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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
What is amazing is how amny gringos lose all civility in the broder line and often drive like maniacs dashing ahead a few feet just to get ahead by a
car length or two, or accelerating wildly to block someone trying to merge. |
Gringos? It's not only Gringos by any stretch of the imagination. The last 500 feet approaching the gate brings out the worst of all colors who have
attained a-hole status.
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by ncampion
What is amazing is how amny gringos lose all civility in the broder line and often drive like maniacs dashing ahead a few feet just to get ahead by a
car length or two, or accelerating wildly to block someone trying to merge. I have seen many people jockeying for position doing stupid manueavers --
and if they hit someone in process, I would think they would be at fault for reckless driving. Maybe tthe driver deserves to be prosecuted. Drive
badly and pay the price.
Its probably all on video tape, if near the border, so will be easy case to decide at trial. |
Most of the bad driving/lane hopping that I see at the border is from cars with Mexican license plates on them. I use as much caution as possible to
avoid a last minute fender bender that would ruin an otherwise good Baja trip. What good is saving two minutes on an hour wait at the border?
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I agree during the week but on the weekends I have noticed cars with fair skinned faces and California plates doing their fair share of bad driving at
the border as well. My daughter was in the line to go across a few weeks back. Her line was not moving and she noticed a car up in front of her that
had broken down. It had its hood up, steam pouring out and she figured that she would just change lanes.
She put on her signal and turned the front wheels slightly as an indication that she would like to move into the lane to the right. A space opened up
and she began to slowly merge into the lane. When the woman driving the car in the lane to the right realized that my daughter might move in front of
her she floored it, slamming into the car in front of her before she could stop.
The car in front was driven by a young man with Baja plates and she was a middle aged Gringa with California plates. Of course the policia were there
in 15 seconds taking stories and my daughter easily moved into the right lane ahead of the gentlemen's car who was hit from behind and now standing in
traffic arguing with the woman.
The middle aged Gringa tried several times without success to get my daughter to pull over and my daughter said the last thing she saw in her mirror
was the woman standing there waving her arms, screaming and crying to a growing crowd.
I am sure that she went back to tell her friends and family how she got screwed over in Mexico...
What happened to the little girl was tragic and I do blame her mom, but people need to check their anger levels before getting into the border line as
well. I don't care if they drive with California or Baja plates...
[Edited on 6-5-2009 by BajaGringo]
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have you seen the kids on their hands and knees while their brother/sister stands on their back juggling while amazing everyone in the vicinity? easy
to see a kid get squished. or how about when they scamper after a loose ball...
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The lines should be partitioned and monitored. Once you've reached a certain point, there is no changing lanes. If an emergency arises, the
monitors make the required adjustments.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
have you seen the kids on their hands and knees while their brother/sister stands on their back juggling while amazing everyone in the vicinity? easy
to see a kid get squished. or how about when they scamper after a loose ball... |
I really like the jugglers, seen some pretty creative kids. I also like the parade of cheesy crap for sale. Some people hate the San Ysidro border
line, but I manage to find it entertaining. Always look on the bright side of life. (but you won't find me eating that nasty looking food they sell
in line -- isn't it all bathed in auto exhaust?)
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i can't stand it.....
on another note. the only money out of our hands goes to someone picking up trash or missing a leg or two. these invalids obviously can't earn a
living "working" like all of us so we look for them to unload our excess pesos.....
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I never understand why people feel the need to constantly switch lanes at the Border. I can see if there is an obvious hold up (broken down car) but
it seems that people are in a hurry to get in to the next lane so they can wait just as long. I love when I still end up crossing before they do.
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what everyone says is true not only americans drive crazy at the border i think i have seen about the same amount of mexicans doing the exact same
thing...i mean gosh do they really think one lane is much different from the others? there is always a few cars per lane that hold up traffic for a
while i guess i prefer to wait it out...true they should make more rules at the border so people can not change lanes at a certain point and maybe
have a space for the vendors where there is some sort of security messures like orange vests or what ever..even if it makes a small difference its
something...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SiReNiTa
i mean gosh do they really think one lane is much different from the others? |
Hate to tell you this but, they drive like idiots on the freeway too. It's just the way they are, selfish and inconsiderate.
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Never have been able to understand why they can't/won't remedy this traffic mess. Seems easy to do and a no brainer. Where the traffic comes in in 2
lanes, a few signs and flashing red lights, indicating lane division. Going to 4 lanes, then to 8 lanes, etc. All is needed is some lane barriers,
about 18 inches high and not too heavy, but not able to cross without car damage, but light enough for attendants to move if necessary. Then during
slower times (if there is such a thing) some lanes at the 8 pole could be closed and adjusted to the number of gates open. But even that's too simple
for government work.
[Edited on 6-5-2009 by vandenberg]
[Edited on 6-5-2009 by vandenberg]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
This incident is disturbing to me mostly because the Mexican authorities are considering filing charges against the US resident female SUV driver.
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Mexican authorities should learn a lesson from this and institute policies to ensure this never happens again...
But they won't.
Vendors have no business being in the middle of traffic lanes. I'll bet there are even laws against it. |
And the mexican cops are paid a small bribe to look the other way ....
The mother of the child should be charged with reckless endangerment ....
mexico is a country that is without enforcement of it's laws ....
Largely because the "police" are crooks who are regularly bribed to overlook just about anything.
American drivers beware .... if you are involved in an accident get across the border as quickly as possible ...
You can still help financially, if you so desire ....
But under NO circumstances allow yourself to be taken into custody by the men in black .....
