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tripledigitken
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Judy,
Thanks Paula, didn't think if would create an "issue" though.
Ken
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bill erhardt
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Ken........Your post created an issue with me. That issue is a lust to get out there and find one of those big bruisers........
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longhairedbeatnik
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I am sorry but this picture will be posted years from now when we are wondering whatever happened to the fishery in Baja. Thanks for your response
Mulegena and for caring about these fish and ignoring the bloodthirsty bunch here who think for today and do not worry about the future generations
who will never know these fish.
Its very sad to see.
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Don Alley
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longhairedbeatnik
I am sorry but this picture will be posted years from now when we are wondering whatever happened to the fishery in Baja. Thanks for your response
Mulegena and for caring about these fish and ignoring the bloodthirsty bunch here who think for today and do not worry about the future generations
who will never know these fish.
Its very sad to see. |
If you think the sportfishery is going to be responsible for the demise of these fish you are talking out of your ass.
Your problem is not that you are thinking for today, your problem is that you are not thinking at all. You have no facts here, just prejudice. People
like you will focus their misguided ire on the sport anglers taking 5% of the catch, and ignore the commercial behemoths taking tens of thousands of
tons. So people like you can buy their canned tuna, or enjoy Sushi in places a thousand miles from the sea.
Bloodthirsty? I've done more to protect fish and fish habitat in my life than you could ever dream of, and unlike you, done it honestly. Go flock
yourself.
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bill erhardt
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Don.......All that just because longhaired from California called you bloodthirsty? What if she said something really bad about you. I have to admit
that my lust to catch one of those big yellowfin is a blood lust. I do want some of that blood on the deck of my boat. I'm sure that broadsides from
the likes of beatnick and more gentle, but pointed swipes, of the mulege type discourage many from posting fishing reports on this forum. I usually
prefer to post someplace where others can't lodge a response.
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fishbuck
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Red Rooster III
June 10th, 2009
Good evening folks. We finished off our trip today with another great day of fishing. A lot more action today on the smaller grade fish. Fish from 60
to 80 pounds. That meant releasing fish throughout the day. We kept 22 tuna: 260, 250. 225 and the last fish of the day caught by Mike Ashford, a 380
pounder. As the big 324 yesterday this beast was tail wrapped as well. Sure helps things out. What a great way to finish an epic trip. Most of the
other fish were 120 to 180 pounds, very nice grade.
The weather is still nice, lets hope it stays for another 3 days.
Andy Cates
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
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"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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Timo1
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what was that????
I don't appreciate the dumbest poster position being passed on to a new (maybe) kid on the block...when I've worked hard to hold that position
I came in here a few years back with THE dumbest post and have kept a
consistant posting scheduale...Please give credit where credit is due
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tripledigitken
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Some more pictures seeing as how this has become such a popular thread.
The many bloodthirsty folks (with their children in tow)waiting for the weigh-in
TV news crews broadcasting the event
The moment of truth
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longhairedbeatnik
They also pack in the bloodthirsty ones at the bullfights as well but that does not make it right. Use some logic and do not just post abusive crap
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You sir are the one that finds it abusive. One thing you will find out, if you are here long enough to discover, is that most here are sportsmen and
it plays a large part in their love of Baja. You have every right to disagree, just go "off topic" if you want to rant and rave with largely
missinformation regarding the Sportfishing Industry. I would suggest you educate yourself on the topic and quit making a fool of yourself in front of
so many people.
Ken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by longhairedbeatnik
They also pack in the bloodthirsty ones at the bullfights as well but that does not make it right. Use some logic and do not just post abusive crap
to make your point if you have any. |
Here we'll read anybody's rantings but please don't try stir up trouble and ruin anothers post. Start your own and "Use some logic and do not just
post abusive crap to make your point if you have any."
Bahia Concepcion where life starts...given a chance!
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I have a different perspective on this. First, I think sportfishing makes a minor impact on fish population, particularly the big pelagic species
like yellowfin. There is no incidental catch, and the fish are taken one at a time. I also do not think yellowfin are endangered (although bluefin
clearly are). I have absolutely no problem with sportfishermen who obey the laws and use their catch for food. Before I started diving and taking
pictures underwater I was an avid fisherman and killed (and ate) my share of fish including yellowfin. But the more I started seeing these
magnificent creatures underwater, I came to the point that I just can't kill any of them any more. This is hypocritical, since I eat seafood. But I
just can't do the killing myself.
