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[*] posted on 10-15-2009 at 09:51 PM


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Well, I tried inserting one, with great effort and pain, and nothing happened.....nothing till I drank a bag of pacifico and had to take a leak. It shot out like a 22 slug and popped a hole in the tank and...well...it was a big mess.
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[*] posted on 10-15-2009 at 09:58 PM


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Fleas on your huevos!!!


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[*] posted on 10-15-2009 at 10:23 PM


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The Elation isn't making any money. It's changing home ports from San Diego to Mobile Alabama.


I may be misinformed, but my understanding is that a foreign built cruise ship can not go from US port to US port, without visiting a foreign port during the trip, which explains the Ensenada link. Without Ensenada, the ship could not operate on the west coast using the 3 or 4 day cruise plan.

I guess Carnival thinks Alabama has more disposable income to spend that SoCal, because they will burn a lot more fuel doing Mobile to Cozumel than they used going to Ensenada.




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[*] posted on 10-16-2009 at 08:01 AM


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I may be misinformed, but my understanding is that a foreign built cruise ship can not go from US port to US port, without visiting a foreign port during the trip, which explains the Ensenada link.


I was under the impression that the foreign port thing had something to do with qualifications for gambleing. ???
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[*] posted on 10-16-2009 at 08:44 AM


I don't think so, Dennis. I believe any ship can gamble just by going into international waters.

It is the Passenger Service Act of 1886, a law forbidding foreign-flagged vessels from transporting passengers on one-way trips between ports in the United States, that makes the Ensenada stop necessary. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_Vessel_Services_Act_o...




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[*] posted on 10-16-2009 at 08:58 AM


Thanks Bruno...Interesting info.
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[*] posted on 10-16-2009 at 09:37 AM
Fake Viagra


Dennis can't thank you enough, seems Im still in good shape. Can't believe the $$$$ I'll save. Little weasel told me on good authority about some clinical trials done in La Jolla camp.
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[*] posted on 10-16-2009 at 01:41 PM


The Jones Act mandate of not allowing a foreign flagged vessel to travel between US ports without making a foreign stop is not dissimilar to the FAA not allowing foreign airlines to take passengers between two US cities. The requirement forced NCL to re-flag the ship it uses in the Hawaian Islands to US registry so they were able to avoid going way out of their way every trip visiting a foreign atoll in the Pacific.
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[*] posted on 10-16-2009 at 07:53 PM


Bajahowodd, I could be wrong, but I think a Jones Act ship must be built in the US to be flagged in the US. Not many cruise ships have been.



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[*] posted on 10-17-2009 at 12:21 AM


True. And not. Here's what happened.

http://www.frommers.com/articles/4963.html

[Edited on 10-17-2009 by Bajahowodd]

[Edited on 10-17-2009 by Bajahowodd]
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[*] posted on 10-17-2009 at 10:38 AM


Bajahowodd, very interesting. I see from other sources that NCL set up their own political action committee to spread the wealth to politicians, which presumably got their legislation to get around the onerous flagging rules.



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[*] posted on 10-17-2009 at 10:55 AM


Business as usual in DC, Bruno. I will say this, however. There was great support by the state of Hawaii for this. The US owned company that previously ran the inter-island cruises went bankrupt. Stop and consider that the cruises brought thousands of tourist a week to the islands, which often included pre or post cruise land packages. The big problem that persists is that by flagging one's ship US, one must comply with myriad work condition requirements, wage and benefit requirement, etc. Unlike the competitors using foreign registration, NCL couldn't just go to Jamaica or Haiti and pick up a bunch of locals, offer them three hots and a cot and put them to work on their ships. The cost structure prevents them from being competetive.
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biggrin.gif posted on 10-17-2009 at 12:30 PM


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fake Viagra.



0oooh, I'll be damned!!




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lol.gif posted on 10-17-2009 at 12:41 PM


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fake Viagra.


I guess the placebo effect did not work either, huh Dennis? :( :yawn:




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[*] posted on 10-17-2009 at 01:14 PM


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I guess the placebo effect did not work either, huh Dennis? :( :yawn:


It requires a sober mind. :lol:
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[*] posted on 10-17-2009 at 03:46 PM


Just wondering what this association between Dennis and Viagra means?:?:
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[*] posted on 10-17-2009 at 04:22 PM


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Just wondering what this association between Dennis and Viagra means?:?:


I haven't mentioned a personal association with it. If I had one, I wouldn't.
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[*] posted on 10-19-2009 at 08:09 PM
A little good news.


Because of Hurricane Rick, the cruise ships are diverting to Ensenada. They are supposed to get 10 arrivals this week. That should cheer the town up a bit.



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[*] posted on 10-19-2009 at 08:52 PM


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Dennis can't thank you enough, seems Im still in good shape. Can't believe the $$$$ I'll save. Little weasel told me on good authority about some clinical trials done in La Jolla camp.



Those clinical trials you speak of wouldnt have anything to do with the homely widows living at La Jolla camp would they?:?:
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[*] posted on 10-20-2009 at 08:12 PM


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