Being mexican is no excuse for being SOS ....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by SiReNiTa
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
The fact that the Mexicans would even consider trying to charge the driver just shows how far up their arse they have their heads.
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arrow head...i know it is a mistake to charge the driver but PLEASE REFRASE...there are mexicans on here and you are speaking in a general sense...not
all of us have are arse in out head tyvm... |
Sirenita,
You must be patient with some of the insensitive dolts on the Nomad Forum
They don't have very good "vision" as they might have their heads placed in such dark places.
Your logic and compassion is evident....I like how you present a sensible perspective
Don't believe everything you think....
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I absolutely don't agree with the premise that the bad drivers are in vehicles with MX plates. Rubbish. As has been previously noted, people tend to
go outside of their cool, based upon the length of the wait. From my perspective, the vendors are a neat part of the experience. I want a show of
hands from folks that have NEVER purchased anything from a vendor while in line at the border. If you want to blame anyone for the bad behavior at the
border, try the DHS. Y'all have to remember when crossing took like 10-15 minutes at the worst. Sorry, but Osama ain't gonna be hiding in someone's
truck carrying a dirty bomb.
OOPS! was a troll just extinguished?
[Edited on 6-5-2009 by Bajahowodd]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
"A 4-year-old Tijuana girl died at a Chula Vista hospital after being struck and dragged by a sport utility vehicle in a vendor area on the Mexican
side of the international border, authorities said yesterday.
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'In a vendor area' sounds like there is an actual specific area where vendors are allowed. If so, then there should be signs indicating that and
warning drivers to take extra care. If all of the above is true, then the driver should be cited. If not then the mother should be cited.
It also states that the accident happened "on the Mexican side". So the decision to transport her to a hospital in the US was probably the fastest
way.
Just my take on this. I have to admit there are a lot of things that don't make sense in this story.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
I agree during the week but on the weekends I have noticed cars with fair skinned faces and California plates doing their fair share of bad driving at
the border as well. My daughter was in the line to go across a few weeks back. Her line was not moving and she noticed a car up in front of her that
had broken down. It had its hood up, steam pouring out and she figured that she would just change lanes.
She put on her signal and turned the front wheels slightly as an indication that she would like to move into the lane to the right. A space opened up
and she began to slowly merge into the lane. When the woman driving the car in the lane to the right realized that my daughter might move in front of
her she floored it, slamming into the car in front of her before she could stop.
The car in front was driven by a young man with Baja plates and she was a middle aged Gringa with California plates. Of course the policia were there
in 15 seconds taking stories and my daughter easily moved into the right lane ahead of the gentlemen's car who was hit from behind and now standing in
traffic arguing with the woman.
The middle aged Gringa tried several times without success to get my daughter to pull over and my daughter said the last thing she saw in her mirror
was the woman standing there waving her arms, screaming and crying to a growing crowd.
I am sure that she went back to tell her friends and family how she got screwed over in Mexico...
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Many of these posts say "they" should do this and "they" should do that...which "they" is it? This is all happening on the south side of the border
and the US "they" can only do so much. The Mexican "they" could start by filling in the potholes on the way to border crossing...then having cops
making sure school aged kids are IN SCHOOL instead of juggling for a few coins.
[Edited on 6-6-2009 by bajabound2005]
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A whole nuther country
| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by SiReNiTa
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
The fact that the Mexicans would even consider trying to charge the driver just shows how far up their arse they have their heads.
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arrow head...i know it is a mistake to charge the driver but PLEASE REFRASE...there are mexicans on here and you are speaking in a general sense...not
all of us have are arse in out head tyvm... |
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I occasionally ride to the States with Mexican friends. I'm always amused by the difference in driving habits once the border fades from view. Seat
belts, signaling when changing lanes, following at a safe distance, not speeding, no honking, not using cell phones, etc.
Amazing.
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one time in cabo pulmo with a carload of clients i was sitting at an intersection waiting to make a move through it when we were impaled by a
motorcyclist..his head up his butt, looking the other direction, plowed right into my front bumper, flew up over my hood and over my windshield then
slid back down unconscious onto the ground...only momemtarily tho...he jumped up, bleeding from many orifices, grabbed his motorcycle, apologizing
profusely, started it up and roared away...thank gawd he was a gringo....and an old one..
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
I occasionally ride to the States with Mexican friends. I'm always amused by the difference in driving habits once the border fades from view. Seat
belts, signaling when changing lanes, following at a safe distance, not speeding, no honking, not using cell phones, etc.
Amazing. |
Are you implying that the hyper-aggressive, inconsiderate, dangerous driving style of way too many Mexicans here is a matter of choice?
That IS amazing.
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lol...first of all i second baja bounds opinion i will not stand up for the mexican goverment or police because i know they are doing a horrible job
on keeping what could and would be with good people in charge of it an amazing country with lots and lots to offer to the world but unfortunantly our
political "leaders" are scum that only think of themselves...but...i cant help defending my people...lol...lets face it bad drivers are every where,
as are drugs, violence, death, etc...unfortunantly i guess mexico is a center of attention...because of our bad political system...(i hope thats why)
and this accident could have happend to any one...even me god forbid...apart from pointing figners at who was responsable for the accident i think it
was also a being in the wrong place at the wrong time...i mean...who can tell right...there are many things that do not sound right in this story but
who am i to say who's fault it was if i was not there...so i am going to end my posting on this topic by saying thank all of you that don't blame it
ALL on one person and that the people who thin is such dumb ways as to say that mexicans have our head up who knows where...you have another thing
coming buddy...my heart and prayers go out to the girls family as it does to the person driving the vehicle...good night everyone...
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