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David K
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No, rear only... that was the weak part in the larger, second generation Tacoma. The Execs saw that MOST Tacomas don't go off road, and so they gave
it a car like ride. The fronts are coil over shocks/ springs.
There was a TSB (Tech. Service Bulletin) on the rough rear ride and Toyota would have (and will still if under warantee) put the heavy duty or extra
leaf springs on (Access Cab and Double Cab)... I learned about that TSB after I got my 2010 Tacoma (whose springs are better).
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bigzaggin
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Okay, I pulled the trigger...5100's front/rear + Ride Rites. Truck feels GREAT...really solid (of course, I'm talking about city speed bumps, but I
can tell she'll go great down south).
So - David K or whomever - two questions:
1.) How big of a pain is adjusting the lift? I know you can't just do it in your garage w/o some major tools... I certainly don't need a lift for
where I live year round, but if I just wanted to try a Baja run with it, am I just looking at an hour or so at mechanic?
2.) Regarding Ride Rites: Assuming I have a pretty full truck bed (supplies for a 7 day run - ice, beers, ice, beers, etc.), have you found a sweet
spot PSI for inflation or do you just eyeball it?
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DianaT
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Just a plug for KYB shocks and all lifetime guarantees.
The first set we had on the front of our 2003 Tundra lasted about 100,000 miles----trips to Baja, but had not bought the house yet.
Second set lasted 55,000 miles, BUT they honored the lifetime guarantee and we only had to pay for the installation. The washboard out here and the
pot hole heaven road from Vizcaino to the turn off to BA wore out the rubber gasket--- all of sudden the squeak was AWFUL. (not sure where the
gasket was because I know very little about shocks)
So hope do keep all your paper work as it sounds like you are going to own your Tundra as long as we will probably own ours.
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Bob and Susan
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"lifetime guarantees"
"plug for KYB shocks"
bad in 55k
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David K
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DT, it sounds like he already did the change... said truck feels great.
bigzaggin, I not sure if I understand what you are asking... ?
To adjust the lift/ firmness (in back) you just add air!
My simple setup had two fill lines located on each side of the license plate... A very short puff of air will raise the back.
I would say the mimimum/ normal unloaded pressure would be 15 psi... The max is 100, but NEVER go that high, you won't need to and it could damage the
axle.
The most I ever ran was 45 psi and my Tacoma was a couple inches higher, unloaded. With a heavy load the suspension was perfect, never bottomed out...
off road. Most often I ran them at 25-30 psi for most Baja trips
The front 5100's are adjustable, but I never needed to change the front suspension, so I can't tell you how.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
"lifetime guarantees"
"plug for KYB shocks"
bad in 55k |
Of course those lifetime guarantees do not go with the truck if it is sold. They just don't expect anyone to keep a vehicle as long as we keep ours
or drive the horrible roads so often. ----have used a few other lifetime guarantees.
So if they keep coming free of charge, we will keep using them. 
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Bob and Susan
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you're still paying and paying and paying for installation
get a better shock
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
you're still paying and paying and paying for installation
get a better shock |
Only once----- I hope we do not own this for another 55000 miles as it will then be well over 200,000 miles---then again, we could leave it here for
just a Baja truck and we did own the last truck for over 200,000 miles before it was stolen.
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you can't just adjust the 5100's to a higher notch. it will destroy your CV joints due to the extreme angles. maybe up 1 notch ONLY and you'll be
okay. you will need to do a differential drop modification if you go higher than the 2nd notch. do a google search and you will be amazed.....
just leave them as they are and enjoy them.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
sorry woody
i can buy them all day for 5k
the thing you have to look at is...
is it worth the money to invest into an old truck or get a new one
cars are a BAD investment
you are buying a house so DO NOT buy a new one |
I'd like to know where you can buy them for 5k because I've been looking for one and they are all north of 10k around here in
Oregon.
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bigzaggin
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David - the first question was regarding listing the Billsteins (should have made that clear), but Woody chimed in with the answer I was expecting.
I kind of just wanted to TRY a lift just for the helluva it, but doesn't sound worth the effort.
But thanks for the Ride Rite tips. Mine has the same twin valves in the back...eager to try it out (heading to Asuncion area next week).
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Bob and Susan
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"i can buy them all day for 5k"
or less
used car auction in the inland empire
just looked at one at a dealer for 6k
what do you think he paid
2.5k?
people "give" them to car dealers in trades
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woody with a view
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bigzaggin
David - the first question was regarding listing the Billsteins (should have made that clear), but Woody chimed in with the answer I was expecting.
