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[*] posted on 2-24-2010 at 09:11 PM


Maybe be nice and see if that helps to avoid trouble and confusion.
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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 08:45 AM


I have wired two RV parks in the states. with electric boxes that have 110 gfi plugs, 30 amp three prong, and 50 amp 4 prong plugs. Have never ever seen a three prong except for dryers or wielders that match the one described. Stoves have 4 prongs athey don't match 50 amp RV plugs. They do not made a 3 prong that converts 220 to 110 volts.



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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 08:46 AM


What planet are you on gnu?

I camp all the time... most of my trips... I DO NOT have a motorhome however, as to me that is NOT camping, but instead is RV-ing...
Of course, you would actully need to read my trip reports and see the hundreds of photos I have posted, to know this.

However, we have friends and family with RVs and motorhomes who use RV parks, and have been with them when they plug in... Standard/ typical is a 110v source.

I have been to Rice and Beans several times, talked to Ricardo and stayed at his motel, so I know the place (a Viva Baja sticker placed in 2001 is still on the bar).

Hook, Capt. Mike, Bob H, are friends I have been with who were hooked up at RV parks... I think you should respect them. Baja & Back leads groups of motorhomes from Canada to Baja every year... I think he would know what is customary in RV parks.

The warning that Barry makes here is very important and helpfull...

That you have to try and tarnish Barry's amigo-like intentions with your off the wall ideas on what 'real Baja RVing' is about, and anyone else is just stupid gringo, doesn't fly here.

I bet everyone who has used electricty in Baja knows the voltage can be suspect... but in an RV park, at the post with the outlet for the motorhome to plug into, with every other RV park in North America having 110 volts... the warning was a GOOD ONE! :smug:

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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 10:23 PM


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Instead of complaining, if I were Baja & Back I would have suggested, hey I learned something this trip, always bring a voltmeter and a simple 220v to 110v adapter, you'll likely need it. That's my camping 2 cents from 6 months a year in campgrounds. Learn to be understanding and considerate, unlike some big ol RVers who should learn to be more kind to others.

I meet lots of awesome RVers along the way, we work together and I have found many to be great neighbors, perhaps Barry can learn something this trip, an apology is in order to R&B and in the future better preparation to avoid misunderstandings in order to be welcome back.[Edited on 2-23-2010 by gnukid]



Huh??? Is this guy for real??? His statement is so outer space.
I challenge him to find ANY RV park in North America that provides 220 Volt power to travelling RVers. It's obvious where the apology should be coming from - motormouth people. :fire:

BTW: Those particular plugs were wrong. An electrician from Guerrero Negro came down & misunderstood the instructions Ricardo left for him before going away. Ricardo had no intention to fry guests rigs.

Nuff said ...




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[*] posted on 2-25-2010 at 10:50 PM


Barry, there is more than one Nomad who got 'left behind' when the Mother Ship went back to Alpha Centauri! ;)



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[*] posted on 2-26-2010 at 12:16 AM


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Quote:
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Instead of complaining, if I were Baja & Back I would have suggested, hey I learned something this trip, always bring a voltmeter and a simple 220v to 110v adapter, you'll likely need it. That's my camping 2 cents from 6 months a year in campgrounds. Learn to be understanding and considerate, unlike some big ol RVers who should learn to be more kind to others.

I meet lots of awesome RVers along the way, we work together and I have found many to be great neighbors, perhaps Barry can learn something this trip, an apology is in order to R&B and in the future better preparation to avoid misunderstandings in order to be welcome back.[Edited on 2-23-2010 by gnukid]



Huh??? Is this guy for real??? His statement is so outer space.
I challenge him to find ANY RV park in North America that provides 220 Volt power to travelling RVers. It's obvious where the apology should be coming from - motormouth people. :fire:

BTW: Those particular plugs were wrong. An electrician from Guerrero Negro came down & misunderstood the instructions Ricardo left for him before going away. Ricardo had no intention to fry guests rigs.

