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[*] posted on 4-14-2009 at 06:31 PM


Great whites are a threatened species...

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[*] posted on 4-14-2009 at 06:42 PM


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[*] posted on 4-14-2009 at 07:54 PM


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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 03:18 PM


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Great whites are a threatened species...

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It's not a great white it's a mako!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortfin_mako_shark

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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 03:33 PM


A mako?:biggrin::D
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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 03:43 PM


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A mako?:biggrin::D


Maybe. The largest confirmed Mako is 1750 lbs. And the largest reported is 2200 lbs.
Has anyone ever reported a great white caught in S. Rosalia besides this one? Lots of Mako's get caught there I'm sure.
It's possible. Lots of the islands on the Pacific side have great whites but I have never seen a report of one in the SOC.
It might be difficult to tell the difference when that get that big. I think they are close cousins.




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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 03:59 PM


fishbuck, You might be right.:biggrin:
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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 04:37 PM


I think it is a mako. The white shark has a more distinct countershading line (white on the bottom, dark gray on the top) that runs the full length of the body. The mako countershading tends to get less distinct towards the rear of the body. This countershading on this shark is more like a mako. Plus the range argument clearly favors the mako. Lots of makos in the Santa Rosalia area, I am not aware of any positive identifications of white sharks in that part of the Sea of Cortez. There are lots of whites in the Pacific at about the same latitude (Isla Guadalupe), but I am not aware of any that have wandered up into the Sea of Cortez that far north. It's possible that this shark is a white but if I had to pick one I would go with a mako.



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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 05:04 PM


I would agree with you guys as the temp range seems to favor the GWS also but now I have a problem,this is a pic of the same sharks jaws cleaned up look closely hmmmm not so sure now?
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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 05:19 PM


Triangle serrated teeth belong to a GW, non serrated is a Mako.
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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 05:22 PM


If that set of jaws came from the shark pictured on the beach, it's an easy call. Great White.

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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 05:23 PM


Now check out this set of choppers,no set pattern as in the first set,I,v caught a few makos and the one thing I always noticed was the teeth:lol: what I mean is they just go every which way no pattern to them? check it out.
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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 05:37 PM


One last thing on the mako,they are thr most exciting thing with fins you can latch on to,around the 100# on up,if these things had wings there,s no telling where they might go.

We used to fish these things in SO Calif when it was not so popular as today,late 50,s 60,s and 70,s,there were lots of Mako,s in those days they were called Bonito sharks?

Staight out from Point Fermin we hooked any number of them,this pic is my first bonita shark,wooden boats and iron men:lol:
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I would agree with you guys as the temp range seems to favor the GWS also but now I have a problem,this is a pic of the same sharks jaws cleaned up look closely hmmmm not so sure now?
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The jaws in the photo look like GW teeth. How do you know those jaws are from the original shark in the 1st photo?




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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 05:50 PM


Look under Don Alley same fish sept 204 this posting.
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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 06:04 PM


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Look under Don Alley same fish sept 204 this posting.
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Okay. It drowned in a net and wasn't the target species. But ya, a great white.:cool:.




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[*] posted on 4-15-2009 at 07:36 PM


I agree that the shark looks very pregnant. Too bad we don't get a view of the ventral fins so we could see the presence or absence of claspers. I still think the shark in the photos is a mako. I have only photographed a mako once underwater, and it's not very good (shot a long time ago on Ektachrome 400, very grainy):



But see how faint the countershading line is. Contrast that with the white, where the countershading line is very distinct:



I'm stickin' to my mako ID :)




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[*] posted on 4-16-2009 at 07:04 AM


Ken the teeth the teeth,in your secound shot very closely check out the teeth,by the way those Guadalupe pics are among my very favorites
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[*] posted on 4-16-2009 at 08:58 AM


baitcast - I agree, the jaw in your picture is definitely from a white. Makos are snaggle-toothed, whites have much more regular spacings and shapes. My mako argument is getting very weak :). Thanks for the comments on the Guadalupe pictures, it was an incredible rush seeing those beautiful animals in the water.



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[*] posted on 4-16-2009 at 10:42 AM


Juan doesnt think it's a mako either and he used to fish for them...he wanted to see the tail to see if it is what is called a Toro here...bull shark because of the thickness of the belly and the regular teeth and are huge...hmm



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