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I was at AAA the other day and they had a new Tacoma double cab truck like DKs for display and the side window sticker said Assembled in Tijuana, Baja
, Mexico. 55% US parts and 25% Japanese parts.
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bajaguy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
I was at AAA the other day and they had a new Tacoma double cab truck like DKs for display and the side window sticker said Assembled in Tijuana, Baja
, Mexico. 55% US parts and 25% Japanese parts. |
Where do the other 20% come from?????...Uganda?????
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Bob and Susan
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silly goose...china of course
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Packoderm
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I thought it was Canada.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
I was at AAA the other day and they had a new Tacoma double cab truck like DKs for display and the side window sticker said Assembled in Tijuana, Baja
, Mexico. 55% US parts and 25% Japanese parts. |
is that percent by volume or by weight?
that's why 4runner is better -- assembled in Japan, hopefully with unamerican materials 
so this makes me think that first fuel in tacomas is pemex
who named it tacoma? i like tacoma, but wouldn't name my car or my child after tacoma. if i had to name my car after a US city i would choose San
Fran, Seattle, Chicago, NYC or DC
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Interesting, I was at the fair gounds boat and RV show yesterday and Toyota had several of their vehicles there. I'm looking at the Tacoma 4 door 4x4
and it had a sticker saying it was made in Whittier, CA with 50% US/Canadian parts and 30% Japanese parts. Didn't say where the other 20% come from,
Pep Boys maybe.
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One thing is for sure---Toyota does have a credibility problem in some areas. That is not to say that the other companies are always up front. We
own two Toyotas now and have owned others in the past and are still thinking about buying another one---but much of this is influencing our thinking.
Toyota discovered a problem with the front brakes in the year of our Tundra, but they did not do a recall, they just informed the dealers. They
redesigned them for the 2004 models. Now if we had asked about it before our 100,000 mile warrenty expired, they would have fixed it.
What we learned was to always check and check frequently the internet about whatever vehicle you buy. Once I checked and read about the problem, we
asked the dealer, but our warranty was 5000 miles over.
We asked why they did not do a recall and they just gave us that we donīt know look. We asked why they did not tell us about the problem when they
received the notice from Toyota---well, they were told not to tell about it unless asked.
So we learned, check the internet and check often no matter what vehicle you have.
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I own a 350 Ford Diesel and owned a Toyota, truck Toyota is a great vehicle, but they just haven't been able to get into the TONKA TOY BUSINESS as
of yet, they don't even come close to being in the Diesel business.
Again if you want Toyota be a salesman and go for it you can get some almost unreal deals now, because they are not moving on the lots, they are
sitting all over the place, so wheel and deal the prices are gooooooooooooood!!!
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My brother has two Toyota pickups - one is a 2004 and the other is a new 2010. He swears that the 2010 has been in the shop already for more days than
his 2004 which he also bought new. He took the 2004 out to the desert this weekend as he just doesn't trust the new one right now. I was looking to
buy one for my Baja trips (the minvan with low ground clearance doesn't do rain/mud very well) but now I am rethinking my idea to buy Toyota. Even if
I get a really great deal on one, what good is it if it is going to give me a lot of trouble? I need a vehicle I can depend on.
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* "To make sure Bill Clinton's heart doesn't stop, doctors put in a special pacemaker made by Toyota." -- Gary B. at Dailycomedy.com
* "Toyota should borrow the ad slogan from Energizer batteries: "It keeps going and going." -- Cara Tramontano on DailyComedy.com, with some
massaging by Drive On.
* "The new model from Toyota this spring, the Toyota Apology: It gets two repair shops to the gallon" -- Bix Brillo on DailyComedy.com
* "What do Toyota and Tiger Woods have in common? They both don't know when to stop."
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/driveon/post/2010/02...
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Does anyone remember the tussle that occurred when Airbus was seeking certification for their first generation of planes? These aircraft were the
first to eliminate the mechanical connection between the c-ckpit and myriad control devices such as flaps and rudders. Fly by wire, it was called. In
2001, with the new design of the Camry, Toyota introduced an electronic throttle control. There was no direct link between the accelerator pedal and
the throttle mechanism. Gradually, they adopted this technology over they entire fleet. Reports of sudden acceleration in Toyota model goes back to
2004. Floor mats or pedal components be damned. Anyone who has experienced chip failure can understand that it is very likely that there was some
incidence of technology behind most of the incidents, Problem is that in Japan, there is just about zero interest in consumer complaints. There is a
mentality that is definitely foreign to us in the West. So, it is very probable that accelerator failure was an issue for almost a decade. But, given
the long-standing tradition of the Japonese, it was swept under the rug for years.
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Josie, like I said they are great vehicles, but since the vail has come off you are going to see many, many problems come to the surface, I would buy
one at least 6-10 years if not older, you can buy new ones for about the same price???? your decesion?
