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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Our solution to high speed driving is to visit baja less frequently but for longer periods of time. I no longer go to baja for less than one month at
a time.
The goal when driving the highway for us is not to get from A to B but is the experience itself. We never drive fast because we don't have to, and
when it's time, we simply drive off-road somewhere and set up camp. The mornings are slow affairs as I like to walk around for an hour with the
binoculars, followed by a cup of coffee, and only then do we even think of preparations for continuing the journey.
I just think that the 'highway' is really just a country road that was built with that sort of traveler in mind. It's seldom used that way any longer
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Perfect!!!! That is the way we travel, also.
I work at not holding others up, so go out of my way to let others get by me without endangering them (and others) in the process. It is pretty easy
to do with my small truck camper-----much harder I suppose with one of those "elephant rigs" 
We NEVER drive beyond San Quintin (actually just south of there) the first day, and often stop at the old La Pinta in Catavina the next night, more
for the food than for the nights stay, but it is fun to walk around Catavina after stopping at about 3 or 4 pm. We are normally camping, so that
makes it a lot more flexible, but we still camp pretty close to Catavina, and the "food".
Diane is so right-------they really need "something" (gas and lodging) between Catavina and GN, and that has been so forever. We usually drive from
Catavina to San Ignacio the third day, and hang it up there pretty early-------such a neat place to spend the afternoon and evening. Fast trips to
Baja are just not our "cup of tea".
Barry
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Bajahowodd
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Not quite sure what expensive means, but both Desert Inns in Catavina and San Ignacio, having been remodeled in the past couple of years charge $75. I
remember paying $100 years ago. I don't think the rate has much to do with currency fluctuation, because I was quoted $75 last summer when the
exchange was 9.5 to 1.
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fishbuck
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The speed limit is 250 knots below 10,000 feet.
So if you want to make Baja safer for yourself you should all pitch in for my airplane rental so I will not need to fly my Ford on Highway 1.
If I can get say 100 Nomads to pitch in $25 each that will be enough for about 4 trips this year. Maybe 5.
So it's for a good cause and your own protection.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Paulina
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What is sad is that you can drive cautiously, take your time, enjoy the drive, spend a month or so, etc. and still be taken out around the next turn
by those who turn into Robby Gordon when they cross the border.
Putting your own life in danger is one thing, but to put others lives at risk is just plain stupid IMO.
P.
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
What is sad is that you can drive cautiously, take your time, enjoy the drive, spend a month or so, etc. and still be taken out around the next turn
by those who turn into Robby Gordon when they cross the border.
Putting your own life in danger is one thing, but to put others lives at risk is just plain stupid IMO.
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Maybe you have a month to spend. But not everyone does.
Look, I'm not trying to justify fast driving. But the reality is that lots of people drive fast down there. It's a fact of life. The distances are
very long. And if you don't have lots of time there is only one other way to cover those distances.
Speed.
The only other option is to not go. And for me that is not an option I am willing to accept.
Again, you can see why I am trying so hard to use the plane. It's much quicker and safer.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Barry A.
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3 cheers for airplanes.  
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bajacowboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
What is sad is that you can drive cautiously, take your time, enjoy the drive, spend a month or so, etc. and still be taken out around the next turn
by those who turn into Robby Gordon when they cross the border.
Putting your own life in danger is one thing, but to put others lives at risk is just plain stupid IMO.
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Maybe you have a month to spend. But not everyone does.
Look, I'm not trying to justify fast driving. But the reality is that lots of people drive fast down there. It's a fact of life. The distances are
very long. And if you don't have lots of time there is only one other way to cover those distances.
Speed.
The only other option is to not go. And for me that is not an option I am willing to accept.
Again, you can see why I am trying so hard to use the plane. It's much quicker and safer. |
You should NOT be
piloting an aircraft.
WHY!
It's self explanitory
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
What is sad is that you can drive cautiously, take your time, enjoy the drive, spend a month or so, etc. and still be taken out around the next turn
by those who turn into Robby Gordon when they cross the border.
Putting your own life in danger is one thing, but to put others lives at risk is just plain stupid IMO.
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Maybe you have a month to spend. But not everyone does.
Look, I'm not trying to justify fast driving. But the reality is that lots of people drive fast down there. It's a fact of life. The distances are
very long. And if you don't have lots of time there is only one other way to cover those distances.
Speed.
The only other option is to not go. And for me that is not an option I am willing to accept.
Again, you can see why I am trying so hard to use the plane. It's much quicker and safer. |
Do you fly an airplane as safely as you drive?
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
What is sad is that you can drive cautiously, take your time, enjoy the drive, spend a month or so, etc. and still be taken out around the next turn
by those who turn into Robby Gordon when they cross the border.
Putting your own life in danger is one thing, but to put others lives at risk is just plain stupid IMO.
P. |
Maybe you have a month to spend. But not everyone does.
Look, I'm not trying to justify fast driving. But the reality is that lots of people drive fast down there. It's a fact of life. The distances are
very long. And if you don't have lots of time there is only one other way to cover those distances.
Speed.
The only other option is to not go. And for me that is not an option I am willing to accept.
