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[*] posted on 3-10-2009 at 06:28 PM


yea, (Before Online with Nomads)
I drove through the TJ border on a green light and kept driving to La Paz.

Someone mentioned FMT and I said "FM-who?"

Like someone else said, go to the office on the Malecon on a Monday (or say you got in the night before,) pretend you got off a boat????, the idea being that you did not just drive the whole length of Baja without proper tourist documentation.

On our first trip via airplane to La Paz, we were told to "KEEP THE FMT SAFE! You will not be allowed to leave without it!" I' can't say if that part is true, just relating what was told to us.

PS- The counter stations at the Immegration Office in La Paz open at 9:00am, but the lobby opens earlier than that. I got to the office at 8:45 and there were 4 people ahead of me. If you get there later, you will be waiting for all sorts of emmigration and Immigration (and as seating is limited in the lobby) with everyone's extended families also.

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[*] posted on 3-10-2009 at 11:31 PM


Seriously Ron, as I look around that poor excuse for an office at the San Ysidro crossing, I really have a problem believing that my info ends up on some data base. I mean really, other than a head count, what could it possibly matter? That being said, if you are correct, I still don't think, in my wildest dreams, if I was asked for my FMT at the state line, and told them I lost it, they would be accessing a data base inside that shack. Just my opinion. But, returning to the original post here, I do not recall if there was ever anything said about the three stooges having passports. Not to mention that I have tremendous doubt that everything was closed at the SY border. We all know that with the exception of the occasional potty break, this is a 24 hour station, including the bank.
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[*] posted on 3-11-2009 at 01:00 AM


I've seen it alluded to - but didn't notice it communicated outright - to fly back, they must also have a passport.

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[*] posted on 3-11-2009 at 05:24 AM


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I've seen it alluded to - but didn't notice it communicated outright - to fly back, they must also have a passport.

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/vacation/ready_set_go/air_...


Thankyou for that, although flying with a passport is old news.




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[*] posted on 3-11-2009 at 07:19 AM


Don't seek help from a Migracion office at any airport. They are generally staffed by a**holes. An aquaintance was forced to fly from Loreto to TJ to obtain the FMT once.

For the drivers, there is a little known Migracion office right in front of the Universidad at the glorieta in central Loreto. Those guys are great - friendly & helpful. Fill out the form for you, with a smile. Try there & say you're heading south.

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[*] posted on 3-11-2009 at 07:29 AM


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yea, (Before Online with Nomads)
I drove through the TJ border on a green light and kept driving to La Paz.

Someone mentioned FMT and I said "FM-who?"

Like someone else said, go to the office on the Malecon on a Monday (or say you got in the night before,) pretend you got off a boat????, the idea being that you did not just drive the whole length of Baja without proper tourist documentation. ....


The FM-T clearly is marked the method of travel: Boat/ Plane/ Car... I suppose you could get in by one method and leave by another?




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[*] posted on 3-11-2009 at 07:30 AM


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Don't seek help from a Migracion office at any airport. They are generally staffed by a**holes. An aquaintance was forced to fly from Loreto to TJ to obtain the FMT once.

For the drivers, there is a little known Migracion office right in front of the Universidad at the glorieta in central Loreto. Those guys are great - friendly & helpful. Fill out the form for you, with a smile. Try there & say you're heading south.

Hope this helps!


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[*] posted on 3-11-2009 at 11:38 AM


All immigration offices will have the same fine for not getting the FMT prior to entry. It is the same fine at all of the offices (with the exception of the airport) so whatever is most convenient. Things are rapidly changing in Baja (and probably all of Mexico) and the days of letting things slide have been replaced by trying to stay on the correct side of the law.



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[*] posted on 3-11-2009 at 11:57 AM


thanks everyone for your replies especially morgaine for giving me exact directions to the INM office. the 3 stooges are on their way now to the la paz INM office. they all have passports. will give you an update upon their return.
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All immigration offices will have the same fine for not getting the FMT prior to entry. It is the same fine at all of the offices (with the exception of the airport) so whatever is most convenient. Things are rapidly changing in Baja (and probably all of Mexico) and the days of letting things slide have been replaced by trying to stay on the correct side of the law.


I find it interesting that friends are now asking me how to get their FM3s .....

A couple , who have lived here for years, asked me how they could get an FMT :lol:

And the days of running without current tags is rapidly expireing .....

Definately in the big cities like La Paz and CSL ......

I have always played on the squeeky clean side as far as papers and tags are concerned, and I am amazed at how many never have bothered with those things.

It seems to be tightening up on all those things that people were used to letting slide :cool:

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[*] posted on 3-11-2009 at 12:35 PM


Relieved to hear that they all have passports. Without them, no FMT and in the case of the flyer, no boarding; let alone what the other two would have encountered at the border from our guys. Still am curious about the migra office being closed at San Ysidro.
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[*] posted on 3-11-2009 at 01:01 PM


got a call from one of the 3 stooges. said no problema at la paz INM office. 300 pesos each to obtain an FMT...dang that's cheaper then what we paid at the border! they do have to go to another place to pay and then go back to the INM office to pick it up but they said it has been a pretty easy process and the folks in the office were friendly.
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[*] posted on 3-11-2009 at 01:27 PM


Right around $20. I think that's what I last paid at the border. Wouldn't recommend doing it this way, even if it was cheaper.
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[*] posted on 3-11-2009 at 03:32 PM


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[*] posted on 3-11-2009 at 03:36 PM


Ron, I agree. no one in my park was legal...some here for 15 years. I am legal with stickers (SD) and Fm3. all have ask about South Dakota and you will see many SD plates in Todos Santos. Many have applied for FM3, because I got mine the first time, with little effort...so easy, except some passport places are not aware the the size of pictures have change...they are now the size of your thumb print box. I think most people are aware things are changing.

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I find it interesting that friends are now asking me how to get their FM3s .....

A couple , who have lived here for years, asked me how they could get an FMT :lol:

And the days of running without current tags is rapidly expireing .....

Definately in the big cities like La Paz and CSL ......

I have always played on the squeeky clean side as far as papers and tags are concerned, and I am amazed at how many never have bothered with those things.

It seems to be tightening up on all those things that people were used to letting slide :cool:

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