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mulegemichael
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richard, we talked to patty in town a couple of days ago...she was happy you werent here so she wouldnt have to listen to your b-tching...just
kidding...everything is fixable, amigo...we are still alive
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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Pompano
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Hi Mike y Roz,
Glad to hear you are making progress in the house cleaning department. When I stopped by your Oasis casa the other day, you two were working way too
hard ...along with the guys you hired. We are all done mucking out at Coyote, but then, we were fortunate in missing the impact of a flooded river.
Just have a little rebuilding to do, thanks to the high winds.
Mulege is showing good signs of recovery already...through relief supplies, but also employment and patronage of local tiendas. This is what is
needed most and will directly contribute to the community we all love..by putting money/growth back into the economy.
Sorry to hear of Roz's illness and that food poisoning business. I stayed at the Caracol on the first trip down and found the room so-so, then
stayed the next trip at Malarrimo's, which was much more to my liking. I always eat at Malarrimo's too...got into a good rut a very
long time ago.
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Baja Road note:
Fellow travelers, please be cautious.
Lots of construction zones and the cattle on the roadsides makes for a much slower trip down the Baja Road.
These calves will be the ones who suddenly bolt in front of your grill. The older ones amble into the grill.
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!BEWARE!
That torn-up stretch of road south of Ensenada broke every wineglass in my motorhome..and my mother-in-law still can't find her
teeth..
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I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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mulegemichael
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weve stayed at malarrimos for years but tried caracole on the recommendation of a now "ex" friend,(just kidding gene)...never again..we'll be in our
own bed by tonight and are really looking forward to it...at seven feathers casino in oregon right now.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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Pompano
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Mulege - south river road after Jimena
This is indeed a sad sight. Much destruction along the waterfront. Our sympathies to all concerned and a firm hope that your life will
return to normal soon.
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Those are all of the storm photos I care to post in this thread...and will now look to the future for more upbeat events. Like Sharks
footnote..Mulege will indeed rise from it's ashes.
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I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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shari
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gracias amigo for your in depth reporting...
but sheesh...I'm drooling over my keyboard at those salmon...gawd how I miss that fish!!!! save me a steak will ya?
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
gracias amigo for your in depth reporting...
but sheesh...I'm drooling over my keyboard at those salmon...gawd how I miss that fish!!!! save me a steak will ya? |
No problemo, Asuncion girl...I have a few salmon rounds and will be glad to share with shari. I am about to post a thread in Non-Baja Trip Reports
describing that fishing trip on the Umpqua River, Oregon Coast. Don't want to further highjack this thread about Mulege's storm aftermath.
Anyone interested in fishing and great scenery....check it out! We had great fun and caught some fine chinooks and silvers.
Thanks to some U2U messages, I was told I had a slight problem with this thread's photos being deleted..by my own error. 
I have now corrected this mistake.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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mulegemichael
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hey roger, we both made it back north but will head back down soon with more goodies...both of us got sick on the way up and i'm sure it's cause we
let our immune systems disappear...will be better soon...see ya in mulege in a couple of weeks.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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David K
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I lived in Darwin, Australia for half a year back in 1970... All the newer houses were built 10' above ground on 'stilts'... for flood and termite
(white ant) protection. The area under the homes was used for parking, washing machine, etc. After two floods, 2 years apart, perhaps a change in the
style of construction would be wise for those who still insist on living in the flood zone?
[Edited on 9-27-2009 by David K]
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captain4tuna
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These photos are so gutwrenching. We were going to come down soon after Jimena but had and still have some health issues to be resolved.
Can someone take photos of the palapa house in Jorge's park by the water store? Inside photos would be greatly appreciated.
We saw the photo of the roof.
Thank you so much.
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
I lived in Darwin, Australia for half a year back in 1970... All the newer houses were built 10' above ground on 'stilts'... for flood and termite
(white ant) protection. The area under the homes was used for parking, washing machine, etc. After two floods, 2 years apart, perhaps a change in the
style of construction would be wise for those who still insist on living in the flood zone?
[Edited on 9-27-2009 by David K] |
David,
What you are saying about houses on stilts might make sense for a different location but it is inappropriate in this string. You are (perhaps
unintentionally) throwing mud on people who are still reeling from the devastation from this (the worst in history) hurricane to hit Mulege. If you
remember, that was Palmeto99's attitude, and his purpose was definitely malevolent. I don't think that is your purpose. I think it is just
insensitive.
The last house to be built in The Orchard (this year) right on the river, was elevated to a 2nd floor level, the first being a garage. It survived. I
doubt whether anything that was upstairs survived the ruin that this flood brought. Ironically, the only stilt houses were upriver, opposite town, and
they were wiped out by a Palm forest fire two years ago.
Regarding your accusation the we "insist on living in a flood zone" that would also include those living in town too. Your word, "insist" is the
charged word which does not apply. The locals don't have a choice. It is their home for many generations, but this hurricane did not discriminate. We
gringos, many who live along the river, do have a choices: rebuilding is not one of them...it never has been. That is a concept that has been put on
us by ignorant outsiders, over and over again.
