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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
They need to give Tourists a financial incentive to visit- the pricing on everything is still too high, based on the "goose-that-laid-the-golden egg"
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Nope...Gotta disagree. The "Security Incentive" is still THE factor to be dealt with, real or not. People need proof that security is back in
place.
Now, I don't know exactly how that would be implemented, but it has to be done. A bargain hotel room will be nothing if one can't sleep at night.
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I don't think there is any one PR campaign that could do it, but $400K condos and $25 fried lobster dinners are an obstacle unto themselves and make a
day-trip or potential real estate investment a non-starter. They can hit the Ortega's Lobster Buffet in San Diego and buy an Imperial Beach
oceanfront condo for less. The list of negatives is long and incentives short.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Shame on you, Woooosh. Don't you know how bad these reports are for tourism? 
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Mybe you are happier with this version that I saw:
A Mexican visiting Newport Beach and his girlfriend were ambushed a few meters from the beach. They beat him to take money and his car. As a result of
the assault, an ambulance had to be called to assist the Mexican- Pedro Gonzales, 33, who moments earlier had been beaten on the head with a metal
crossbar. He was in the only hospital in this town near the beach with his girlfriend named Maria Medina, both are residents of Escondido.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
A Mexican visiting Newport Beach and his girlfriend were ambushed a few meters from the beach. |
The only people in Newport who use the metric system have leaf blowers strapped to their backs.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
They need to give Tourists a financial incentive to visit- the pricing on everything is still too high, based on the "goose-that-laid-the-golden egg"
years, not today's economy. |
Nope...Gotta disagree. The "Security Incentive" is still THE factor to be dealt with, real or not. People need proof that security is back in
place.
Now, I don't know exactly how that would be implemented, but it has to be done. A bargain hotel room will be nothing if one can't sleep at night.
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Nobody is gonna venture south until we quit seeing headlines like this each and every single day on every
news service there is.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04/24/mexican-police-offic...
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Many people are more sophisticated than to associate the trouble in Juarez with the entire country. It would be like foreigners passing on a trip to
Disney World because there were riots in the streets of Detroit. I agree to a certain extent that virtually any crime news has some chilling effect.
But I can't see it as a total deal breaker for everyone.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Shame on you, Woooosh. Don't you know how bad these reports are for tourism?
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Mybe you are happier with this version that I saw:
A Mexican visiting Newport Beach and his girlfriend were ambushed a few meters from the beach. They beat him to take money and his car. As a result of
the assault, an ambulance had to be called to assist the Mexican- Pedro Gonzales, 33, who moments earlier had been beaten on the head with a metal
crossbar. He was in the only hospital in this town near the beach with his girlfriend named Maria Medina, both are residents of Escondido.
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and, being from a foreign land, they were promptly billed for services rendered, no? just like in mexico?
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DENNIS
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I hope we don't stop seeing these reports of events while they're still happening. That is actually what some people would want, no news reporting as
a means of bolstering tourism.
That is scarey ridiculous.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Many people are more sophisticated than to associate the trouble in Juarez with the entire country. It would be like foreigners passing on a trip to
Disney World because there were riots in the streets of Detroit. I agree to a certain extent that virtually any crime news has some chilling effect.
But I can't see it as a total deal breaker for everyone. |
Maybe many are, but I believe most aren't, they
hear only Mexico, not Juarez or Baja.
I'd be willing to bet, if you took a survey of US citizens asking the question, "do you view Mexico as a source of opportunity or a source of
problems" 99 out of 100 would answer "problems".
I think you give people credit for being smarter than they really are.
BTW, the hits just keep coming:
http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/04/24/20100424-D...
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"Bautista was returning from the inauguration of a fair when her three-vehicle convoy was stopped just after midnight by a truck the attackers
apparently used to block the road."
Talk about dumb. Why would anybody who knows the danger be on those roads at night. Doesn't she know there's a war going on and she's somebody's
enemy?
[Edited on 4-24-2010 by DENNIS]
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"I think you give people credit for being smarter than they really are."
Perhaps the first time in my life someone said that to me.
Just have to wonder how long it will take for the cartels to run out of gunmen?
Is that Calderon's end game?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Just have to wonder how long it will take for the cartels to run out of gunmen?
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It'll be right after the War On Poverty is won.
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Sounds like her security detail needs some additional training in convoy operations, adding a scout vehicle and maybe a new convoy lead vehicle that
can bust through roadblocks.
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Perhaps It's a Stretch, But....
| Quote: | "Bautista was returning from the inauguration of a fair when her three-vehicle convoy was stopped just after midnight by a truck the attackers
apparently used to block the road."
Talk about dumb. Why would anybody who knows the danger be on those roads at night. Doesn't she know there's a war going on and she's somebody's
enemy?
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Somehow, I see the analogy of what just happened to the two guys who do South Park on Comedy Central. The network edited out certain parts of an
episode that purportedly had the prophet Mohammed dressed in a bear costume. The censorship was blamed on a reaction to a US-based website's veiled
threat against the creators of the show, a la what happened to the Dutch filmmaker van Gogh a few years ago. My point is, don't terrorists win when
decent folk cower to their threats?
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DENNIS
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Sounds like her security detail needs some additional training in convoy operations, adding a scout vehicle and maybe a new convoy lead vehicle that
can bust through roadblocks. |
You mean like this?
http://www.nicewallpapers.info/pics/other/m1a1-abrams-tank/m...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Somehow, I see the analogy of what just happened to the two guys who do South Park on Comedy Central.
My point is, don't terrorists win when decent folk cower to their threats? |
Could be, but you don't get in the ring with Mike Tyson just because you disagree with him. Suicide is a useless statement to make.
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Dennis, I like it, but it probably is just a tad too big for what I had in mind...........I was thinking of maybe maybe a Peterbuilt 5 ton dump truck
with 2 tons of gravel in the bed and a V shaped front plow blade.
That should take care of any roadblocks
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Somehow, I see the analogy of what just happened to the two guys who do South Park on Comedy Central.
My point is, don't terrorists win when decent folk cower to their threats? |
Could be, but you don't get in the ring with Mike Tyson just because you disagree with him. Suicide is a useless statement to make.
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But in the US, notwithstanding the fact that certain people in power have seized on a money making opportunity, it just seems to me that people need
to stand up and live their lives. Living in fear of what might happen gives comfort to the terrorists.
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Living in fear of what might happen gives comfort to the terrorists. |
Fear is an element of self preservation. Perhaps she placed her fate too heavily in the hands of God.
Four dead for a bad decision.
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Woooosh
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"a bullet-resistant SUV" ? ouch. 
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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durrelllrobert
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Sounds like her security detail needs some additional training in convoy operations, adding a scout vehicle and maybe a new convoy lead vehicle that
can bust through roadblocks. |
You mean like this?
http://www.nicewallpapers.info/pics/other/m1a1-abrams-tank/m... |
if everyone entering Mexico would just rent 1 of these new Baja bugs there would be no problema
http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh37/durrellrobert/?actio...
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