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Bob H
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Ryan, did you post photos? I don't see any but just David's two photos.
Bob H
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BooJumMan
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I donno, they were relatively secret for a very long time. Up until about 5 years ago, I never saw another car (expect for a local fisherman). My dad
and his buddies have been going there since the 60s, and in fact were the ones who built the first wall at the wall. Once it got too crowded they
moved north.
Anyways, even if you post pictures, it wont matter. The fact remains that you still need to know when they break. They are VERY fickle, and the
prevailing winds blow most people home. I've camped there for 2 weeks straight in the middle of the season without seeing a wave over knee high 
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Dewey
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I started surfing in 1962. May or may not be older then Woody. Been into all of the places people are so upset about before 1965. People had been
there before me. I have learned over time that there are no secret surf spots, Only easy ones to get too and harder ones to get too. The harder
ones have less people then the easy ones.
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dtbushpilot
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Well put Dewey.......Welcome to Nomads......dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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Curt63
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News flash Tahiti and the Motus belong to Sculpin....and he's ready to enforce it! You wont know he's coming
I, too, grew up in Palos Verdes (70's) with mostly spoiled kids in a haze of drugs. Probably explains your sense of entitlement.
Careful who you drop in on around Cardiff. Sometimes I lose my balance and you never know where that board might go....
The founders of surfing, The Hawaiians, have a concept called Aloha. You should check into it and maybe change your angry signature line and your
sense of ownership over the ocean.
Aloha
No worries
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Curt63
News flash Tahiti and the Motus belong to Sculpin....and he's ready to enforce it! You wont know he's coming
I, too, grew up in Palos Verdes (70's) with mostly spoiled kids in a haze of drugs. Probably explains your sense of entitlement.
Careful who you drop in on around Cardiff. Sometimes I lose my balance and you never know where that board might go....
The founders of surfing, The Hawaiians, have a concept called Aloha. You should check into it and maybe change your angry signature line and your
sense of ownership over the ocean.
Aloha |
Aloha, and very well stated Curt!
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ncampion
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| Quote: | Originally posted by KurtG
| Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
| Quote: | Originally posted by KurtG
Beautiful stretch of coast. I've done it twice going out to Catarina Landing from Guayaquil and working my way south to Rosilillita. Both trips solo
with an S-10 Blazer. I think you can give directions for this area to everyone you meet and maybe 1 out of a 100 will actually go out there. Last
time I did the trip I took 3 days and didn't see another person in the northern 2/3's. I haven't motorcycled it yet because I haven't found anyone
who will do it with me, I have enough range on my bike to do the trip and I didn't see anything that the bike wouldn't handle except the moon dust
near Bahia Blanca but I think I could get around that. |
What bike do you ride and when do you want to go?.....dt |
I've got a KLR 650, a little heavy for real dirt riding but it works well on two track Baja roads. I've got good upgraded suspension and the 7 gallon
fuel tank as used on the military version of the bike. At age 65 my riding is a bit slower than the young guys on real dirt bikes but I keep meeting
up with them in out of the way places. Just takes me a little longer to get there! Early fall would be a great time for me to go there again. I
live in San Luis Obispo County and ride the bike from here instead of hauling it. |
Count me in on that ride. I'm a 62 year old rider on a WR400 who is always looking for a riding partner of my vintage who wants to explore Baja on
two wheels.
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woody with a view
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Sculpin
it sounds like the same thing that was going on at ob/sunset cliffs back then. i was that last generation to learn to surf without a cord. 1976 and
the boys would laugh you outta the water if you wore a cord, ESPECIALLY if you were just learning and wanted to be able to hang with the older guys on
the beach. it just made for better watermen even after everyone eventually started wearing them.
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Curt63
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Sculpin, By your own definition, you have not "earned" anyone's respect. These are just words in an online forum. No one has seen you in the line up
taking late drops in big surf. You can be anyone online if you got the right lines. But you do sound legit.
By my definition, your comments to Ryan removed any respect I reserve for strangers. So, I dont respect you.
I would guess you have probably never left the So. Cal. beach culture and think surfing is the main thing in life (boobs, doobs and tubes). I'm sure
you still hang with a tribe and wear all the right clothes, car and stickers.
There is a whole world out there that looks nothing like a So Cal beach town. I could have lived on the coast, but I don't really like the
culture/displays of wealth/crowds/transients.