Again, you can see why I am trying so hard to use the plane. It's much quicker and safer. |
Do you fly an airplane as safely as you drive? |
If you really want to know you'll have to pitch in about $300 for a trip to Guerrero Negro.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajacowboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
What is sad is that you can drive cautiously, take your time, enjoy the drive, spend a month or so, etc. and still be taken out around the next turn
by those who turn into Robby Gordon when they cross the border.
Putting your own life in danger is one thing, but to put others lives at risk is just plain stupid IMO.
P. |
Maybe you have a month to spend. But not everyone does.
Look, I'm not trying to justify fast driving. But the reality is that lots of people drive fast down there. It's a fact of life. The distances are
very long. And if you don't have lots of time there is only one other way to cover those distances.
Speed.
The only other option is to not go. And for me that is not an option I am willing to accept.
Again, you can see why I am trying so hard to use the plane. It's much quicker and safer. |
You should NOT be
piloting an aircraft.
WHY!
It's self explanitory |
Thank you for your unsolicited, uneducated comment about my flying skills.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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marv sherrill
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skipjack joe - you said it all -
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajacowboy
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
| Quote: | Originally posted by Paulina
What is sad is that you can drive cautiously, take your time, enjoy the drive, spend a month or so, etc. and still be taken out around the next turn
by those who turn into Robby Gordon when they cross the border.
Putting your own life in danger is one thing, but to put others lives at risk is just plain stupid IMO.
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Maybe you have a month to spend. But not everyone does.
Look, I'm not trying to justify fast driving. But the reality is that lots of people drive fast down there. It's a fact of life. The distances are
very long. And if you don't have lots of time there is only one other way to cover those distances.
Speed.
The only other option is to not go. And for me that is not an option I am willing to accept.
Again, you can see why I am trying so hard to use the plane. It's much quicker and safer. |
You should NOT be
piloting an aircraft.
WHY!
It's self explanitory |
Thank you for your unsolicited, uneducated comment about my flying skills.
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fishbuck,
your posts make you appear to be a greenhorn pilot. i actually have no idea if you have any experience, just saying what i'm thinkin' after i read
your posts
back on topic,... best reason not to speed is that it's easy to get sloppy driving those long distances and very easy to drift off shoulder of the
thin roads. when you depart roadway, your chance of survival at 50 mph is at least 3 times greater than at 70 mph.
also, you should slow down and yield to bicycles
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fishbuck
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"greenhorn pilot"
Well the captain of the Buffalo crash had over 3000 flying hours.
The minimum time any pilot has that can legally carry passengers is 40 hours.
I have about 400 hours.
The minimum time in type for the Cherokee 6 where I fly is 10. I have about 50. All that is either Baja or dual instruction time.
I think the minimum time to be eligible to test for a Commercial Pilot license is 250.
So I'm hardly a "greenhorn pilot".
But ya, bicycles are the biggest danger in Baja!
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Sharksbaja
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UH...er...uh...er....YES!....er.....NO!....er....fast....er.....slow...er...er...er
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
Nomads\' Sunsets
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Bajahowodd
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And no one has checked in about drinking while driving.
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woody with a view
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don't drink and drive....you might hit a bump and spill!!!
and all the other reasons, too!
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BajaNuts
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drinking and driving is a whole other thread!
We had some fast driving confessions at the start of this thread. I guess drinking and driving confessions should start their own thread.
I've done the long hauls both NOB and SOB. 16 hours in the seat with the single purpose of "hauling donkey" and making time. Didn't have a spouse or
son then.
What would happen to my family, to my young son, if I am not here? What kind of grief would he and my husband have to endure? Why would I
deliberatley add to the inherent risk of driving anywhere- let alone MX1- by driving aggressively, tired or too fast? I want to live and see my son
grow up, to be there for him. To hopefully see grandbabies.....and to spoil them rotten as grandmothers are supposed to do.
If you were driving too fast, tired, or recklessly and God Forbid, you were involved in an accident that injured or killed another person........could
you live with yourself knowing it might have been prevented?
I don't want to be your "innocent bystander".
I'm not saying don't speed, don't drive long hours, just don't put anyone else at risk if you choose to do so. Kill yourself, let the rest of us
live.......
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vgabndo
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It occurs to me that part of the reason folks don't pay much attention to the speed limits on the caraterra is that they are often very low even for
that road. It MIGHT help if some of the nice straight 35 MPH sections had the limits raised.
It also occurs to me that the discussion is moot considering the normal behavior of folks driving on the freeways of the USA. I'm a person who drives
the speed limit in the US. The rate that the other "citizens" are moving often makes me feel as though I have both feet planted on the brakes.
Americans are a lawless bunch, especially behind the wheel, why would anyone expect that to improve on the Baja highway? The idea of saving fuel,
being a law-abiding person, showing respect for one's fellow travelers, and giving the livestock a break (in Mexico) must be for liberals like
myself.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Barry A.
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Vag-------now you've done it---------oh boy.
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vgabndo
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Yeah I know Barry!!! Sort of my mood today; to yank chains.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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