| Pages:
1
2 |
jrbaja
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4863
Registered: 2-2-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
No more boats thanks
much better to have friends with boats for sure! And there's plenty of em here
in DABAJA !
|
|
|
Larry L.
Newbie
Posts: 15
Registered: 4-12-2004
Location: Jackson, Calif.
Member Is Offline
|
|
OK. Now that I have digested all this great info. I assume that I can get my boat permit (not fishing permit) in loreto with the port captain when I
check in?
|
|
|
jrbaja
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4863
Registered: 2-2-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
Yep
but better to get it done before hand.
|
|
|
Don Jorge
Senior Nomad
Posts: 648
Registered: 8-29-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
You folks are confusing me.
Roberto, JZ and Jack get it, perhaps because they do it?
A boat permit and a fishing permit for that boat are two different documents. And an individual fishing permit, ie fishing license, is yet another
piece of paper which has nothing to do with a boat other than everybody on your boat better have one if there is even one hook on your boat as Jack
mentioned.
Those of us who actually cruise port to port in Mexico and fish at the same time therefore carry proof of insurance, a fishing permit for our boat,
documentation from the Captains of the ports of call we have hailed in Mexico, individual fishing permits for all on board and current registration
and or documentation for the boat and communication equipment on board.
So, in response to do I need a permit for my boat? Yes. Technically, two of them, if you plan to fish.
As I get older and the value of my rigs increases and my time to enjoy living decreases I have found: It my duty as captain of the vessel I command
that it is in the best interest of me and my passengers and the best interests of the country which is letting me share their resources as a guest to
follow the letter of that countries laws as currently best interpreted.
Overcatious, not hardly. When you are at the Midriff Islands in splendid isolation sitting on the hook enjoying life and the green 30 foot panga with
the 18 year olds comes around the point with that big 50 caliber bow mounted staring at you, isolation is quickly replaced with violation. It is then
when you are awful glad you have all your papers in order, you speak Spanish, you have a few sodas and jokes to share and there are no violations!!
And that is my dos centatvos!
|
|
|
Markitos
Nomad
Posts: 218
Registered: 1-4-2004
Location: San Diego/La Paz
Member Is Offline
Mood: let me check
|
|
Just to confuse everyone...
How do you go about getting a 10 year boat permit?
Sorry I just had to ask.
All that wonder are not lost
|
|
|
Jack Swords
Super Nomad
Posts: 1095
Registered: 8-30-2002
Location: Nipomo, CA/La Paz, BCS
Member Is Offline
|
|
Temp Importation Permit
First of all, all info is subject to change...generally, the TIP (Temporary Importation Permit) is obtained at the first port of entry at the Customs
office by getting the "Solicitud de Importaci?n Temporal de Embarcaciones". It is easy (have registration, passport, etc. and multiple copies of
each). Cost us nothing. You cannot legally import repair or maintenance parts without the permit. You will be given a copy and a "folio" number
under which it is registered. You must cancel it when you leave Mexico.
|
|
|
JZ
Select Nomad
Posts: 10566
Registered: 10-3-2003
Member Is Online
|
|
10 year boat import permit
10-year boat import permit
Get it at the Aduana office, at any port of entry (LA PAZ, Guaymas, etc.) or boarder crossing. There is one at K21 (21 kilometers past the border) in
Sonora and it is open 24 hours. I assume the same is true for TJ.
You definitely need a boat "import permit" for the mainland, but I don't think you need it for Baja (just like you definitely need an import permit
for your car on the mainland, but not in Baja).
Baja is a "free-zone." Some folks are trying to make Sonora in the mainland a free-zone also.
If you want to leave your boat past the time on your tourist visa you probably need an import permit.
Boat Permit
You need a, so-called, "boat-permit" if you plan to fish or have ANY fishing gear on board.
Fishing License
You also need an individual "fishing license" for everyone on board if you plan to fish. If you don't fish or have fishing gear, you don't need a
boat permit or a fishing license.
You can get boat permits and fishing licenses at www.vagundos.com or from the folks JR mentions.
Import permit for your car
If you want a 6 month import permit for your car (required in mainland, but not Baja), go to BANJERCITO at the border (should be open 24-hours).
Sonora Only Import Permits
You can get tempory permits (up to 6 months) for boat, trailer, and car for Sonora Only at k21. This restricts you to the state of Sonora. The
import permit must be given back when you leave. Whereas, the 6-month vehicle permit from BANJERCITO is multiple entry-exit.
Despachos
Now lets talk about "Despachos"... (just kidding!).
[Edited on 6-20-2004 by JZ]
|
|
|
Bob and Susan
Elite Nomad
Posts: 8813
Registered: 8-20-2003
Location: Mulege BCS on the BAY
Member Is Offline
Mood: Full Time Residents
|
|
despacho?????