I kind of just wanted to TRY a lift just for the helluva it, but doesn't sound worth the effort.
But thanks for the Ride Rite tips. Mine has the same twin valves in the back...eager to try it out (heading to Asuncion area next week).
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while fully loaded my air bags have stopped the bottom out problems. when you get camp set up you should let the pressure down to about 15 pounds
(with no cargo) or the ride will be horrendous. just air up when your ready to go home. even a foot pump can easily pump 50-60 pounds pretty fast. you
should have a quick compressor for your tires, tho!
mo' bettah, brah!
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Bajamatic
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bigzaggin. nice tent.
yuletide
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David K
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Okay, sounds good... You will enjoy the Ride Rites... adjust your ride with air.
Toyota put better springs on the '10 and it never bottoms. The Santa Maria run was a great test... We had two ice chests in the back, and lots of
bumps.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Toyota put better springs on the '10 and it never bottoms. The Santa Maria run was a great test... We had two ice chests in the back, and lots of
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DK you need to come down to chase Paul on a race or pre-run, that will load your truck. In the bed I carry two tool boxes, one with tools and one with
various bike hardware, a box with oil and various fluids and misc items like spare bike tubes etc. second spare tire for the truck. I don't have time
to drop the regular spare. A bottle jack with wood lift pieces. Spare front and rear wheels for bike. High lift jack. two thirty foot tow straps and
one short strap. Some times an EZ up. Sometimes a portable winch with connectors etc. Depending maybe a pre-run bike. 5 gallons water. Two 5 gallon
gas cans and one large ice chest that doubles as a bike stand. Min two lawn chairs.
In the back seat I have a fire ext. Coleman jump start battery unit. My coffee pot box with plates silverware stuff, Coleman burner and can of fuel
and other misc. stuff like JB Quick Weld. Three race radios in one case. Radios maybe out depending on what I'm doing and going. Jackets and food.
If not staying in a hotel I have my cots and sleeping bags with me.
[Edited on 6-12-2010 by TW]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
"lifetime guarantees"
"plug for KYB shocks"
bad in 55k |
Of course those lifetime guarantees do not go with the truck if it is sold. They just don't expect anyone to keep a vehicle as long as we keep ours
or drive the horrible roads so often. ----have used a few other lifetime guarantees.
So if they keep coming free of charge, we will keep using them.
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Now that sounds like a good selling point... will check them out.. Thanks... 
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what type
| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Toyota put better springs on the '10 and it never bottoms. The Santa Maria run was a great test... We had two ice chests in the back, and lots of
bumps. |
DK you need to come down to chase Paul on a race or pre-run, that will load your truck. In the bed I carry two tool boxes, one with tools and one with
various bike hardware, a box with oil and various fluids and misc items like spare bike tubes etc. second spare tire for the truck. I don't have time
to drop the regular spare. A bottle jack with wood lift pieces. Spare front and rear wheels for bike. High lift jack. two thirty foot tow straps and
one short strap. Some times an EZ up. Sometimes a portable winch with connectors etc. Depending maybe a pre-run bike. 5 gallons water. Two 5 gallon
gas cans and one large ice chest that doubles as a bike stand. Min two lawn chairs.
In the back seat I have a fire ext. Coleman jump start battery unit. My coffee pot box with plates silverware stuff, Coleman burner and can of fuel
and other misc. stuff like JB Quick Weld. Three race radios in one case. Radios maybe out depending on what I'm doing and going. Jackets and food.
If not staying in a hotel I have my cots and sleeping bags with me.
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Have just started looking... nothing as hard as you guy's put on them ... will be on the "pavement" most all the time..
What you running on?.... plus I'm really cheap.. really
Thanks
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Ride Rites
I have airbags front and rear on a '06 F350. Originally had one air valve front and one rear. Can't think of a situation where one bag would be
filled with more or less air -- only the same pressure -- so one valve for 2 bags saves time. Ran it this way for a month and decided to go with
an onboard air compressor and air gauge inside the cab -- a flip of a switch fills the front or rear, or deflates. I like the convenience over
doing it manually.
I keep the bags at about 10-15psi, generally. The bags lose about 5psi (normal) a month.
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David K
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I think I read somewhere that if they weren't on seperate fill lines, the pressure could change as you made sharp turns (if they were connected
together).
I am not sure I buy that answer... but the Ride Rite kit had two lines and two fill valves for the two bags.
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