Once returning from a dive at Cocos Island in Costa Rica a very large yellowfin swam by me close range. I don't know if he/she was a 300 pounder but
the fish was substantially bigger than me. I managed to fire off one frame:
For me, I would rather see them like this.
++Ken++
carpe diem!
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Got this off the NOAA website
I got a freezer full of Ahi and yellowTail and Albacore and proud of it.
Yellowfin tuna can spawn almost daily with millions of eggs each time.
They are not threatend Except for the ones in my freezer
Sustainability Status
Biomass: Yellowfin tuna biomass (Eastern Pacific, or EPO) is 96% of the biomass needed to support maximum sustainable yield (BMSY); Central and
Western Pacific (WCPO) biomass is 10% above BMSY.
Overfishing: Yes (EPO); No (WCPO)
Overfished: No
Fishing and habitat: The majority of yellowfin tuna are caught with purse-seine gear that is deployed near the surface and therefore has minimal
impacts to habitat.
Bycatch: There are bycatch issues in the purse seine fishery. Yellowfin tuna are often found in association with various species of dolphin. Some
fishermen used to take advantage of this by setting their nets around the dolphin herds in order to catch the large tuna beneath them. In the 1970s,
dolphin mortality was estimated to be hundreds of thousands of dolphins per year. Now, after continued research, improvements in fishing gear and
techniques, and adoption of international agreements, dolphin mortality has been reduced to under 1,000 dolphins annually. For more information, see
NOAA's www.dolphinsafe.gov. Most purse seine fishermen today use Fish Aggregating Devices (FADs) to target tunas, which can also result in the bycatch of
species including sharks, sea turtles, mahi mahi, wahoo, and juvenile yellowfin and bigeye tunas. The least sustainable bycatch in FAD sets is
believed to be sea turtles, small bigeye tuna, and silky and oceanic whitetip sharks. However, for stocks for which no assessments are available,
interpreting the significance of this bycatch from the point of view of the stock or the ecosystem is not possible at this time. In addition to
bycatch in sets, on-board observers have reported sea turtles entangled in webbing hanging into the water column underneath some common FAD designs.
Aquaculture: There is currently no commercial aquaculture of yellowfin tuna in the U.S.
Science and Management
Yellowfin tuna is a highly migratory species (HMS). There are two stocks of yellowfin tuna in the Pacific Ocean, eastern Pacific Ocean (EPO) and
western and central Pacific Ocean (WCPO). The Western Pacific Fishery Management Council has managed yellowfin since 1987 through the Western Pacific
Pelagics FMP. The WPFMC and the Pacific Fishery Management Council (PFMC) have taken steps to better coordinate management of pelagic fisheries, which
led to the development and implementation of the PFMC's Fishery Management Plan (FMP) for U.S. West Coast Fisheries for HMS 2004. Both Councils now
collaborate in the management of Pacific yellowfin tuna, and the Councils and NOAA Fisheries Service science centers in both regions work together in
the preparation of stock assessment and fishery evaluation (SAFE) reports as well.
In March 2007, NOAA proposed to implement Amendment 14 to Pelagics FMP to end overfishing of WCPO yellowfin tuna. This amendment would establish
federal permitting and reporting requirements for all U.S. Hawaii-based small boat commercial pelagic fishermen. This amendment also recognizes the
need for internationally coordinated management actions to ensure that overfishing of yellowfin in the Pacific ends.
In addition, since highly migratory species move throughout large areas of the Pacific and are fished by many nations and gear types, management by
the U.S. alone will not ensure that harvests are sustainable in the long term. The U.S. is a member of the Inter-American Tropical Tuna Commission
(IATTC), which is responsible for the conservation and management of fisheries for tunas and other species taken by tuna-fishing vessels in the
eastern Pacific Ocean. The IATTC manages the EPO yellowfin stock through fishing capacity limits and periodic closures of the purse seine fishery. The
IATTC performs regular assessments of this stock. As a member of IATTC, the U.S. has implemented IATTC conservation and management measures for
yellowfin tuna and bigeye tuna. The Western and Central Pacific Fisheries Commission (WCPFC), an intergovernmental organization to coordinate
management of HMS in the western and central Pacific, was established in 2004. Congress ratified U.S. membership on the Commission in June 2007. The
WCPFC has adopted conservation and management measures for yellowfin, including limiting purse seine effort to not exceed 2004 levels or the average
of 2001-2004 in waters under their jurisdiction. In addition, the catch of yellowfin tuna is not to be increased in the longline fishery from the
2001-2004 levels.
