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[*] posted on 3-27-2009 at 04:48 PM


Pacific Tree Farm ??



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[*] posted on 3-27-2009 at 04:51 PM


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Hass avos are great... but:

Just a plug for another variety... 'Reed', the Reed avocado is like the Hass (rough skin, high oil content, excellent flavour) but is ROUND (instead of pear shaped). They are not usually sold commercially because they (get this) "don't have the shape of an avocado" for marketing purposes...!

Round is easier to cut in half and make avocado bowls, etc...

The Hass avocados from Baja Warrior's tree are excellent...!!! (Chuck, if you have too many... Elizabeth and I are coming to San Diego this weekend... hint, hint:light:;) )


Our plan is to go to the Fred Hall Fishing show on Saturday but we won't be leaving for that until 10:00 a.m.

Sunday is wide open.

I'll load you up with a dozen.


Yummy!! You have the best avos and limes in San Diego, Chuck! We are coming south early tomorrow to be in Santee by 10 am... perhaps we will detour by your hous in the AM? Thanks amigo!




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[*] posted on 3-27-2009 at 04:59 PM


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Pacific Tree Farm ??
no, bonita creek nursery.



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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 07:44 AM


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rob...

remember to put the rusty nails in the trunks...it works. i'd love to know if and when u get fruit.

diana


Where in the world did you learn about the "rusty nails"? I can't imagine that would do anything... Where in the trunk and how many?
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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 08:10 AM


I believe Pacific Tree farm is out of business. Dave at Bonita Creek Nursery handles many uncommon avocados.

http://www.bonitacreeknursery.com/page/page/4586446.htm

Grafted avocado trees come on a great variety of rootstocks that can handle heavy to light soil, determine ultimate size and tree vigor, and provide resistance to disease. A planted seed is unpredictable as to its production and after waiting 5+ years a grafted plant will have consistent results. In mainland Mexico, years ago, they planted seeds and "married" the mature tree by drilling a large hole in the trunk and packing it with mud to get the tree to fruit. Stressing trees usually results in reproductive efforts. Modern growers of Litchi and some other trees girdle branches to cause fruiting. By the way, mainland commercial growers in Mexico all use grafted trees now.
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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 08:20 AM


Jack,

I do know that stress makes trees fruit. Matter of survival instinct, if their is such a thing for inanimate objects.
Wonder if playing loud bagpipe music would work.:biggrin:




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Wonder if playing loud bagpipe music would work.:biggrin:


of course...they love music, however, i believe they would prefer classical.

about the rusty nails, i was told that it's the iron from the rust...i have always been an organic gardener at heart, although always lived in the city, a country girl at heart... why, as a young girl, i used to go to restaurants and ask for the vegetable scraps for compost and i now grow worms..., bury veggies in the ground, get free coffee grounds at starbucks, and u name it!




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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 08:53 AM


I'm heading up to CA shortly and I like the sound of the Bonita nursery - but I also have a deathly fear of the nuts at the fruit and vegetable checkpoint at Guerrero Negro - I could just see them confiscating my expensive graftings.

Perhaps I could get a letter from the boss in La Paz . .
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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 08:59 AM


Google "rusty nails" avocado
and see what you get... interesting
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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 09:00 AM


Rob,

be sure to go there and tell david i sent u. in fact, he is looking for some needy community to donate some of the trees to. i tried to find some orphanage and another community to find a way to bring them in and of course they were interested, however, not willing to do something about it. if u are going to the nursery, let me know, and i'll tell david u are coming...he is not always there.

also, i have brought many plants in...one time covered with rattan fencing... other times just exposed... the large ones i hid and the smaller ones just weren't noticed. if u do not bring lots in, perhaps it will be okay.




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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 09:06 AM


notice that it says, by appt. only...also, i'm thinking he might have some great grapes and they would grow well in baja. maybe david can give u some tips on growing the avos.