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josie
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishingmako
Josie, like I said they are great vehicles, but since the vail has come off you are going to see many, many problems come to the surface, I would buy
one at least 6-10 years if not older, you can buy new ones for about the same price???? your decesion? |
You are saying that a new one is as cheap as a used one that is 6-10 years old? Sorry but I don't understand?
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You'r right, clarification, a good one has to be in that age group. Because of the problems Toyota is experiencing, the new ones people are scared to
buy, so If you know how to wheel and deal you can find some real bagains, look at the lots, there sitting there waiting to make a deal, will it be
door (1) door (2) or door (3) go get um.
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josie
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That is what my brother said too. I would buy his 2004 but he won't sell it as he is afraid to be left stranded if the new one breaks down again.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
In 2001, with the new design of the Camry, Toyota introduced an electronic throttle control. There was no direct link between the accelerator pedal
and the throttle mechanism. |
To me the larger issue is that the more expensive cars with electronic throttle control have a fail safe system that reduces engine RPM to idle speed
when there is a conflict between the brake and the throttle.
In other words a known safety system designed to take care of a known issue was intentionally left out to keep cost down. "We'll just blame it on the
floor mats."
So when Toyota execs say that safety is their primary concern, you can think "BS, profit is job one, of course."
[Edited on 2-16-2010 by k-rico]
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I'm going looking for a really old car... one with spring on the carburetor and set screws to adjust the idle.. a cable for linkage.. might have to
build one.. a car that is.. but, this... well.. thanks you guys for getting me up to speed on what is under my hood.. have not been there in well over
10 years..
If they still have taxi cabs in Cuba that are 1951 Chevy's well, that is good enough for me..
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
In 2001, with the new design of the Camry, Toyota introduced an electronic throttle control. There was no direct link between the accelerator pedal
and the throttle mechanism. |
To me the larger issue is that the more expensive cars with electronic throttle control have a fail safe system that reduces engine RPM to idle speed
when there is a conflict between the brake and the throttle.
In other words a known safety system designed to take care of a known issue was intentionally left out to keep cost down. "We'll just blame it on the
floor mats."
So when Toyota execs say that safety is their primary concern, you can think "BS, profit is job one, of course."
[Edited on 2-16-2010 by k-rico] |
Sad that 'profit' has been turned into a bad word... the end of the free world happens when profit making/ job creating businesses are made to be
'bad' in the eyes of the masses... and the government takes over businesses that don't make a profit using money it doesn't have...
Profit is how we have prosperity, and can help others... create jobs... make new products... enjoy recreation.
You really think Toyota wants to hurt people, that they will have better business with these problems?
Sadly, seems that Toyota went global with outsourcing for products instead of staying inside of Japan for components. The defects are in products made
here in the USA or elsewhere, used in Toyotas. The problems vehicles are still minimal compared to the number of cars made, but the bad news sells
papers. My 2010 truck and my wife's 2008 Corolla have not been recalled and both are running (and braking) just fine... so far!
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
In 2001, with the new design of the Camry, Toyota introduced an electronic throttle control. There was no direct link between the accelerator pedal
and the throttle mechanism. |
To me the larger issue is that the more expensive cars with electronic throttle control have a fail safe system that reduces engine RPM to idle speed
when there is a conflict between the brake and the throttle.
In other words a known safety system designed to take care of a known issue was intentionally left out to keep cost down. "We'll just blame it on the
floor mats."
So when Toyota execs say that safety is their primary concern, you can think "BS, profit is job one, of course."
[Edited on 2-16-2010 by k-rico] |
Sad that 'profit' has been turned into a bad word... the end of the free world happens when profit making/ job creating businesses are made to be
'bad' in the eyes of the masses... and the government takes over businesses that don't make a profit using money it doesn't have...
Profit is how we have prosperity, and can help others... create jobs... make new products... enjoy recreation.
You really think Toyota wants to hurt people, that they will have better business with these problems?
Sadly, seems that Toyota went global with outsourcing for products instead of staying inside of Japan for components. The defects are in products made
here in the USA or elsewhere, used in Toyotas. The problems vehicles are still minimal compared to the number of cars made, but the bad news sells
papers. My 2010 truck and my wife's 2008 Corolla have not been recalled and both are running (and braking) just fine... so far!
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In my opinion, Toyota shifted its focus on quantity instead of quality. My 2005 Toyota is ok but not as dependable as my 1993 truck. I hoping this
turmoil gets Toyota to refocus its vision back to quality.
As for profits, yes, it is the reason companies are in business. But companies must also have social responsibility for the safety and well being of
its customers. Unfortunately, it often takes a tragedy or two before the government needs to remind businesses of this.
And lastly, I find it amusing that you're blaming the good ol' USA for Toyota's shortcomings. How would your party feel about those statements
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Barry A.
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Baja Boy----------the "party" (republicans?) would approve--------we are all about "responsibility", and criticism applies across the board no matter
where lack of it originates from.
Barry
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