not breaking eye contact with the giant. Suddenly he broke into a big smile. I swear his teeth were as big as a horse's. He said in a rather weak and quiet voice, "OK!"

He didn't so much as look at my girlfriend again and my confidence was restored, knowing that I had properly garnered his respect, macho a macho, mano a mano. The macho code of honor prevailed. However, my trumpet had a new shaky vibrato as I resumed playing. :)




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[*] posted on 11-16-2009 at 08:02 PM


cool, tony...you stood your ground...sometimes it works...hope you're
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[*] posted on 11-17-2009 at 09:15 AM


p.s My wife carries a stun gun with her at all times for the insistence one's and when walking the dog's a "big stick"



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[*] posted on 11-20-2009 at 12:36 AM


I like "Mi Tokayos" approach but other than the idioma how is this different from Gringolandia?????? What do you do/say here?
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[*] posted on 1-6-2011 at 09:55 AM


There are some wise women on this thread who clearly have lived and observed. Thanks for taking the time to share. And, yes, in my experience with latino men, it starts in babyhood with mamas that can't seem to say "No"! This is a stereotype but like most stereotypes, there is a germ of truth at the center. BTW, any woman who cannot disappoint strangers and constantly seeks to please will attract those who seek to manipulate.
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[*] posted on 1-6-2011 at 11:23 AM


Maybe somebody suggested this before, but just in case...

Smile, and using a gravelly voice say, Soy un hombre vestido de mujer, tonto.

The first “o” in tonto should sound like the vowel sound in “saw,” not like the one in the Lone Ranger’s sidekick’s name.

On second thought, you’d better pronounce both o’s as in “saw.” In Spanish, vowels always have the same sound.

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[*] posted on 1-8-2011 at 03:48 PM


There's a simple solution to your problem. Masy: Get old enough, and horny men will no longer hit on you.



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[*] posted on 1-8-2011 at 04:49 PM
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I think that Shari's explanation of how a Mexican spouse feels is very revealing.

I have found that a scowl and turning away with negative body language (shoulders hunched, hands and arms clenched) usually works, but it goes against the way I was raised and I always feel ashamed that I was forced to resort to that.

I haven't had to use vulgar insults, thank the lord, but if the man is persistent, I do raise my voice and say, "Vete!"




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[*] posted on 1-8-2011 at 04:58 PM


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You must be attractive, consider yourself lucky. I may have a solution. Would you like to meet for lunch and discuss it?

Or, try this: Gracias, eres muy guapo, pero soy una lesbiana. Tienes una hermana? :spingrin:

I love that!, but you'll only make him think of how he can turn this unlikely encounter into a three-way. But seriously married Mexican men are like dogs in heat with no off switch. And that's just my own family. I think it is because they marry so young. The whole Mexican culture is sexually sensual with all the telenovelas people can't tear themselves away from. There is nothing you can do to stop him from trying his best- and, no insult intended- they really aren't all that selective when it come to flings. I see it all the time and the Mexican ladies are pretty good at holding their own having grown up in this culture. If you want it real bad- walk by a construction site... almost like being catcalled in NYC. lol




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