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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by jdtrotter
BTW, Lizard Lips, if you do cross at San Ysidro, stay to the left which are the only lanes for Motorhomes. You cannot see the sign directling you to
those lanes untill you are already committed.
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Thanks Diane. We're posting all over each other.
Your advice to Dan up there....That's for north bound traffic...correct? |
Opps, you are correct and he did say he was bringing it down. And down, of course, means south, unless one looks at a map made in the Southern
Hemisphere---then down is North, and the Nile flows down after all. 
Sorry, off topic.
Diane
[Edited on 4-14-2009 by jdtrotter]
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thebajarunner
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Those "four foot dropoffs" are actually the phase of road building that has escaped Baja builders for years.
To make a good road surface you need to cut down about 12-24 inches (no folks, it is not four feet!!!) and then refill with base aggregate before you
pave.
That is what you are seeing.
Generally you don't experience that in the U.S. because they either keep you off the road during construction, or they keep at least a full lane
separation from the drop off.
Open your eyes (Abreojos) in the U.S.
that is standard for construction
and, amazingly, it is a good thing to see in Baja.
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Neal Johns
Never driven or ridden in a motorhome, but there were no dropoffs when I went north. |
You guys have pictures of everything else in Baja. How about this? It's history in the making. |
Always glad to oblige. Some road-making history for you, Dennis. Will have some more up-to-date photos when my camera replacement arrives and we
make return trip through Tecate.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
To make a good road surface you need to cut down about 12-24 inches (no folks, it is not four feet!!!) and then refill with base aggregate before you
pave.
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Thanks, Runner....It's good to know what they're supposed to be doing and how they're supposed to be doing it but, it was four feet. I stopped and
looked at it, dismayed by the danger aspect of it all. No cones....no barriers...no nada. Just a four foot vertical drop-off at the edge of the
road for a hundred yards or better.
I see very well and I know what I saw.
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Pompano
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Dennis, you were not hallucinating...I saw a vertical drop of that much, too..and was also wondering why no barricades or ? Another thing that kind
of spooked me was a large backhoe swinging it's engine housing into traffic with no flagman present. If that scene were in the US, the lawyers
driving by would start salivating...like Pavlov's dogs at the bell.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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thebajarunner
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Wasn't there, so could not argue with you Dennis.
What I saw, going up the hill, was cut about 18 inches.
I was trying to get a good guess on just how well they were doing it.
We call that "cut and fill"
Also, just for the record, they are actually paving in two lifts.
That, in layman's language, means they make a first pass of paving a couple of inches, then a second paving of about the same.
Well, that is what it should be, not sure they are giving that much asphalt, but at least it is a two lift process.
So much of Baja is just "roll out the dirt and slap down a single layer of paving" and that is why you get potholes.
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Come on, give the Mexican road crews some credit! The 4 ft. drop off are not forever... We drove the road in question last January and the detour was
not a problem... I sure didn't expect it to stay dirt forever... Like I said, Nomads who RECENTLY drove it said it was fine/ good/ whatever... BUT,
when you drive it... it may be different... any road may be different tomorrow from today!
Have a nice day!
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DENNIS
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Thanks Roger...You're going to take over as "instant photo reference expert" from DK with responses like this.
Sorry about your camera loss but, everything happens for a reason. Maybe you're supposed to have one of those Canon EOS 5D, Mark 2 models with a big
bag of lenses. You owe it to yourself.
Thanks again.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
So much of Baja is just "roll out the dirt and slap down a single layer of paving" and that is why you get potholes. |
Couldn't agree more, Runner. Success lies in the preparation which, in Mexico, is always loaded with mystery. They've come a long way in the last
decade with better equipment and technique but, Mexico has a way of putting her personal touch on most everything.
Thanks.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Have a nice day! |
You too, David.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by thebajarunner
So much of Baja is just "roll out the dirt and slap down a single layer of paving" and that is why you get potholes. |
Couldn't agree more, Runner. Success lies in the preparation which, in Mexico, is always loaded with mystery. They've come a long way in the last
decade with better equipment and technique but, Mexico has a way of putting her personal touch on most everything.
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Wouldn't get potholed if the bloody traffic would just stay off of it. 
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vandenberg
Wouldn't get potholed if the bloody traffic would just stay off of it. |
Very true, Ed. Tecate brewery should be paying for this road. They have most of the trucks out there.
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Bob H
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Drop offs... no drop offs... don't care (but they were there). I would not take a large motor home through that construction zone. It was bad enough
in my cabover camper. I've been driving Baja roads long enough. Don't do it.
Bob H
[Edited on 4-14-2009 by Bob H]
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Mulegena
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Ensenada - Tecate
This stretch of highway is kinda gnarly but safe enough even for larger vehicles, in my opinion,
but remember its's your rig and I'm not driving it-- you are.
Do or don't drive this stretch, or any area in question:
Its the individual's call.
I remember 15 years ago taking m 18-foot RV down that stretch from San Felipe past Coco's Corner and over to Hwy. 1. Everyone I asked said I could
not do it in an RV as it was a 4-wheel drive road only. Well, I did it easily enough and have exquisite memories for the effort. It was a
deliciously slow trip of isolation and beauty. How many can say they have ever stopped in the middle of the road, climbed on top of their RV to view
the wildflowers in panorama? On the other hand, how many can say they've unsuccessfully cleaned dried oatmeal flakes imbedded in every edge of carpet
because twice everything came flying out of the cabinets that flew open on some extra-heavy fannywhumps? For me, all part of the adventure that is
Baja!
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Dennis. I just got on this thread, but I see that you are still "In Love" with David K. Your only mad at him because, "he turned you down"!!!!!!
I can't believe Dennis that your h.o. for David can continue for so long!!!!
Get a life!!!!! If this is how you deal with what consumes your life, I feel very sorry for you. Learn to love, not hate. It makes life so much
easier. (from someone who used to be like that) But I was finally able to 'get ahold of it". I would hope you could do the same. I'm sure, though
we've never met, that you do have some positive attributes regarding 'who you are'
[Edited on 4-14-2009 by Phil S]
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Actually I am asking this question for my parents who have a 30' MH and they like to cross at Tecate especially with such a large rig.
Last time they took it up on that road they experienced some mechanical problems and had to pull over to the side, and with the help of my brother in
law who owns a tow company here in Ensenada, they were in good shape after some repairs. They broke down at the area where the construction was going
on.
Thank you all for your answers and if there are more updates throughout the week, please let me know.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Have a nice day! |
You too, David. |
Gracias!
Phil S. : Thanks, but Dennis and I can work out any issues, I think... How about some more trip reports or photos, people?
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Phil S
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I doubt that David. He's been a 'lost sole' almost since I started on this Forum. Dennis's bashing David, has gone on for years!!!!!! I don't think
he will ever "change his colors". What a shame, because everyone has something good in them, and I'm hoping that David does have that quality.
Otherwise, why would he even care about Baja????? But this has been going on too long. I know I jump in every time I see him do it, and can't help
myself. Many long years ago, I was like that, and I did get a handle on it, and was able to "get over it". It's all in his hands you know. Not your
job to "change is mind about you"!! He has to realize that it is a personality 'quirk' that makes him do it. Maybe a "father" image thing from his
childhood. I pray not!!!
[Edited on 4-21-2009 by Phil S]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Phil S
I know I jump in every time I see him do it, and can't help myself. |
It's probably because you're an Obsessive Compulsive jerk. Lay off me and go take some spelling lessons.
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Phil S
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Dennis. Only if you agree to be my teacher!!!! And don't forget that it "takes a jerk to know a jerk".
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