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Bajahowodd
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Just ask Boeing about their Dreamliner.
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The daily cost of operating the ships will be the major factor of east coast via Panama vs west coast-rail via Colonet or LA. This is the reason
that the containers via rail to east and gulf coast from Calif ports got started about 30 years ago. Even European cargo was trans-shipped across US
and reloaded on ships for Europe. Ship turn around time is the big factor.
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Bajahowodd
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Another reason for the ever-larger ships.
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And as a deep water port, Colonet will be able to handle those mega container ships as well. Only two ports in the world will be larger - Shanghai and
Singapore.
We should have a much better idea by year's end how this will all pan out...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I do think the Colonet project is aiming at the US heartland. However, East coast destinations and non-US destination goods will be going through
Panama. IMHO. |
of course, the US is colapsing like decline of roman empire, so maybe investors will not invest in colonet
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BajaGringo
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If you follow the World Bank much, it is not that the mega investors are not investing anymore, just not in the US. The US will always be a market
worth pursuing as a customer though with its nearly 300 million...
[Edited on 8-18-2009 by BajaGringo]
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
If you follow the World Bank much, it is not that the mega investors are not investing anymore, just not in the US. The US will always be a market
worth pursuing as a customer though with its nearly 300 million...
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colonet is a port to service US. after US gets past the great bush implosion, US will no longer have disposable income to buy all the worlds
trinkets, TVs and SUVs, so no need for a mega port. US will be 2nd world, like spain or italy, but with bad food
[Edited on 8-18-2009 by mtgoat666]
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china>mexico>?
| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaGringo
If you follow the World Bank much, it is not that the mega investors are not investing anymore, just not in the US. The US will always be a market
worth pursuing as a customer though with its nearly 300 million...
[Edited on 8-18-2009 by BajaGringo] |
Provided the U.S. work force is again employed and making the same $$$ to spend on things, and we are able to service the National Debt.
Not even bring up the environmental issues associated with the degree of magnitude which these increasing larger and larger man made facilities have.
Think following our nuclear carriers is a better indicator
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Colonet was eyed as an alternative because the Los Angeles-Long Beach port was approaching capacity and had no room to grow. In 2007, during the peak
Summer months it was doing close to 1 million containers per month. But now the volume is off more than 25% and activity is back to year 2002 levels.
So there is lots of excess capacity at Los Angeles-Long Beach. Although they'll be going through the motions, Colonet will be on the back burner for
probably the next 10 years.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_pMscxxELHEg/Sl-qU7A1vNI/AAAAAAAAF1...
There is no way Colonet will pencil out for any investor right now. Don't forget, they not only have to build a deep water port, they also have to
build rail and roadways, and the Mexican government is not putting any money into the deal.
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Guuuyyyyys.... the port was supposed to ship to the US. Guess whattttttt????? No one wants the rail yards... so you can circle J ... all you
want. but the US still has not learned. Check out the fight Arizona has against rail yards transferring goods from Mexico
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Taking containers to Colonet is a fraction of the import/export biz. Getting the goods into the US or elsewhere into Mexico will necessarily rely on
rail and truck. Below are considerations from shippers, and, as an example of the strain that such a US importation point would create, extracts
from a summary report in a Texas region talking about the increased imports from the Sinoloa shipping container expansion are described. With the
environmental and importation considerations, US security, the additional long-distance rail leg and it's concomitant storage and trucking component
(delays?), the resulting costs may not make it a bargain to ship to Colonet. And of course, as has been discussed before, an entire town must be
created to accommodate the workers and their families. They can bid, the bidders can take the Mex. govt's money, employ their families for a while,
and walk away from it in a few years, with the usual wake of destruction behind them.
"Government and port community stakeholders may present additional obstacles to capacity enhancement. For example, the government may not make a
priority of building or improving road infrastructure so that it can accommodate high levels of container traffic by truck. Also, the risk that the
government will make regulation increasingly stringent in the areas of security, environmental protection and safety creates disincentives for new
trucking firms to enter the industry and for incumbents to invest further. A recent survey that asked the top North American ports to rank 25 capacity
factors (e.g., conditions at the terminal, labour issues and surface transport services) revealed that port managers’ greatest concern is with the
capacity constraints imposed by local roads. Second and third most important capacity factors, according to the ports surveyed, were capacity
constraints in rail and truck services."
"The “Entrada Al Pacifico” highway currently under construction in Mexico will provide the shortest route from the west coast of Mexico in the State
of Sinaloa to Chicago, Illinois. The highway will begin in the city of Topolobampo, Sinaloa where foreign interests have begun the expansion of the
port facilities to accept greater freight traffic from countries in the Far East. This highway will cross the U.S. border in Presidio, Texas near the
Big Bend National Park. The Mexican rail line will run parallel to this highway and also enter Texas in the same area. Increased accessibility to this
area will cause a rise in population on both sides of the border. With the increase in population, it is expected that the local crime rate will
increase as well. Texas Department of Transportation is not currently seeking to increase the highway infrastructure which will cause traffic
congestion and a quicker deterioration of highways. The accessibility that this corridor will create may cause a rise in smuggling operations along
the western and most desolate areas of the state. Narcotics smugglers from the Far East will have greater access to Mexico and if an alliance is
formed with established Mexican cartels will pose an even greater threat. However, if these smugglers compete against established Mexican cartels for
control of the highway and access to Texas, a rise in violence along the border can be expected. Additional personnel will be required to address
these issues. Significant increases in transportation infrastructure such as those envisioned by the Trans-Texas Corridor Act, will place additional
requirements upon the Department to provide adequate service on these expanding miles of roadway. The Trans-Texas Corridor will be a system of new
infrastructure facilities located parallel or adjacent to many of our existing highway systems, which will be designed to alleviate many
transportation problems created by NAFTA, and our population growth. Upon completion, the corridor is expected to include six vehicle toll lanes,
three in each direction, with room to expand with the population. At full development, it will have six rail lines, three in each direction to serve
as the backbone of a regional rail system serving all Texans. One will be dedicated to high-speed rail between cities, one dedicated to high-speed
freight rail, and one dedicated to commuter and freight rail. The potential increase in police traffic services and disaster emergency services
required to protect such an infrastructure is tremendous."
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I'm sure you guys noticed the new hotel being built in Colonet. That must mean something.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
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BajaWarrior
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
I'm sure you guys noticed the new hotel being built in Colonet. That must mean something. |
Like another incomplete project?
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaWarrior
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
I'm sure you guys noticed the new hotel being built in Colonet. That must mean something. |
Like another incomplete project? |
Ya, it's about half built. Didn't see alot of work going on there but maybe they were working on it.
[Edited on 8-18-2009 by fishbuck]
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If and when this project gets built, we should hire all new customs inspectors and charge a 20% duty on everything that crosses into the US.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
I'm sure you guys noticed the new hotel being built in Colonet. That must mean something. |
Hey fishbuck, port towns are famous for, well, you know, "niteclubs." Colonet may be a good place to stop for a night, or two, or three, oh, OK for a
while.
I'm all for port development. 
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
I'm sure you guys noticed the new hotel being built in Colonet. That must mean something. |
Hey fishbuck, port towns are famous for, well, you know, "niteclubs." Colonet may be a good place to stop for a night, or two, or three, oh, OK for a
while.
I'm all for port development. |
Maybe that's what the hotel is for!
I fished Mag bay a while back and stayed at a cheap little hotel.
Turns out the girls staying there were very friendly and in town to accommodate the needs of the tuna fleet sailors.
I think I'll fish there in Oct/Nov.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
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