We are not whining! We are not soliciting sympathy! Empathy would be nice, but not required. I am just trying (again) to explain our unique
circumstance.
Obviously, choosing to build there was a mistake in hindsight. Oh sure, there have been other floods through the years. Tropical Storm John, three
years ago was the worst since 1957. But you clean up and continue on. You can't walk away, unless your house has been destroyed. This time, many were
destroyed and many have to walk away. Very few can be or will be restored to their original condition. It would cost too much money.
For those of us who have been left with houses that are partially damaged, you clean up as best as you can and then use them as basically an interior
camping spot; maybe electricity and water will be restored; maybe not. Nobody I have talked to will ever consider their river house as a permanent, or
primary home again.
For the first time ever, everything we had moved upstairs to the 2nd story was ruined. Until now, this was always a safe storage space; never before
in history had this 2nd story level been breached. So, David K., that would pretty much blow a huge wet hole in your stilt house theory.
As for me, I will clean it up again without putting much money into it. Preventing mold is the critical task, and it is doable. It seems obvious that
this will keep happening year after year. I will continue to tow my boat down and use the space as headquarters for enjoyment and fishing, and get
away from the snow. Why not? Wouldn't you?
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Bob H
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Roger, thanks so much for the "after" images. It really shows you the level of devastation that took place along the river for so many homeowners.
My heart goes out to them and many others who experienced so much damage.
Bob H
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toneart
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As always, Pompano, your photos and trip reports are exceptional and much appreciated! Hope to see you soon.
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David K
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I didn't mean to insult anyone toneart, so sorry about that. This is a place where we should be able to express ideas and thoughts meant to be well
intentioned.
In a flood zone (along a river), elevated houses (such as those in tropical climates, like Darwin) seems like a better idea, that's all.
However, if the flood level was 30 feet above normal, a house built 10 feet up wouldn't fair any better, right?
Have a nice day and sorry about my earlier idea bothering you.
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toneart
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Thank you, David K.
It allowed me to do some 'splainin' of our unique situation.
Your understanding is sincerely accepted.
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Pompano
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Orchard Tropical Cottages...
A little explanation might be in order here. The Orchard in Mulege has several 'tropical cottages' and is partially the subject matter between David
K and toneart. The river bottom Tarzan tree homes were wiped out in a flood, but were quite nice while they lasted. Another 'Roberto' inspiration.
I did not want to post a personal photo, Tony, but this photo is typical of the rest of the cottages..and your cottage still stands. A lot of mucking
out, though, as you know.
Good luck and see you in Mulege around Turkey Time. We are planning a rather large party to recover spirits..and drink some....will let you know.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Vince
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Good photos, Roger. I flew down 2 weeks ago with a load of supplies for the airlift in my 182 and saw all of that. Looking forward to Oct. 8th when we
will be down for a vacation and spread a few pesos around. Hope the mosquitos aren't too bad. See you then.
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Beachgirl
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There are countless people all over this world who live on rivers. Some have no choice, others just want to be there no matter what. Could be in
Florida, could be in Sacramento, just about anywhere. Rising rivers and subsequent flooding is pretty common, even without a hurricane. Sometimes we
get hit, sometimes we don't. Now with computer programs we can pretty much move electronics and boats and other expensive stuff to high ground. So,
getting that out of the way, we diehards should get our places back in order, if that is even possible, then focus on helping others, our friends,
neighbors, and particularly the Mexican people who likely have absolutely nothing. Shouldn't that be our mindset? Really?...and yes, thank you Roger
for your amazing photos. There will be a cold one waiting for you when we get back shortly with more "stuff"...provided we can even find our patio
chairs!
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k-rico
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Deciding whether or not to live someplace that is prone to natural disasters is a risk / reward calculation. Even after hurricanes John and Jimena,
I'm still considering a second home along the Mulege river. For me, the rewards of living there balance out the risk. It's a beautiful place and the
town of Mulege is an authentic Mexican village. I'll be there next month looking around.
On the otherhand, driving 100 miles on a dirt desert road into a waterless no-man's land to see a crumbling Catholic church is, for me, far too risky
for the reward. 10 miles is even too far.
Different strokes.........
[Edited on 9-29-2009 by k-rico]
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Deciding whether or not to live someplace that is prone to natural disasters is a risk / reward calculation. Even after hurricanes John and Jimena,
I'm still considering a second home along the Mulege river. For me, the rewards of living there balance out the risk. It's a beautiful place and the
town of Mulege is an authentic Mexican village. I'll be there next month looking around.
On the otherhand, driving 100 miles on a dirt desert road into a waterless no-man's land to see a crumbling Catholic church is, fo me, far too risky
for the reward. 10 miles is even too far.
Different strokes.........
[Edited on 9-29-2009 by k-rico] |
SERIOUSLY??? THIS doesn't look like FUN, to you???
Have a nice day!
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Beachgirl
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Hey, I know that uh-road?
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