Despacho in Mulege.....
http://www.despacho.org
http://www.despachocontable.com
|
|
|
JZ
Select Nomad
Posts: 10566
Registered: 10-3-2003
Member Is Online
|
|
Despachos
Mexico requires that every boat check out of the port with the Port Captain "Capitania de Puerto" every time it leaves for more than 24 hours. These
papers are referred to as "Despachos. This is the stuff Jack's post said may be changing.
None of this crap is required for trailered boats that are taken in and out of the water daily.
If you are at a place where there is no Port Captain (BOLA, Mulege, etc.), you don't need to worry about it.
[Edited on 6-20-2004 by JZ]
|
|
|
Roberto
Banned
Posts: 2162
Registered: 9-5-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
Talk about rdiculous
| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
"As far as the fishing permit, you can't get one without one of the (above) forms of valid registration, and you should get it if you are even
remotely going to have any fishing equipment on board in Mexican waters. And that, gentlement, is my $.02."
You don't need any of the above to get a fishing license. In fact, when I renew mine, I usually get 4 or 5 others for friends.
Does that also mean I need 4 or 5 boats to get more than one license? Oh brother! The nonsense spewed by some on here.
[Edited on 6/17/2004 by jrbaja] |
jr, we're talking about the BOAT FISHING permit. I realize you know more about Mexico than us poor dumb grnigos, JR, but I've been doing this for a
while - how many times have YOU brought a boat to Mexico?
When it comes to posting INFORMATION, I really do try to refrain unless I am sure I know what I'm talking about.
[Edited on 6-20-2004 by Roberto]
|
|
|
jrbaja
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4863
Registered: 2-2-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
Ridiculous
is posting someone else's statements and saying they were mine. I sure feel ridiculous. You sure proved your point.
And actually, I have been bringing boats into Mexican waters since about 1980 not that it's any concern of yours.
|
|
|
Roberto
Banned
Posts: 2162
Registered: 9-5-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
is posting someone else's statements and saying they were mine. I sure feel ridiculous. You sure proved your point.
And actually, I have been bringing boats into Mexican waters since about 1980 not that it's any concern of yours. |
The statement I quoted came directly from the post labelled under your handle. It wasn't yours? Do you get my point about the boat fishing permit and
why you must have a boat permit to get one?
|
|
|
jrbaja
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4863
Registered: 2-2-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
Roberto
This is someone else's quote. That's why it has the quotation marks. And why don't you chill out. Perhaps a trip to Baja is necessary?
"As far as the fishing permit, you can't get one without one of the (above) forms of valid registration, and you should get it if you are even
remotely going to have any fishing equipment on board in Mexican waters. And that, gentlement, is my $.02."
|
|
|
Roberto
Banned
Posts: 2162
Registered: 9-5-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by jrbaja
This is someone else's quote. That's why it has the quotation marks. And why don't you chill out. Perhaps a trip to Baja is necessary?
"As far as the fishing permit, you can't get one without one of the (above) forms of valid registration, and you should get it if you are even
remotely going to have any fishing equipment on board in Mexican waters. And that, gentlement, is my $.02."
|
JR, the first part "with quotes" was something I said. The second part, after the quotes, was you stating what I said was ridiculous.
| Quote: |
You don't need any of the above to get a fishing license. In fact, when I renew mine, I usually get 4 or 5 others for friends.
Does that also mean I need 4 or 5 boats to get more than one license? Oh brother! The nonsense spewed by some on here.
|
Are we closer now?
[Edited on 6-20-2004 by Roberto]
|
|
|
jrbaja
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4863
Registered: 2-2-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
Pardon my density
But do you need a boat fishing permit as well as everyone having Mexican Fishing Licenses? This is something I have never been informed of or asked
for.
When I got mine, numerous times, all that was required was a boat permit and a fishing license for anyone on board. And I didn't need the boat
permit to get the fishing licenses.
Has it changed?
|
|
|
Roberto
Banned
Posts: 2162
Registered: 9-5-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
To fish mexican waters you need a fishing license. The boat needs a fishing permit as well. And, the boat must me legal in Mexican waters - i.e. a
Temporaty Importation Permit. That's the letter of the law, and has been for a long time.
My initial point is that very often trailer boats don't have a TIP, because they don't go through the port captain, even though they should. As
everyone knows the letter of the law, the reality and what gringos respect are often three different things in Mexico. What's also true, is that
gringos often don't know the difference between the three until it's too late and there's a problem.
|
|
|
jrbaja
Ultra Nomad
Posts: 4863
Registered: 2-2-2003
Member Is Offline
|
|
Well, it' been a long time
so I apologize for any snide remarks or wrong information. I have never heard of a seperate "boat fishing permit". I always just got the boat permit
and a fishing permit. (two seperate things)!
Wasn't aware that three were necessary.
|
|
|
Markitos
Nomad
Posts: 218
Registered: 1-4-2004
Location: San Diego/La Paz
Member Is Offline
Mood: let me check
|
|
HUT OH  
All that wonder are not lost
|
|
|
| Pages:
1
2 |
![[*]](images/xmbforum/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