Life History and Habitat
Life history, including information on the habitat, growth, feeding, and reproduction of a species, is important because it affects how a fishery is
managed. High reproductive potential in yellowfin tuna means they may respond to management actions more rapidly than species that reproduce slowly
and in small numbers.
Geographic range: Yellowfin tuna are found throughout the Pacific Ocean, roughly within latitudes 40 degrees North and 40 degrees South but most
abundant between 20 degrees North and 20 degrees South.
Habitat: Yellowfin is a tropical species, occupying the surface waters of all warm oceans. Yellowfin favor water temperatures between 64 and 88
degrees Fahrenheit. Larval and juvenile yellowfin stay in surface waters while adults are increasingly found at greater depths.
Life span: Relatively short; likely to be a maximum of 6 to 7 years
Food: Yellowfin are opportunistic feeders at all life stages, feeding on whatever prey is available at the time. They feed primarily during the day.
Larvae feed on crustacean zooplankton. Juveniles prey on epipelagic or mesopelagic members of the oceanic community or pelagic post-larval or
pre-juvenile stages of island-, reef-, or bottom-associated organisms. Adults feed on crustaceans, cephalopods (octopus, squid, etc.), and fish. Off
the west coast of Baja California, Mexico, and southern California, pelagic red crab and northern anchovy are also important parts of the diet.
Growth rate: Growth and development are rapid in the early years of life but gradually slow thereafter.
Maximum size: 7.8 feet in length; 440 pounds in weight
Reaches reproductive maturity: Between 2 and 3 years of age at minimum lengths of 2 and 2.26 feet for females and males, respectively
Reproduction: Yellowfin tuna have high "fecundity" (reproductive potential) and spawn frequently. They are "serial spawners," meaning they are capable
of repeating spawning almost daily, with millions of eggs per spawning event.
Spawning season: Peak spawning during spring and fall
Spawning grounds: Yellowfin tuna spawn over broad areas of the Pacific. They spawn throughout the year in tropical waters and seasonally at higher
latitudes at water temperatures over 75 degrees Fahrenheit.
Migrations: Yellowfin are capable of large-scale movements and move freely within the broad regions of favorable water temperature. They are known to
make seasonal excursions to higher latitudes as water temperatures increase with season (the extent and nature of which is unknown).
Predators: Predators of larval and juvenile tuna include fish, seabirds, porpoises and other animals; predators of adult tuna include marine mammals
and sharks. There is also high degree of cannibalism of juvenile tunas among large yellowfin in the southern Philippines.
Commercial or recreational interest: Both
Distinguishing characteristics: Yellowfin have a very long second dorsal fin and anal fin, which may reach well over 20% of the fish's length. Their
coloring is black metallic dark blue and changes from yellow to silver on the belly, which has about 20 broken, nearly vertical lines. The dorsal and
anal fins and finlets are bright yellow.
[Edited on 6-16-2009 by BajaDanD]
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BajaBruno
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Timo1, you're a guy who has not lost his sense of humor watching the school chase the poison bait. 
A well done post. Thanks.
Christopher Bruno, Elk Grove, CA.
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Yellowfin tuna have high "fecundity" (reproductive potential) and spawn frequently. They are "serial spawners," meaning they are capable of repeating
spawning...
I must be part Yellowfin tuna!
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castaway$
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Eat Salmon the other pink meat.
Live Indubiously!
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BajaGringo
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Thanks Ken for the post and pictures. Most of us "get it".
Don't sweat the rest...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by castaway$
Eat Salmon the other pink meat. |
unless it's farm raised ... the only thing pink i'll eat is taco !
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Gonna have to trim his comb, before that red rooster is ready to rumble. About those fish, One of 'em would do me for at least a year.
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Interesting information from the NOAA site about the life cycle of the Yellowfin tuna. I'm wondering how the catch on the long range boats is
preserved. The fish don't look like they have been cleaned, or packed in ice. The fish look pretty beat...so, how are they stored after being
caught??
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fishbuck
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They either freeze them whole or in a ice brine tank. Most of the long range guys trade them at the dock to a cannery who gives them canned tuna.
They may keep one or two. I fillet my own but some guys have it done on the boat.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
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