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Martyman
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I love golf! I usually pay about $20 a round sometimes as high as $70 up here in CA. Who will build a desert course in BOLA like they have in Punta
Chivato (no water)? I fear I will never play golf in baja...
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wilderone
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ken - if and when Tiger finishes his Dubai project - which may or may not be successful because of the general downturn of the real estate component
of that project - Tiger may not have the stomach for Punta Brava. Regardless, Tiger is not the developer of Punta Brava. The sales office is in
downtown San Diego where they have to helicopter people over to the property. It will take millions of dollars just to advertise and market this
property. Compare these sales techniques with that of LB and Dorado Ranch where they've been having monthly dinners, bus tours, 3-day weekends, for
years to sell a property. And like those properties, it's been 5-10 years and still only a fraction is built-out. Yeah - time will tell.
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wilderone
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Woods' Dubai course on hold. Punta Brava awaiting permits.
http://www.golf.com/golf/tours_news/article/0,28136,1903124,...
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wilderone
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Woods says Dubai golf course on hold
Published: June 05, 2009
DUBLIN, Ohio (AP) — The first golf course Tiger Woods is designing might not be the first to open. Woods said on Friday that construction on Al
Ruwaya Golf Course in Dubai is on hold because of the economic meltdown in the United Arab Emirates, pushing back the scheduled opening by at least
six months.
"It's six months as of right now," Woods said in an interview at the Memorial. "It's going to be behind schedule. Obviously, the economy has turned
over there and they've slowed down construction because of it."
The course was to open this fall, but Woods said it could be next summer. "It all depends," he said. "The economy needs to turn around. If it gets
stimulated, we can pick up to the point where we might open earlier, but who knows? It's out of my hands."
The project is called the "Tiger Woods Dubai." It includes 100 villas, 75 mansions, 22 palaces and a 360,000-square-foot boutique hotel. It also is to
feature at 139,000-square-foot clubhouse and a golf academy. The developer is Tatweer, a division of Dubai Holding, which is owned by the emirate and
its rule, Sheik Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum.
Woods said Beau Welling, his chief architect at Tiger Woods Design, has continued to travel between Dubai and two other courses under construction in
North Carolina (The Cliffs at High Carolina) and Mexico (Punta Brava).
His course in Dubai had only three holes under construction when work was suspended. "We're making sure we get the holes completed - the holes we
have," he said. "I think we have three holes right now." He said the course in Dubai needs irrigation to keep the sand in place because of arid
conditions and the wind. Woods said on one of his visits, the sweeping wind "changed the whole outline of one hole."
Woods said his courses in North Carolina and Mexico are awaiting various permits, but otherwise are on schedule. The Cliffs at High Carolina is
expected to be finished in the middle of 2010, while the Mexico course with spectacular ocean views is not scheduled to be completed until late 2010.
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wilderone
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And social and legal pressures against Punta Brava can't be ignored:
http://www.elaw.org/node/3850
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
ken - if and when Tiger finishes his Dubai project - which may or may not be successful because of the general downturn of the real estate component
of that project - Tiger may not have the stomach for Punta Brava. Regardless, Tiger is not the developer of Punta Brava. The sales office is in
downtown San Diego where they have to helicopter people over to the property. It will take millions of dollars just to advertise and market this
property. Compare these sales techniques with that of LB and Dorado Ranch where they've been having monthly dinners, bus tours, 3-day weekends, for
years to sell a property. And like those properties, it's been 5-10 years and still only a fraction is built-out. Yeah - time will tell.
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Wilderone,
You don't have to convince me that Punta Brava is a long shot. I'm on record that I don't think it will ever be completed. With a published
completion of 2010 they are dreaming. The grading would be the first item in the schedule that will need considerable construction water ie the new
delsalination plant. Has that started? I think not. I sincerely doubt that the little existing plant would generate enough water just to supply the
grading needs, let alone the massive amount of irrigation to maintain the course.
I am also aware of Engineering Firms in San Diego being consulted on this very topic. The general feeling is that a concise plan or contractor for
competing the grading is not in place.
Ken
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Bajahowodd
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Didn't they recently privatize the only public course in Los Cabos? I recall it was the nine hole course in San Jose. think it was one of the mega
developers such as Mayan. Maybe I'm wrong....
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