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oldjack
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Thanks for all the history and travel info... it makes my interest in Baja that much more interesting... just an observation... did you happen to
notice how "different" the folks dressed while traveling back then?? it is not just the style but the effort people made.. skirts/blouses/ties... how
many of of us still have ties or would even consider dressing up for travel...
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bonanza bucko
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David:
I heard that Arnold kept his airplane there but I never saw it there.....Lake Wohlford is indeed an "aircraft carrier" approach and it is best not to
roll out too far....you go off the end of the mountain.
It's great practice for Baja though. In Baja runways are almost always not into the wind...along a beach where the wind blows off the water....and
they are almost always rough and rougher...even the paved ones are full of holes and bumps....and some are even hard to see from the air...or
anywhere. Others, like ours at Alfonsina's, can't be found at all when the moon is new or full....under water!
The term "Bush Pilot" really fits in Baja. A pilot needs to know how to navigate without the help of the FAA and electronics (not hard...keep your
nose brown and your wingtips blue), how to stretch fuel, see the wind and WX and how to make friends in far away and different places. But....for all
those "problems" you get mostly beautiful WX, nobody to hassle you if you get a case of "buzitis" or land somewhere some bureaucrat has not decreed an
airport. Baja might be the last free country on earth.
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Barry A.
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Bonanza Bucko---------I, for one, second everything you say here, and thanks for vocalizing it.
David-------you know how much I appreciate everything you post, and I consider you the most valuable resource on the board (and there are many others,
too).
Thanks to both of you.
Barry
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David K
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Very kind... thank you!
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capt. mike
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you mean like this??
"did you happen to notice how "different" the folks dressed while traveling back then?? it is not just the style but the effort people made..
skirts/blouses/ties... how many of of us still have ties or would even consider dressing up for travel... "
i'd dress up too if i could dress her down.....
That Munoz was a class act.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Isn't kind of sad that those of us who are against big government must be silent (to be liked)... but the pro-socialism group can bring up their views
without contest? Think about it... Only my conservative replies get some here steamed... as if I have no right to reply. Why do liberals get a free
pass... is their argument so weak it requires such protection?
I don't know of anyplace I got 'political' that was not in response to something already posted here. |
DK: there you go again  Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bonanza bucko
They have the "French legal system" in which people are guilty until proven innocent...among other ills....some of which fall heavily under
Jefferson's words about the people fearing the government and not the other way around....that fall heavily on us too!!...if we don't wake up.
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bucky:
you confuse napoleonic code with France's current code.
you also are unaware that greatest recent miscarriage of justice is US practice in Guantanomo of presuming all guilty until proven innocent, then
denying people their day in court.
[Edited on 11-11-2009 by mtgoat666]
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
...........you also are unaware that greatest recent miscarriage of justice is US practice in Guantanomo of presuming all guilty until proven
innocent, then denying people their day in court...........
[Edited on 11-11-2009 by mtgoat666] |
Your opinion.....
On the other hand, I would rather have them locked up in GITMO than running around killing people..........
........Oh, and save your cyber breath, I don't need a reply, especially today.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
How many GITMO terrorists have been let free and gone on to kill more?
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how many prisoners in gitmo are terrorists? maybe 10%?
dk: i understand that you don't trust govt at all, so how can it be that you trust govt imprisoned the right people in gitmo? unlike US military, i
adhere to our legal principles and assume that all are innocent until proven guilty, and a govt/military that refuses to reveal evidence and hold
trials is not a govt to be proud of.
lux sit!
yes we can!
[Edited on 11-11-2009 by mtgoat666]
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capt. mike
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good citizens have/enjoy rights.
military combatants get treatment per Geneva.
murdering terrorists AND THOSE WHO SUPPORT SAME cannot be classified according to any civilized rules of behavior and hence deserve ZERO consideration
or consolation.
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
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bonanza bucko
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How *&^%ing stupid can MTGoat et al get!? The Constitution of the United States of America does NOT apply to ANYONE but a citizen of the USA!
