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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Anyone have a update on what happenned to this Kidnapped boy that the cop was beheaded over?
I also saw in the paper over the last weekend that the father of a LA Angels pitcher was kidnapped in TJ. The family negotiated his ransom and
release and won't talk about it.
[Edited on 5-4-2009 by Woooosh] |
Why would you bring that up? We'd almost forgotten. Now no one will ever come back to Rosarito.
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I know you are being facetious, but it could be your kid or a neighbor next. People shouldn't forget that narco violence and terrorism against
innocent families and children is on the rise here. It will continue until the narcos find another way to make up their lost income from drug route
losses.
Can you imagine this boys suffering every day since watching the hero cop who tried to save him being beheaded that night in front of him? I'll bet
the phone call the narcos made to his parents during that event wasn't pleasant either. I just can't let this one go I guess. At best the kid and
family are broke and screwed up for life.
[Edited on 5-4-2009 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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The kidnapped 16-year old boy was released today, apparently after the family paid a ransom.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
The kidnapped 16-year old boy was released today, apparently after the family paid a ransom. |
Good news for the boy and his family. Bad news for the industry. Mexico has to start using the death penalty.
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Agreed Dennis. And most Mexicans I talk to agree too.
But it appears that Mexico is not that different from the US in that regard...
The politicians and the courts will do what they ultimately decide they damn well please...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
The politicians and the courts will do what they ultimately decide they damn well please...
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Maybe that's where the death penalty should be introduced.
[Edited on 5-12-2009 by DENNIS]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
The kidnapped 16-year old boy was released today, apparently after the family paid a ransom. |
It's good that they got the kid back even if the family had to pay.
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Perhaps in individual circumstances, one might say the death penalty is a deterrent. However, worldwide, statistics show that it is not a deterrent.
In fact, most of the industrialized world does not have the death penalty, figuring it is a much harsher punishment for a criminal to have to spend
the rest of his life in jail afraid to drop the soap in the shower.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Perhaps in individual circumstances, one might say the death penalty is a deterrent. However, worldwide, statistics show that it is not a deterrent.
In fact, most of the industrialized world does not have the death penalty, figuring it is a much harsher punishment for a criminal to have to spend
the rest of his life in jail afraid to drop the soap in the shower. |
I have difficulty agreeing with much of this. "Most of the industrialized world" has a monumental crime problem and sending criminals to prison is
like sending a baseball player to a ball park. They're in their element and have no problem with the life among their peers.
Anyway, who cares that it's not a dynamic deterent. It's like cleaning the ring around a bathtub. It will definitly come back so, you clean it
again. And you keep cleaning it forever. The thing is, you never clean the same ring twice.
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I just today returned from an overnite trip to Ensenada, & Rosarita.
It is very sad the state of the economy there. These people have almost no business to speak of. Everthing over there is very very quiet. Almost no
people at all on streets, shops. resturants, hotels etc.
There were only 5 cars in parking lot at El Rey Sol hotel all nite. The resturant was closed. Most any place that WAS open had like two -four people
in them Had breakfast yesterday at La Fonda & only two people in the whole place. Visted with severtal shop keepers & they have no good
business. There have been 42 businesss closed in the wake of Swine Flu &
bad news in the media. It's going to be a long long summer for people in Baja. Hopefully things will get better for them?
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Last time I was in Ensenada, I stayed elsewhere, but have stayed many times at El Rey Sol. We went to the restaurant, and thus checked out the lot and
it was full. They have always had a mix of clientele, with perhaps have of their guests, Mexican. So, I'm guessing that the flu thing put a damper on
their Mexican clientele. That being said, I'm unclear as to whether you were referring to the restaurant in the hotel, or the Rey Sol on the main
street. The restaurant in the hotel has always been a little sketchy as far as operating hours and whether they were just a cantina or a restaurant.
Assuming the the cruise lines will return in about a month, it will certainly help the merchants. But the hotels and dinner restaurants need
land-based tourism. Gotta wonder about the freshness of the food in restaurants with only a few customers.
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When I was working in the orient I used to fly in and out of Singapore quite often. I still remember the very large sign hanging in the hallway
between where you picked up your luggage and customs. It simply stated:
"Carrying Drugs in Any Amount is Considered Drug Trafficking.
Drug Trafficking is Punishable by Hanging."
Under the sign was a big disposal container with a little trap door on top. I would watch as folks would stand there and stare at the sign for the
longest time before reaching into their purse, shaving kit or what have you and dump small "baggies" into the disposal container before proceeding to
customs. I will never forget one young couple who argued a bit first and then just dumped their entire ghetto blaster in. I always wondered what was
inside?
So I guess the death penalty does work as a deterrent sometimes...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
When I was working in the orient I used to fly in and out of Singapore quite often. I still remember the very large sign hanging in the hallway
between where you picked up your luggage and customs. It simply stated:
"Carrying Drugs in Any Amount is Considered Drug Trafficking.
Drug Trafficking is Punishable by Hanging."
Under the sign was a big disposal container with a little trap door on top. I would watch as folks would stand there and stare at the sign for the
longest time before reaching into their purse, shaving kit or what have you and dump small "baggies" into the disposal container before proceeding to
customs. I will never forget one young couple who argued a bit first and then just dumped their entire ghetto blaster in. I always wondered what was
inside?
So I guess the death penalty does work as a deterrent sometimes...
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Years ago I travelled overland from Thailand into Malaysia and saw a similar sign. It was unbelievable to actually see it in print. VERY affective.
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A deterrent for what?
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Perhaps in individual circumstances, one might say the death penalty is a deterrent. However, worldwide, statistics show that it is not a deterrent.
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Most all criminal penalties aren't deterrents. Mainly because of the 'theory of porportionality'. If littering and spitting on the
sidewalk were punishable by death the streets would be spotless.
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So, you're saying it's more about feeling good?
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So, you're saying it's more about feeling good? |
I'm saying a deterrent isn't a deterrent if it doesn't deter.
I'm saying that porportionality isn't deterrence. It's punishment.
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I was referring to El Rey Sol resturant on the street. The one in the hotel has not been open in quite sometime the owner told us. Just not enough
people going to it to justify keeping it open. He also told us how bad business has been even before the Swine Flu alerts, the media is killing them
with the drug violence reporting.Also much of the construction projects are very quiet & you see almost no one working on many of them.
We were two women traveling & shopping alone(from San Felipe) and found nothing to be afraid of.
We wondred how ANY of them can survive if things do not get better soon?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by meme
We wondred how ANY of them can survive if things do not get better soon? |
Well, they probably can't. Most of the shops on Lopez Mateos are rented and the rent goes on. One by one, they will close their doors forever and
soon, tumbleweed will be blowing down the street. Maybe the government will put together a "bail out plan." Then again, maybe not.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by meme
We wondred how ANY of them can survive if things do not get better soon? |
Well, they probably can't. Most of the shops on Lopez Mateos are rented and the rent goes on. One by one, they will close their doors forever and
soon, tumbleweed will be blowing down the street. Maybe the government will put together a "bail out plan." Then again, maybe not.
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What government ????????????
There is only self interest .....
If you are an American you are a target for deceit and rip-off ...
Warn your fellow Americans to stay away ...
OR stick your head back in the sand
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
Agreed Dennis. And most Mexicans I talk to agree too.
But it appears that Mexico is not that different from the US in that regard...
The politicians and the courts will do what they ultimately decide they damn well please...
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What a bunch of bull
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