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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I ask the question as to why it was USCG personnel and equipment that responded? |
Perhaps the USCG is in business of overseas air evac services for large political donors or friends of friends  Somebody big must have placed the call that mobilized the military. Most of us can't call the USCG and expect
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You are so wrong (again) goat...
Sad how few know or appreciate the American forces and the good that they do... Seen Haiti lately?
The Coast Gaurd has always come to the rescue when asked... My parents weren't aware of that service when I had a severe m/c accident in 1972 south of
San Felipe... but if contacted I could have been flown out then, they learned after arriving at the hospital in El Centro.
Bi-national is not 100%, we lost a good friend that could have been saved... so have other methods of getting help. A satallite phone is worth it's
weight in gold in an emergency.
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Bajahowodd
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Ken. Amigo. Calm down. The Binational Emergency Committee is a fine organization. They do provide a needed service. We may be discussing apples and
oranges here, but my question, from the beginning, had to do with the Coast Guard being involved with land-based rescues.
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Bajahowodd
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DK- It is not the mission of the USCG to come to the assistance of any US citizen when they are in trouble. Once again, I have to ask, Does anyone
expect, as a citizen of the USA, that you will be rescued, when in any perilous situation, anywhere in the world, by the USGC, or any other US
military branch, just because you are an American? If so, you are out of your mind.!!
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Ken. Amigo. Calm down. The Binational Emergency Committee is a fine organization. They do provide a needed service. We may be discussing apples and
oranges here, but my question, from the beginning, had to do with the Coast Guard being involved with land-based rescues. |
Howard,
They do it every day! Read the mission statement I linked above.
Ken
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The Coast Gaurd has always come to the rescue when asked...
My parents weren't aware of that service when I had a severe m/c accident in 1972 south of San Felipe... but if contacted I could have been flown out
then, they learned after arriving at the hospital in El Centro.
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dk: always? where do i go on the USCG website to hear about the medical air taxi service for people vacationing in baja? if the USCG offers air
evac to US citizens in Mexico, please tell me why people are buying air evac insurance? how about that nomad who sells air evac ins her on this
board? is he/she scamming nomads by peddling air evac ins when USCG offers free evacs? will the coasties fly me home from Brazil too?
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David K
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Hey, I don't make the rules... but as one tax payer, I sure would rather the coast gaurd recue other Americans than anything else... first! I don't
think anyone should 'expect' anything... and of course one should be self-sufficiant in Baja.
I believe the Coast Gaurd flew jeans' mom from Gonzaga after she broke her hip...It's about saving lives, howodd.
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I too, have a place in Gonzaga and after reading your post (3464 James) am curious as to who it was....sounds an awful lot like my next door
neighbors. Glad to hear he is doing better and sending good thoughts their way.
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David K
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Hi Brandi! Good to see you posting again!!
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Bajahowodd
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It becomes a situation where there are no winners or losers. Ken- I looked at that same page and did not come away with the feeling that they
considered themselves to be the international rescue team.
David- If you feel like personalizing this by citing previous rescues, it's not going to work.
So many conservative folks constantly rant about the over-reach of the US government. Except when they have a friend or relative that is the recipient
of the service of that same government. You guys have to understand that this stuff costs money! Wonderful that folks survived as a result of the
efforts of members of the US armed forces. BUT, if you all don 't wish to be considered hypocrites, then stop complaining about government largesse.
You can not have it both ways.
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BajaWaverunner
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I spoke with Joaquin about this a few months ago and he said that USGC evacutions are quite common in Baja. He spoke of several evacuations that
occurred from Gonzaga just over the last year or so. The thing that he thought was interesting was that the crew don't appear to be allowed to touch
the patient while on the ground in Mexico. They apparently just place the stretcher on the ground and ask the locals to stap them in and load them
onto the helicopter. He seemed quite impressed with the USGC response for Americans and joked about how Mexicans are screwed if they have a medical
problem down there.
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
It becomes a situation where there are no winners or losers. Ken- I looked at that same page and did not come away with the feeling that they
considered themselves to be the international rescue team.
David- If you feel like personalizing this by citing previous rescues, it's not going to work.
So many conservative folks constantly rant about the over-reach of the US government. Except when they have a friend or relative that is the recipient
of the service of that same government. You guys have to understand that this stuff costs money! Wonderful that folks survived as a result of the
efforts of members of the US armed forces. BUT, if you all don 't wish to be considered hypocrites, then stop complaining about government largesse.
You can not have it both ways. |
This is hilarious, you are now a fiscal conservative.
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Oh the F-ing Humanity!!!!!! The Coast Guard came, they saved a life and left. No one came to conquer the country! God help us all with this nitpicking
and backbiting BS.
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David K
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You have selective standards or what?
U.S. Coast Gaurd to rescue U.S. citizens... why is that so hard for you to understand or desire? If your family member's life could be saved by an
air-lift, would you turn it down?
Like most LIBs you think we should LOWER our standards or quality of life to match poorer countries... You feel guilty for our greatness.
We conservatives believe in the God given freedoms that ALL people should have and become as prosperous as they desire... in all countries. It is
greedy governments that keep its people poor... or in our (U.S.) case this year, try to make as many poor as possible to gain more power over us.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaWaverunner
I spoke with Joaquin about this a few months ago and he said that USGC evacutions are quite common in Baja. He spoke of several evacuations that
occurred from Gonzaga just over the last year or so. |
So then why purchase private Medi-Vac insurance?
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tripledigitken
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTIG8R
Oh the F-ing Humanity!!!!!! The Coast Guard came, they saved a life and left. No one came to conquer the country! God help us all with this nitpicking
and backbiting BS. |
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
... or in our (U.S.) case this year, try to make as many poor as possible to gain more power over us. |
do you really believe that current govt trys to make you poor to gain power over you????????????????????????????
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selective my arse DK etc. read this carefully. you guys speak double speak. READ "Too often the case we hear of just the opposite occuring." in
one breath your complaining about taxes, another not enough suport and then defend all actions of the CG. Get real... | Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I'm glad to see that the guy who fell ill at his home near Alfonsina's is making a recovery. Perhaps out of ignorance, however, I ask the question as
to why it was USCG personnel and equipment that responded? Obviously, the cruise ship evacuation falls under their purview. Maybe I missed it
somewhere, but I didn't think international land rescues, especially of civilians, was part of their mission statement. I look forward to being
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Why would it matter what their mission statement is? They came to the aid of a US Citizen in trouble, something our Government should do more of,
IMO. Too often the case we hear of just the opposite occuring.
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"... I spent 30 years of service to the Air Force..." Well that explains alot right there!
Anyway, I hate to interupt the David K bashing but...
Is it necessary to have Med-evac insurance for the Binational lady to have the Coast Guard come and get you? And how far down will the fly?
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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David K
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No Fishbuck... she is only offering to assist in making the connections. She is a nice lady, we talked in person on a couple of occaisions (Mexico
Ted's events).
Now, back to the bashing!
(funny how ther idea of freedom of speech is not shared by the one group here... as I was responding to a slam on conservatives for balance...  )
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Bajahowodd
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They Hate Us For Our Freedoms
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Like most LIBs you think we should LOWER our standards or quality of life to match poorer countries... You feel guilty for our greatness.
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Same lame reasoning.
I really do wish there was someone on this board who actually had first-hand knowledge of sanctioned Coast Guard activities. regardless of all the
hoopla back and forth, I still do not understand how someone falling ill in their own house in a foreign country somehow merits the air response of
the USCG.
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