As your surfing abilities decrease (they do), you will probably learn to appreciate other surfers that share and encourage each other instead of being
verbally hassled by a local 14 year old and his back up tribe. I hope your headlights never get broken.
Instead of fiercly protecting and taking waves and thinking of yourself, consider sharing and giving. You may learn that there is much joy in giving.
Aloha
No worries
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Curt63
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I did read a few of your posts and found one in which you gave GPS coordinates to a great fishing and diving spot.
Hows that for calling the kettle black?
No one cares if you were the 6th member of Nomads. Have you been a quality contributor?
I think I've read enough of your posts and said all I need to say.
No worries
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tripledigitken
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boobs, doobs, and tubes..........................
Definitely Nomad material!
edited for spelling doobs wrong, my bad.
[Edited on 6-19-2009 by tripledigitken]
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Fred-o
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Gee Whiz: The secret is out.
Yesterday I read here on the "Nomad" where many folks were unhappy that these "secret" spots are being posted, and today I read in the Punta Banda
Newletter, that they are all for sale. Boy, that didn't take very long.
Read On:
19. Coastal lands to the south of us.
Posted by: "tierrasdebaja" tierrasdebaja@yahoo.com.mx tierrasdebaja
Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:55 pm (PDT)
My friends and neighbors,
I would like to share a few pictures, and words about some coastal lands
a few hundred miles south of here, where the land is dramatically
different. My friends and clients on this recent trip were world class
big wave surfers, and kite boarders, searching for the land with the
perfect waves. This is to be their individual piece of Baja Heaven,
where they can read the coming swells by satellite map, leave a
stressful California life behind; jump into a small plane, and in an
hour or two be alone with the waves. We prefer these kinds of clients,
who do not plan large projects, but appreciate the land, and plan on
some very low key sustainable development.
See the Photos section under of Baja Lands Album, on the second page
with the Beaches of El Rosario, and the Punta Canoas shots to see this
area.
These fellows know what they want, and they know Baja waves from many
years of surfing this coast; so we spent our three days flying to many
of their favorite spots. I had driven in with Alejandra three weeks
earlier, to meet the principal private land owners, and the politicians,
and to gather maps, and drive out to the water from El Rosario. This
time we flew into Catavina, a desert town of 200, further south, and
were greeted by the local policeman who soon became our friendly guide
around town. We had studied these large parcels on google earth, and
poured over maps studying the terrain, but flying over it and landing
where possible, gives one a very different perspective.
I was impressed constantly by the raw majesty that is Baja, drawn like a
moth to light constantly to the coastline, where desert and huge water
meet. We flew by Puerto Santa Catarina, Punta San Antonio, Punta San
Fernanado, Punta Canoas, Maria's and "The Wall". This is an
area where the main highway 1 down Baja is closer to the Sea of Cortez
side than the Pacific, and where on the dirt roads which crisscross this
coastline, it is fifty miles or eighty kilometers out to this, the west
coast.
Over the last several months, Mari, Alejandra, Steve and I have become
familiar with these coastal lands which span several ejidos. To be
clear, we do not represent ejido lands, or are by any means offering
ejido "in common land" for sale to Americans (who could not
legally own such lands directly in any case). We are not selling land
exclusively to Americans either, nor Mexicans per se, but to eligible
buyers, who may need because of their nationality to hold the land as a
Mexican Corporation, or even more simply, in a bank controlled land
trust, or "fideicomiso". It is really straight forward, if one
understand the law, and improving in simplicity as time goes on.
In any case, this ejido San Jose de Las Palomas, is one of the areas we
are working with, and as was approved in their assembly, they divided up
their land among their 150+ members so that among other inland parcels,
each "ejidatario" received one ocean parcel, of approximately
one kilometer of ocean front by a kilometer deep. This is 100 hectares
per parcel, or approximately 247 acres each. These parcels are shown in
the "photos" section on the home page, and then in the Baja
Lands album, under the heading of Punta Canoas. These parcels have in
most cases received their "Certificado Parcelario", meaning that
they are ninety days from full clear title, (any deal would be made
pending title) or they have their title already. They range in price
from approximately $250,000 to a few million USD depending on their
orientation, access, beaches, water source, or owner's needs. Please
call us if you might be interested in this part of the world. The road
access from main highway #1 is through the protected "Valle de los
Cirios", sporting dozens of unique local desert species of cactus,
succulents, flowers, scrubs and trees. It is singularly spectacular from
the ground and the air.