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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 09:19 AM


i got so inspired that i just called david and told him about this thread, and he told me u should be able to grow avos in baja, and he could give u some tips on how...i did mention filtering the water, and he agreed. so, remember to call him first and he can even make arrangements to be there.

i may be coming down next week to see the progress of getting electricity so may go to the nursery on the way.




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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 11:16 AM


Rob, there used to be a gov't nursery between La Paz and Todos Santos. It was just past the "Y". Used to be marked with an overturned car and a small white sign. They always had grafted avocados and grafted Mango varieties. The Santa Fe Nursery in La Paz handles some of their stuff, including grafted Litchis and Macadamia nuts. Ask around. It's there. It would be a shame to lose expensive trees at Guerrero Negro. We have done it repeatedly, but did lose one load. No amount of trying to "pay for an inspection" nor other coercion worked. Somewhere down there somebody has some nice trees. Another possibility as mentioned, is to grow seedlings and graft over the best ones to your desired varieties.
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Rob, there used to be a gov't nursery between La Paz and Todos Santos. It was just past the "Y". Used to be marked with an overturned car and a small white sign. They always had grafted avocados and grafted Mango varieties. The Santa Fe Nursery in La Paz handles some of their stuff, including grafted Litchis and Macadamia nuts. Ask around. It's there. It would be a shame to lose expensive trees at Guerrero Negro. We have done it repeatedly, but did lose one load. No amount of trying to "pay for an inspection" nor other coercion worked. Somewhere down there somebody has some nice trees. Another possibility as mentioned, is to grow seedlings and graft over the best ones to your desired varieties.


ok, now u got me...i want one of those litchii nut trees. how far is to la paz to la mision?




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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 01:07 PM


Diana...you are in San Marcos? There are many places in your area to obtain what are called "rare fruiting plants." The litchi is "air layered" and essentially grown from cuttings. Try your local chapters of the California Rare Fruit Growers (Google), or Exotica Nursery, Bonita Creek, etc. There are many back yard growers who sell and trade these uncommon plants. The Fullerton Arboretum hosts a plant sale, April 18 & 19 called Green Scene. There are vendors galore with plants, many from the CRFG. Check around and ask and they all can be found. La Paz is a looong way from La Mision and then they may not have what you are wanting.
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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 01:19 PM


jack,

i live 3 miles from exotica and have frequented that and just about every nursery i can find....including the rare fruit council. i am a plant nut, as u may gather. i have many great plants, including goji berry, surinum berry (want some?) blueberry, u name it. i was thinking la paz, so i would not lose it at the border...my heart would break. and thus far, i have not seen a litchii nut tree...of course i was not looking.

again, how far is la paz...there are a few people that i have talked with right here that i would also like to meet that live in la paz...so, more reason.

there is one just opened up right on the toll road between la mision and cantamar that i found, and they have some nice plants, but not litchii for sure. i can see u also know your plants, so perhaps u might tell me other places that might be closer to la mision.




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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 06:02 PM


Diana, it's a mere 858 miles between Ensenada & La Paz according to:

http://www.mexicanautoservices.com/baja_mileage_chart.htm

So at minimum a 2-day, daylight only drive...if you leave before breakfast & don't lallygag around any unique Baja Banos or interesting nurseries you may happen to find along the way!;)
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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 06:18 PM


carol,

thanks for that...i bookmarked that...sometimes it's embarassing when i don't know anything past ensenada! that's a lotta miles away. guess i'll forget the litchii!




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[*] posted on 3-28-2009 at 06:51 PM


Attached a photo of my 1995 avocado seedling at the beginning of this link. I am so proud of that tree, it's like one of my kids.

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[*] posted on 3-29-2009 at 07:01 AM
I'm jealous!! Great green thumb there, Bob!


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Attached a photo of my 1995 avocado seedling at the beginning of this link.]/i] I am so proud of that tree, it's like one of my kids.

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Photo added... Bob? ?? Can I help?
Bob doesn't need help, but maybe you might wanna brush up on your reading technique! :lol:
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