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DonBaja
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Don't buy cheap!!! Aerobed for us. We have had ours (2 doubles) for 5 years now and have not had any leaks or holes. I use a portable 12v jump starter
with the 12v plug. Plug a inverter into it and the bed is pumped up in about 1 min.
The only problem with air beds is that when it is really cold outside the air inside the mattress gets cold and you can never warm it up...kinda like
sleeping on a large ice block.
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woody with a view
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sheesh, and i thought my bed rug with 1/2" neoprene pad and 2 comforters was groovy! it musta been all those tuna wearing me out...
air mats suck. i've never woke up to the same amount of9 air as when i fell asleep. and we happen to favor cold climates (central desert in winter).
i've got an air mat for sale. used once! best offer for battery op.
BTW, who was the guy with the pta banda yacht club license plate rim and a pop up camper at BA tuesday?
[Edited on 11-6-2009 by woody in ob]
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
BTW, who was the guy with the pta banda yacht club license plate rim and a pop up camper at BA tuesday?
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I think it's George Conlon. He and a few others are down there somewhere.
George is a Nomad...GC.
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Paulina
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We have Cabela's self inflating sleeping pads and love them.
\"Well behaved women rarely make history.\" Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
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Skipjack Joe
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The cabela self-inflating air pad is a copy of a thermarest who originally came up with them. They're both equally good.
I have used my thermarest now for over 10 years (every night each august) without a leak developing. They're suprisingly comfortable given their
thickness (about 2 inches).
One of their best features is that they insulate you from the ground below and keep you warm. Unlike many other air matresses and pads the bottom part
of the sleeping bag feels warmer than the other areas. Basically the pad retains your body heat somehow.
http://www.usoutdoorstore.com/outlet/thermarest-neoair-sleeping-pad.html?avad=2469_c53af39
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Jack Swords
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The Thermarest neoair (Skipjack's link) is NOT self inflating. It is an extremely thin, lightweight pad intended for the ultralight backpacker. I
would not suggest it for any other purpose. It does serve that purpose well. Other Thermarest pads are self inflating (and heavier for the
ultralight fanatics).
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jack Swords
The Thermarest neoair (Skipjack's link) is NOT self inflating. |
Then what's that filler valve looking thingy at the upper left of the photo ?
My Thermorests all have it - the self inflator valve.
Skipjack confirms my suspicions; I am guessing he is around 5'9 and 150 lbs ??
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vandy
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I used to use foam rubber, then Thermarest pads, then air mattresses, but I finally settled on an excellent cot.
The good ones weigh about 40 lbs, are large, have steel cross-legs, and are suspended like a hammock (meaning you feel no steel).
The one I've been using for two years now is a Wenzel (I think from Sam's Club), cost $60, and is the most comfortable bed I have ever camped with.
One problem with any inflatable is that the temperature in your tent may get to over 100 during the day, and down to 40 at night. It'll be
over-inflated in the heat and under-inflated in the cold.
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Jack Swords
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Diver, the neoair has a valve to inflate it. It does not have the foam inside to inflate itself. YOU get to blow into it to inflate it. The
selfinflators only require a few puffs to tighten them up. The neoair must be totally inflated by your mouth. My torso length pad requires a full
25 puffs to inflate, in that little valve. The same valve is used to release the air, rendering the pad down to a waterbottle size. The size and
weight is the attraction of the neoair to ultralight backpackers. My pack weight for a full 7 days in the high Sierra is 21 pounds, thanks to these
new technologies. The neoair is also quite expensive due to the new technology involved. I use a traditional selfinflating full length Thermarest pad
when car camping.
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beachbum1A
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I have used my thermarest now for over 10 years (every night each august) without a leak developing. They're suprisingly comfortable given their
thickness (about 2 inches).
One of their best features is that they insulate you from the ground below and keep you warm. Unlike many other air matresses and pads the bottom part
of the sleeping bag feels warmer than the other areas. Basically the pad retains your body heat somehow.
http://www.usoutdoorstore.com/outlet/thermarest-neoair-sleeping-pad.html?avad=2469_c53af39 |
This is what Dennis & I have been trying to tell you. This is the way to go, beliebve me!
Just do it!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by beachbum1A
This is what Dennis & I have been trying to tell you. This is the way to go, beliebve me! |
Obviously these guys have forgotten what they learned in basic training....how to sleep while standing at attention. 
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by beachbum1A
This is what Dennis & I have been trying to tell you. This is the way to go, beliebve me! |
Obviously these guys have forgotten what they learned in basic training....how to sleep while standing at attention. |
If you put an infant in my arms, I can still do the standing "baby sway" while I sleep !
Honestly, I guess it's all a matter of taste, size, bone structure and whether your a woosie or not.
I guess I am a large, heavy, big-boned, woosie. 
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jack Swords
I use a traditional selfinflating full length Thermarest pad when car camping.
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So do I.
Couldn't find a link to one so I provided the one for Neo-Air. Didn't know the fine differences between Neo-Air and it's precursors. Still a great
product.
They come in different sizes, Diver. There's one to match anyone.
I use mine for tent camping and car camping. They're extremely comfortable. I never wake up sore, nor do I toss and turn at night.
Regarding the self-inflation. Mine is self inflating but not to a pressure I like. So I still end up inflating it. The more air, the more comfort.
The biggest drawback with it is it's narrowness. There is a tendency to partly slide off during the night.
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Jack Swords
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http://cascadedesigns.com/therm-a-rest/mattresses/camp-and-c...
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Hook
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I have found the REI copies of the Thermarests are a much better bargain than the real thing and are just as good.
But, really, it is not enough to just refer to these self inflating pads by their brand names. Once upon a time Thermarest only made pads for the
backpacker. They now have a pretty cushy line of much thicker and heavier mattresses. REI has followed suit.
For me, the combo of a cot AND a self inflating mattress is the way to go. Sleeping on your side in a cot only is not comfortable to me. Your spine
curves downward at the hips and you can wake with sore hips as well.
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beachbum1A
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| Quote: | | For me, the combo of a cot AND a self inflating mattress is the way to go. Sleeping on your side in a cot only is not comfortable to me. Your
spine curves downward at the hips and you can wake with sore hips as well. |
Especially after age 60!
Just do it!
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Packoderm
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This is the biggest one I have: http://www.rei.com/product/778151
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Packoderm
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I never considered getting a cot. It might be a good idea once I get the money for one. A plus would be that you can store stuff under it saving space
in the tent or palapa. I found this one on rei.com http://www.rei.com/product/378067
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Jack Swords
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That cot is one we have used for the past 10 years. It rolls up and fits in the sack that doubles as a storage bag on the cot. It is perfect with
the pad (needed for warmth) and keeps you off the ground. Rocky ground, muddy ground, or, as a buddy insists, away from scorpions and rattlesnakes.
We have found both under the cot upon awakening. Baja proven and also Nevada and the Mojave desert proven. It is a good product.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Packoderm
I never considered getting a cot. It might be a good idea once I get the money for one. A plus would be that you can store stuff under it saving space
in the tent or palapa. I found this one on rei.com http://www.rei.com/product/378067 |
You'll have to account for protecting the tent floor from the cot feet. Some people use squares of carpet, others use sanded discs of plywood. Very
necessary.
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