Enjoy the pictures, and if you'd like to see more I have a bunch.
Note: Our local ejido Col. Esteban Cantu has undergone a similar
"privatization" process, and we represent many titled properties
on our coastline to the south. One that is a great deal, and the owner
is pressed to sell, is 50 acres owned by Cuco Salas with over 150 meters
of ocean front, at $350,000 firm. This is a price much below his
neighbors, driven by the fact that he is ill and needs a quick sale if
possible. See the same Baja Lands album, under Cuco's Property
series of photos…
mark
Bajalands.com
local: (646) 154-3064
US (949) 309-3376
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Ryan
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I am seriously very sorry that I posted my trip report. I can't believe all the drama it has caused! I love the Baja and wish it would stay the
pristine wonderland that it is now, but I know that as the years pass, "progress" will change everything.
How do I delete a thread?
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The Sculpin
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Ryan,
Don't worry about it.
Some of us are more ornery than others and don't know how to let it go. With this board you get a healthy dose of pee (pee?!?) and vinegar with every
helping of cake.
I'm going to go crawl back into my tequila bottle now.....good night......
Oh - and as usual, DK don't get it 'cuz DK don't surf.
[Edited on 6-19-2009 by The Sculpin]
[Edited on 6-22-2009 by The Sculpin]
Whoa there, Cowboy - pull back on those reins!
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ryan
I am seriously very sorry that I posted my trip report. I can't believe all the drama it has caused! I love the Baja and wish it would stay the
pristine wonderland that it is now, but I know that as the years pass, "progress" will change everything.
How do I delete a thread? |
Don't be... the negative Nomads are just sad lonely folks who like to see how many newbies they can blow off this site with their mighty-than-thou
attitude that because they were there first, they own that 'secret spot'.
Once you get past them, and keep posting your trip reports and photos... you will get private messages (u2u's) and emails of appreciation for standing
up to the bullies and posting great stuff.
I appreciate your trip report and I know it will never spoil any 'secret beach'... True 'Baja Nomads' take out all their trash and leave a camp area
looking as good as or better than what they found.
It is those who don't read this site or have an appreciation for Baja's natural beauty or practice clean camping who ruin places.
Hang tuff Ryan!!!
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dtbushpilot
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What DK said......
On a related topic I know a lot of places where the fishing is real good. Nobody else knows about them......I'm going to keep them secret so that
nobody will find out where they are and catch all the fish........
If you're surfing and you catch a wave do you release it so that someone else might catch it another day? Or if you catch all the waves do they come
back or does it ruin the beach for surfing ......dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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David K
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dt, you are such a trouble maker!!!
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Sharksbaja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Curt63
I, too, grew up in Palos Verdes (70's) with mostly spoiled kids in a haze of drugs. Probably explains your sense of entitlement.
Aloha |
D
Wow do you suppose we know each other? Surfed along side?Lunada Bay? Haggartys'"
Where and when did you graduate?
I kinda have to agree that up until the internet went bizerk 5 or so years ago the Sisters were not front stage center.
btw, ask a local Hawaiian how they feel about Howlies crowding their favorite spots. Secret surfing spots have never been so generously shared till
now.
mahalo
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dtbushpilot
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
dt, you are such a trouble maker!!! |
It's my mission in life......dt
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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Mike99km
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I liked Ryan's report. It wasn't full of all the details. Lets face it most of the better breaks will fill up on one swell or another. Some of us have
put a lot of time trying to figure out a spot or a area. To come on the internet and see all the beta about a place sucks. I don't post a lot for
just that reason.
If you don't think it make a difference, look at Asuncion. Most people drove right on by that place for years. I'm not finding fault with the locals
promoting their little town, it's just an example. Baja is littered with cool places filled with good caring people.
Most folks a afraid to try the unknown and maybe have a personal discovery. When you read about the bumps in the road less traveled your less likely
to turn around. The more people that travel down said road it becomes smother and and easier.
I am a hypocrite because I read the trip report section and add new places to my list because of them. I see a photo of a wave or they comment on the
size of surf I look at the swell direction and the period reports. I still look at the Almanac and Google Earth for places to go, I just don't need
the way points to get there. If I screw up in route it's on me.
I regret that it is getting harder to spell adventure with capitol A, when it comes to Baja.
You live the life you settle for.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W. C. Fields.
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