Those who think we should provide lawyers and all the protections of the Constitution to these people, so called, need to be locked up with them for
being terminally dumb.
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Bajahowodd
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David. David. David. Just look at what has happened. Can't you see what I was talking about? You started this thread with a wonderful post. And it
went to Hades with political wrangling. OK if you don't want to get a different ID for your political posts. I just hope that you can see that just in
this case, injecting political commentary into a historic post just ruins it. And just for the record, my initial post took no polticial position,
other than to remind you that your great contributions here tend to become diminished when irrelevant political references are posted. Think about it.
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bajamigo
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Can someone direct me to the post about flying to Baja in 1963? Rush wannabes need not apply.
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bonanza bucko
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Bajahowoddd and others are all nice guys...I'm sure. But their niceness and comfort does not overcome the great big truth of what Jefferson said,
"The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing."......like here!
The USA is in trouble and no amount of bad mouthing those who point to that trouble with alarm in any forum can erase it.
It would be nice, peaceful and very comfortable not to have this discussion here or anywhere else. But them days are gone for a while...maybe
forever.
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bajamigo
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So every post is fair game for political huckstering?
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
A government that governs least, governs best. Get the government out of the way of a free people and watch them thrive and prosper!
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I am trying to think of examples of governments that govern least. The governments that come to mind are failed states with no government:
afganistan, somalia, etc., where govt governs least. When the US removed the govt from Iraq, I seem to recall that the country was looted and
vandalized over nite. Getting rid of govt is not the solution to your oppressed condition, DK.
The countries with highest standards of living and most stable economies that have produced greatest capitalist succcess seem to be countries with
large governments: US, Japan, UK, Germany, France, Saudi, etc., etc.
Successful countries have the economic means to implement social programs, and I think it is great that most successful countries have always
implemennted social programs upon achieving success.
The only examples of economic power house countries that have not implemented social programs are old states of Europe and Asia, and they all fell in
revolution after the rich neglected the masses. Most recently, Russia was about to take off as an economic power house, but lack of government
resulted in organized crime taking over the country. How about Nigeria, they are making tons of monney there, but the minimal govt you so love is
doing nothing but looting the wealth.
DK: if you want least governmment, why don't you move to somalia or tribal area of afghanistan/pakistan where all government is local
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Can you name any non-military government program that has been successful and thus terminated? No, they are inefficient and never end...
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DK: get a grip, old man! There are many successful government programs that have ended. Perhaps you were thinking that governmment agencies should
be terminated? For example, you are silly to think that creation of the EPA would result in a forever cleaner land and result in no further need for
EPA, and eventual shut down of agency.
One of my favorite successful govt programs was the program to put man on the moon. DK: that program is over now. Now the responsible agency is
untertaking new programs, and I dig every one of them, the programs generate fascinating scientific results and technologies.
One of my other fav programs was WPA. Lots of great art and public facilities were created by that former program.
Yes we can!
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Skeet/Loreto
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Goat; You are doing everything as usual, trying to be hatefull and negative to discredit us Americans.
Please go somewhere else , your kind are not wanted in a Country make up of many peop[le with morals.!
Yes look at France {Saved by American Lives} look at Germany {Saved by American Lives} and many More.
On this Veterans day of 2009 I beleive you are way pout of Line and should have your SORRY ASS kicked out of this Great Country so fast iyou would
never know it.
Your are a TURD, dispicip[le human being that should never be allowed on this board again, But It is a Free Country and you do not deserve it at
All?!!!!
Skeet-- Koren Veteran and Proud to be a Free American .
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
look at Germany {Saved by American Lives}
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Umm.....uh........I'm speechless. 
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mtgoat666
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Skeet,
Take your meds. Where was I criticising the precious vets?? criticism of US policy is not criticism of GI Joe or Jane. people who remain silent
when they see misjustices of their government are no better than texans
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