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Cypress
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gnukid,  Where does the blame belong?
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fishbuck
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I better camouflage my F-150  |
Ya, just make it look like a Toyota. Then it will be safe!
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Dave
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Aren't you glad you asked?
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
gnukid, Where does the blame belong? |
| Quote: | originally posted by gunkid
Cypress, this again is the scapegoat method, instead of asking yourself who is to blame, or pursuing the logic of what isn't likely to blame to reduce
to possible explanations, community members turn on each other. In this case this is the passive aggressive approach that is to suggest that I must be
the one with the answer of who is to blame. Instead of asking me or anyone else, ask yourself. |
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid.
In this case its the unsolvable terror, we must protect ourselves, we need more police and military, where as the opposite type of investment has more
logic. Less military, less police, less jails and more community investment in education, economy and social services will have the most beneficial
impact on reducing crime and increasing opportunity to create a positive State. |
For this to work, the people of Mexico must develop a collective "sence of decency" as Obama would say. Mexicans are used to fending for themselves
and scratching out an existence from birth to death. They gave up on their police, military and gov't a long time ago. Mexico would have to become a
completely socialist state. JMHO.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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bajabound2005
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So far, this "blog", is the only news source reporting this incident. Seems the Union Trib would have been all over it.
Friends don't let friends drink white zinfandel.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabound2005
So far, this "blog", is the only news source reporting this incident. Seems the Union Trib would have been all over it. |
Maybe the victims will speak up stateside once their xanax wears off. The UT will cover it once Mexico releases it. This is the first time an
American tourist group was specifically targeted in Rosarit Beach- so, if true- it won't go unreported. No one is forthcoming with info down here-
there is no upside for them.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabound2005
So far, this "blog", is the only news source reporting this incident. Seems the Union Trib would have been all over it. |
Maybe the victims will speak up stateside once their xanax wears off. The UT will cover it once Mexico releases it. This is the first time an
American tourist group was specifically targeted in Rosarit Beach- so, if true- it won't go unreported. No one is forthcoming with info down here-
there is no upside for them. |
If this is true , it is huge , and might just be the final nail in the coffin for Rosarito Beach
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Woooosh
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This guy, el Teo- started taking over TJ and Rosarito from the AFO just last fall. He managed to corrupt and ruin 27 lives and families in six short
months. How much money does it take up front to buy at least 25 cops right away? Hard to corrupt the willing though...
May 8th, 2009 Mexican authorities arrest 25 police, 2 civilians in Tijuana
Posted: 09:45 PM ET
(CNN) — Federal authorities have arrested 25 police officers and two civilians in Tijuana, Mexico over alleged ties to organized crime and drug
trafficking, the attorney general’s office said Friday.
All but one of the accused were transferred to a federal rehabilitation center in the western Mexican city of Rincon, the office said in a written
said.
One suspect, Carrillo Osorio, faces illegal firearms charges, it added.
Federal authorities said the accused — all of them men — are linked to drug lord Teodoro Garcia Simental, also known as “El Teo,” a trafficker with
operations in northern Mexico.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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JESSE
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Apparently they where not tourists, stay tuned.
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bajabound2005
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I'm with you, Jesse. They may have been "tourists", but what were they "touring" for?
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Dave
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No Way!
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Apparently they where not tourists, stay tuned. |
But.... Then it wouldn't a plot by President Calderon to sabotage tourism and discourage gringos from moving to Mexico.
Impossible!
Right, gnukid? 
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabound2005
I'm with you, Jesse. They may have been "tourists", but what were they "touring" for? |
Why do we tend to blame the victim before the facts are in 
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bajamigo
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Seems like an obvious question to me.
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CaboRon
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajamigo
Seems like an obvious question to me. |
Can you 'splain it to me ?
Is it just human nature
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mtgoat666
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news media last rites
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabound2005
So far, this "blog", is the only news source reporting this incident. Seems the Union Trib would have been all over it. |
This week the UT layed off 190 people, including staff in the newsroom. Between this layoff and previous departures/cuts, I wonder if they do much
reporting anymore. The news media in San Diego is now mostly dead except for a couple kids doing real reporting over at Voice of San Diego -- now we
are pretty much reliant on getting our news from anonymous posters on the internnet, most of whom are prone to repeating misinformation as fact 
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajabound2005
So far, this "blog", is the only news source reporting this incident. Seems the Union Trib would have been all over it. |
This week the UT layed off 190 people, including staff in the newsroom. Between this layoff and previous departures/cuts, I wonder if they do much
reporting anymore. The news media in San Diego is now mostly dead except for a couple kids doing real reporting over at Voice of San Diego -- now we
are pretty much reliant on getting our news from anonymous posters on the internnet, most of whom are prone to repeating misinformation as fact
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I pay for the UT on-line version. How long can they charge (or will I pay) with no original content?
I though losing the Gringo Gazette was bad for Rosarito area expats- now we have no news except propaganda?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
I pay for the UT on-line version. How long can they charge (or will I pay) with no original content?
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I read the UT online for free. Why do you pay for online version? That's crazy.
BTW, for coverage of local politics, forget about the UT and go to Voice of San Diego.
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Udo
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We still have our NOMAD[\i membership for reliable Baja news
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Udo
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Bajahowodd
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You've hit on a major problem that must be solved soon, or there will be major consequenses. The LA Times has been carrying more and more Associated
Press articles and freelance stuff. The loss of vigilant local coverage by dedicated professional journalists is going to ultimately create a field
day for local political corruption.
Problem is that on-line versions of the papers don't create enough revenue, and basically, on a generational basis, younger folk just don't consider
newspapers as a source. When the day comes that everyone in the universe is blogging, who is to decide who is telling the truth?
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Bronco
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This is the Google Translation. It is not a Blog but a FTN notice?
ROSARITO, BC, May 7, 2009 (AFN) .- Three tourists from the city of San Diego, California, were attacked by an armed group the afternoon of Thursday,
according to reports provided Noticias.Los facts Border Agency were on the boulevard Popotla to match Foxploration studies at the time the purchase in
the "Curios".
Reportedly two people fell from a gray van, and threats to tourists with a revolver type pistol.
During the robbery the assailants discussed with both tourists and fired into the air and the ground, and it gunpoint to one of the visitors,
witnesses reported the incident.
He then stated that individuals are robbed of the keys of an F-150 pickup truck, which led to escape the boulevard by 2000.
There was not injured, nor were they found the crooks.
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