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k-rico
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Goat,
"high crime rate against foreigners all over north baja is indication that people are still plotting crimes against gringos"
I'm doubting your word here, set me straight, how about some examples.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Goat,
"high crime rate against foreigners all over north baja is indication that people are still plotting crimes against gringos"
I'm doubting your word here, set me straight, how about some examples. |
read the newspapers. i don't have time to read them to you.
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MrBillM
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Playing the Odds
Given the incidence of Robberies and Murder, the odds are heavily in your favor making a night-time trip.
AND, if not, look on the Bright Side. Any Terror and Pain will be Shortlived. You're likely to die within minutes of the attack so it isn't
something to get shook up over.
Buen Viaje.
[Edited on 7-1-2009 by MrBillM]
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GeoRock
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I've driven that toll road three times at night in the last 4 months and I felt safe. My husband was a bucket of nerves, because he listens to all
the people with giant fears north of the border.
I'm not saying whether he is right or I am right. Just stating our experience. The toll section is an easy road to drive.
I wonder, given how many cars drive it, what is the actual percentage of crime on that section?
I don't think anyone can say whether it is going to be safe or not for your group. All we can each do is give our own opinion and experience record.
Then you need to decide for yourself.
I drive a yellow Hummer H2. That is far more flashy then your cars. I drive the road at night. I do try to time it to drive it during daytime
hours, but that doesn't always work out.
If you have a choice of driving at night, or getting up and going at daybreak, and it makes no significant difference for your vacation timing, I
would choose daybreak.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
read the newspapers. i don't have time to read them to you. |
And we all know that the newspapers have all of the correct information.....
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Dave
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Actually...
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
I think the Mexican Hiway patrols guys quit at like 10pm. After that, your on you own. |
You will see greater patrol presence at night than during the day. Prepare to be checked at every toll booth as well as at a military checkpoint at
the Rosarito toll plaza southbound. Your biggest threat would be a breakdown but if you caravan you'll be fine.
I travel the cuota alone, often late at night and have experienced zero problems.
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
You will see greater patrol presence at night than during the day. |
Maybe a reason for that?
Ken
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Dave
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Duh!!!
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Maybe a reason for that?
Ken |
Roaches prefer the dark.
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tripledigitken
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Dave,
Exactly the point, why drive out there with the roaches if you don't have to.
Ken
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pwrslider
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Wendy..
I posted a similar thread a couple of days ago......with very different posts....
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=39610
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DENNIS
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Escoosame PWRSLIDER...But, I didn't see your question about nite-driving here.
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posted on 6-29-2009 at 02:19 PM
Driving to Cabo and back....help
What better way for a noob to interject himself into a board and ask a question that's probably been answered 1000's of times.... but here goes ( as I
put on my flame retardant suit...)
I am planning on driving from SF to Cabo and back late July to mid August...bringin kids and dog with me. ( yes..I have kid passports and will get the
health cert. for the dog.)
In recent weeks...I've been flooded with Travel Alerts from a bunch of different agencies advising not to travel to Baja due to increased cartel
shoot-outs, corrupt police and bandits on the highway looking to car-jack. I live in Oakland and am well aware of the effect of negative press...(
issues in a small area do not make the entire area a war zone...).
I've driven this route in the mid 90's and had a GREAT time...but without kids..and in a beat up ole pick up truck. This trip will be in a fairly new
GMC Denali.
Here's the question:
1. Is it still safe to make the drive?
2. Would it be wiser to go thru Tecate than TJ?
3. At what point is it safe to breathe...San Ignatious....or beyond?
We are staying at a family owned condo just outside of Cabo..
Any help would be great..especially by someone who has recently made the trip....and yes...I will be purusing the road and ride reports shortly.
I am thinking that all this press has only done one thing...and that is to reduce the amount of tourists driving down.....and I don't think violence
is an issue...but would love to hear from those that know.
thanks!
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nbacc
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Don't drive at night in Mexico! nancy
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dtbushpilot
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As a rule I try not to drive at night in Baja. The main reasons are the dangerous road and the possibility of livestock on the highway not criminals
or swine flu. I wouldn't be any more worried driving between TJ and Ensenada than LA and San Diego at night.
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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RD55
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Don't Shoot the Messenger!
5-26-09 El Vigía article (in Spanish)
Attempt to hijack semi with computer equipment on Hwy 1 near Bajamar.
5-29-09 El Vigía article (in Spanish)
| Quote: | | On (May 24, 2009), the heavy vehicle was traveling on the Tijuana-Ensenada toll road and several vehicles cut it off, forcing the driver and co-driver
to stop. |
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5-7-09 AFN Tijuana article (in Spanish)
The article states that three tourists from San Diego were robbed at gunpoint in the afternoon on Thursday, May 7, 2009 while they were buying curios
at Foxploration Studios in Rosarito Beach. The robbers took the keys to the tourists' F150 and were last seen fleeing on the Boulevard 2000.
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Both of these were in the daytime. The second one wasn't on the toll road, just close by.
As far as whether it's better to travel at night or during the day, I don't have anything to add to what's already been said.
[Edited on 7-2-2009 by RD55]
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woody with a view
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blah, blah, blah - imean, stay home. they're killing everyone everywhere...
1 killed, 4 hurt in Simi Valley shooting
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-simi-shoot2-2009jul0...
Rescuers were delayed about an hour in their efforts to treat the wounded because the gunman was still inside. The suspect eventually surrendered.
By Ruben Vives
July 2, 2009
One person was killed and four others were wounded in a shooting Wednesday at a dental office in Simi Valley.
Paramedics and firefighters were delayed by about an hour in their attempts to treat the wounded because the gunman was still inside when they
responded to the report of a shooting about 10:30 a.m. at Family Dental Care, said Bill Nash, a spokesman for the Ventura County Fire Department.
The suspected shooter later surrendered at the scene and was under interrogation, said Sgt. Adam Darough of the Simi Valley Police Department. The
man's appearance before a judge and possible charges were pending the results of the interview, Darough said.
Four people were taken to hospitals with minor to moderate injuries, and a fifth was pronounced dead at a hospital, Nash said.
Across the street from the shooting, Brenda Sharma, 48, said she was sitting behind the counter at Venture Liquors on Sinaloa Road when she heard a
siren.
Sharma said she saw an officer get out of the cruiser and draw her gun. "Next thing you know, there's 25 cops, then a SWAT team," she said.
An employee of the dental clinic who was shopping at the liquor store saw the emergency vehicles arrive and called a co-worker inside the office. The
colleague said she and another employee had locked themselves in a room to escape the shooter.
Others in the area took refuge in the store while the gunman remained inside the clinic until police advised the shop to close.
"They told me I was in the line of fire," Sharma said.
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steve5555
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My family goes down to southern baja every summer. I like to cross the San Diego border at 0430 in the morning. I am then leaving Ensenada at 6am or
so. No traffic, no livestock on that section. In fact traffic is light till 0800 or so.
I figure the banditos/drunks are sleeping by that time. I know this is not exactly what you asked but it is what I do.
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