Nuff said ...


You misunderstand, again. I pointed out that you are wrong in suggesting that the electrician made an error, he did not, he wired the outlet correctly. Obviousyl it would be better served with 110v outlets, though that's quite simple. Yes, it is incomplete, in progress and likely fine now. No, no one would suggest the absurd notions you posted that RVs run 220v, only that the wiring was correct. Do you understand the difference? Apparently not.

In any case you seem a bit arrogant, unpleasant and impatient which is not a good match for traveling Baja. As I might remind you, we are quite well served at Rice and Beans and many camps without problems whatsoever. Your post is a poor promotion for yourself as a guide.

I think you should take back your insult to the staff as you were wrong, and I think you would benefit from being more polite.

Barry, You have many miles to pass and many camps, perhaps now is a good time to be more polite, patient and more prepared or you will find yourself not only without destinations but also without new and trusting clients.

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[*] posted on 2-26-2010 at 12:26 AM


I spoke to Ricardo, he is pretty unhappy with Barry. It's probably too late to apologize.

If you are coming to LB, better bring flowers and keep your fancy-pants complaints to yourself.


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[*] posted on 2-26-2010 at 12:30 AM


What a thread... everyone disagrees!

who do you choose to believe?

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[*] posted on 2-26-2010 at 12:41 AM


Definitely a misunderstanding, the thing is 30amp 220v is totally normal, which can also be wired as 30amp 110v, they just didn't have the 110v outlets installed yet. The problem is that Barry says 220v with proper outlet is an error which it is not. He stated the outlet was standard 220v. Does that make any sense to any reasonable person?

And, if Barry spoke to the electrician and came to an understanding why did he insist on insulting the guy in public after they spoke and after the issue was clear and being addressed to add the 110v outlets? Its quite arrogant on Barry's part which is not at all new and frankly unwarranted and unpleasant. If Barry thinks that having a big RV and some cash gives him a free pass to be rude he is mistaken. At this point I would suggest that Barry is on a short leash.

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[*] posted on 2-26-2010 at 07:23 AM


Only appears to be ONE arrogant burro here ; GNU !!

1. 220 outlets do NOT belong at an RV connection at any time.
2. Barry was doing a good deed to others by letting us know.
3. Ricardo has no issue with Barry; should be with his electrician.
(Or he just wantes to make money and doesn't care about his client's RVs.)
4. If someone HAD burned up their RV with 220, do you think Ricardo would have paid ? NO !!
5. Barry is right; you must be from outer space.
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[*] posted on 2-26-2010 at 07:46 AM


anywho, regardless of the electrical supply, i have never been too impressed with the rice and beans joint relative to the so many prettier and better places to stay in san ignacio.

i am still wondering, why do RVs need to stay at a hotel parking lot when they are surrounded by millions of acres of open space? what is the point of having an RV if you are going to park at some mediocre campground and be side by side with another RV?

newkid, like your style. tell the arm chair electricians how it is!!!!!
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[*] posted on 2-26-2010 at 08:55 AM


What a bunch of missinformation in this post.

Racers relying on 220v for their welding equip?

RV campgrounds having 220v?
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[*] posted on 2-26-2010 at 09:18 AM


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anywho, regardless of the electrical supply, i have never been too impressed with the rice and beans joint relative to the so many prettier and better places to stay in san ignacio.

i am still wondering, why do RVs need to stay at a hotel parking lot when they are surrounded by millions of acres of open space? what is the point of having an RV if you are going to park at some mediocre campground and be side by side with another RV?

newkid, like your style. tell the arm chair electricians how it is!!!!!


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[*] posted on 3-8-2010 at 08:14 AM


I've been out of the loop for a couple off weeks. Regardless of what the correct way is to wire an RV park, or who has good or bad manners, or what the best way to travel in Baja is;

does anyone know if there is now 110 service at Rice and Beans?
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